My hard drive was partitioned improperly, and I had run out of storage room
for both regular files and system update files. To solve this, I used the
GParted tool to eliminate all partitions except for the boot, which I then
expanded over the entire hard drive. Unfortunately, I now have to
I was probably expecting too much for this virtualization approach to work on
my laptop (Core 2 Duo Macbook 2,1 with only 1GB of RAM). I tried the 'Try
Trisquel Without Installing' option from the ISO and it did try to boot up in
Qemu, but it was unusably slow.
Is it possible to boot up
Hm, I think I'll try to mainly stick to applications that are obtainable
through repo or package manager for now :) thanks though!
You are using the alpha version, which is called alpha for a reason: contains
more bugs than the average release version, so cant be called as "release".
Maybe you haven't encountered the bugs, but that could be because of your
specific software/hardware configuration, or maybe just a light
So when I click on SMPlayer YouTube Browser to install it through the
repository, the cursor turns into this loading wheel and spins and spins and
spins etc :)
So I dud all the steps over again and after the terminal had worked long and
hard at the "sudo apt upgrade" command it showed this thing as attached
screenshot, what does this actually mean and what do you recommend here?
Whether you use a viewer on just download the video you are still supporting
the platform, there is no function difference between the two approaches.
Youtube is part of the one ring of Google, which is why it is bad. There is
also javascript issues with it and they sell your information
Your question about the grub config file was unrelated to youtube-viewer.
hehe, but I still have no idea what youtube-viewer is.. :P
Oh yeah, I can see why this is getting confusing when I'm jumping from thread
to thread like this.
I was referring to your guidance in installing the youtube-viewer where you
mention in this comment:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/custom-building-and-water-cooling-free-world#comment-125063
It's supposed to be a GUI thingy where you can search, browse, download and
stream youtube videos according to mason.
But I am struggling to get the streaming part going. But I was able to
download a video and play it in VLC, so I got that goin' for me, which is
nice :)
"Regarding init systems, the current setup with systemd on Debian is exactly
the same as its previous setup with SysV-init, or Guix's setup with GNU
Shepherd, or Ubuntu 14.04's setup with Upstart, just to name a few. No distro
goes to lengths to give options for different init systems in a
Yes, I have done that. I also tried smplayer and that didn't work for
streaming either. Actually, when I try to stream, some sort of error flashes
past on the input line, but it's so quick I can't read it. Is there some way
I can output that, or does it get logged somewhere?
Hmm, I got "E: Unable to loacte package" when I tried installing it through
LXTerminal
On the rare occasion I need to view a video on Youtube I simply fire up
IceCat, use DownThemAll to download the video, and then play it in VLC.
I also would like to note that the reason Hyperbola has rejected systemd
is the one related to "init freedom' (as they call it), the post in
which Hyperbola shows various issues with systemd is actually outdated,
but Hyperbola doesn't feel the need to update it currently. There are
some issues in
So I was asking for a recommendation in regards to get the youtube-viewer up
and running :)
The message is saying that you have a manually modified grub configuration
file. In the past you made a change, you added something probably. Now the
new version of the package associated with such configuration file is asking
you if you want it to overwrite the file you modified or keep it.
"Debian was actually the last major GNU/Linux distribution to adopt a modern
init system by default. There has to be a default. And it is a lot of work to
maintain init scripts or several init systems, especially sysvinit's horrible
Shell scripts.
Debian's technical committee *decided*
If I recall correctly, while SMPlayer is free software, the SMTube plugin
that allows it to stream from YouTube is not, so it is disabled in Trisquel.
I had a Replicant question recently. The IRC was dead except for some weird
racist spam, but the mailing list got back to me in a couple days, so you
could try that in the future.
Can I ask how you get those nice yellow boxes for in your comments that you
use to highlight terminal commands?
It could be that you're using Python 2 and mps-youtube expects 3. Install
Python 3
$ sudo apt install python3
and try again.
>sudo pip3 install mps-youtube
giving sudo is absolutely not necessary. Recent versions of of pip without
sudo will just rightly assume we want to do a local installation, which
requires us giving no root privileges to nothing.. files will get written in
.local. A .bashrc line to include
>if I need unfree software to stream from youtube, I'll just drop it
But you don't. :)
Streaming any yt link is as simple as opening your terminal and typing:
mpv 'url'
Hmm, that didn't seem to work for various reasons.
I tried mpv *insert url to youtube video here*
to which I got "bash: mpv: command not found".
Then I tried to substitute mpv for VLC which then opened VLC with two
separate windows warning about youtube being an unknown source etc etc with
To clarify, 'apt update' updates the repository to see if upgrades are
available. 'apt upgrade' installs any available upgrades.
In the comment you refer to, I suggested running both commands because you
had already installed youtube-viewer and I wasn't sure if it was the latest
version.
"One thing I like about systemd though is that it displays the entire
known jornal/log in one command and also tries to stop software
developers from resorting to dirty practices such as changing an
already-written line of the the journal/log."
Well first, thank you for not criticizing me for my
It is in the repo.$ sudo apt install mps-youtube
It has a cli. Start it with$ mpsytset its video player to vlc with> set
player vlcsearch for 'query' with> .queryand play the nth result with> n
Okay, assuming you typed it correctly it might only be in the Trisquel 8
repo. You might have to install it via pip as suggested, but it really isn't
too hard.
$ sudo apt install python3-pip
$ sudo pip3 install mps-youtube
Then follow the instructions in my previous comment starting with$
[code]this is code[/code]
Change '[' and ']' to '' and you get
this is code
awesome! :D
That's a great tip, but I am trying to not be supportive to the concept of
youtube, while still watch films in their storage.
I am not sure why, but I think Richard Stallman warns against youtube.
I see:)
> Unfortunately, I now have to “press S to skip mounting” during startup.
I don't understand this part. Surely you have to mount your single partition
during boot, otherwise how can you boot anything?
Also, you say that you expanded the boot partition to fill the whole hard
disk. In that
I am using it and it works. Ergo, it 'exists'. I did not state in which form
it exists.
Oh well, but if I need unfree software to stream from youtube, I'll just drop
it.
awesome, it worked all the way till I was typing 1 and enter to play the
first video.
Screenshot of the last bit of the terminal output
> Maybe there is even a market for this.
My macOS-used musician friends have been trained by Wirth's law to think that
they always need the most recent hardware. It would be much easier to
convince them to use a Corebooted and ME-cleaned laptop less than a few years
old than to explain to
I see, thanks.
If you still want to try to get youtube-viewer working, run it from a
terminal$ gtk-youtube-viewerattempt to play a video, and copy/paste any
errors you get here.
Did you already set mps-youtube's default player to mpv with> set player mpv?
If so, try a different player. When I tried mpv I only got audio, no video. I
then tried vlc which worked.
One thing I like about systemd though is that it displays the entire
known jornal/log in one command and also tries to stop software
developers from resorting to dirty practices such as changing an
already-written line of the the journal/log.
2017-12-28T04:51:43+0100 calmst...@posteo.de wrote:
>
Gotcha!
I typed that and got this (see screenshot)
It is indeed not clear. What is the content your /etc/fstab? Haven't you
forgotten to recreate in /home the home folders of the users?, to make them
(e.g., with 'sudo chown') the owners of their respective home folders? Can
you open your encrypted home folder from a live system following
So I did that and tried to run youtube-viewer from terminal again, and it
didn't work :/
I dunno about that being true, if someone wants to maintain it why is that a
problem?
It is not "someone" but all developers maintaining packages of services
started at init.
it has to do with the same reason on a larger scale of why people hate
pulseaudio.
What reason? Some
Try avideo its like youtube-dl only deblobbed.
Okay this I will say I have no idea of what your talking about due to my
inexperience... I will admit you may know more about pulseaudio...
So, basically, your "same reason on a larger scale of why people hate
pulseaudio" was bullshit.
Yes I meant, does it really make sense to make all
Mindlessly? I show you facts contradicting what you say. You make grave
accusations and cannot provide any evidence corroborating them. Who is
mindless? Who is hostile?
This video is so true.
Hm. Perhaps this package is not in the Trisquel 7 repo. I don't know if
that's the problem because I don't know what the package does. Let's remove
that one from the list of packages we are installing and see if we can
install everything else.
$ sudo apt install liblwp-protocol-https-perl
I think you forgot to attach the screenshot.
Okay, that means you already had Python 3 installed.
Try switching to a different player with > set player name-of-the-player
Repeat until one of them works or you've tried all of the players you have
installed. I'm running out of ideas.
Well first, thank you for not criticizing me for my disagreements
Groundless accusations are not "disagreements".
Pointless dependencies do nothing to help the cause of free software after
all.
What dependencies are pointless? Please, be serious: show us a changelog (or
a commit) that
What reason? Some applications had some issues in the early days of
PulseAudio. Nowadays, it works great imho. Do you remember the days of OSS
and/or ALSA and/or aRts and/or EsounD and/or... It was a mess.
Okay this I will say I have no idea of what your talking about due to my
Well the "systemd haters" as you put it, they do have the part right about
people like you defending it mindlessly no matter what anyone says or does.
Even if you were right about systemd, that doesn't change the fact that
systemd is supported by hostile developers, admins and people in
Yeah, I give up, this is going nowhere. I cannot change your mind...
You can say your right if you wish, Don't get me wrong, it would be
pointless, but what are you fighting for I guess is what I wonder...
This is like religion or politics, it never bloody ends until one person is
the
I think fsf should be more open as well.
oops
Sorry, I'm running out of ideas. I've had no problems with youtube-viewer in
Trisquel 8 and never used it in Trisquel 7.
For now, you could just use gtk-youtube-viewer for searching, right click on
the video you want to play, select 'more details', copy the URL and paste it
into vlc.
The answers you seek regarding problems with systemd or redhat will not be
found on the Trisquel forums. As a forum veteran you will surely realize the
demographics of this forum, and it is also quite obvious the person you are
asking to reveal obfuscations within systemd init knows not what
Next time someone makes grave accusations, I will ask again for evidences.
Facts matter. I refuse to live in a post-truth world.
I would actually be very interested in discovering obfuscation in systemd's
code. It would mean systemd is not free software and I would not use it! Do
you know if Roy Marples affirms systemd's code is obfuscated?
Well, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscation_(software)
obfuscation is a "deliberate act", thus implying the existence of a more
readable source code. You know: like JavaScript vs. minified JavaScript.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html (the free software
Yep, we have a better chance of Donald Trump getting struck by lightning and
microsoft becoming like the gnu organization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNUGjFzenq4
Openrc sysvinit and systemd weren't all the options that they should have
chose from. Upstart and Runit could have easily have been picked as well.
Upstart was the main contender. I wrote that. Runit was not among the
options the Debian technical committe considered. If you would click on
See post #70
This is stressing us both out, let's just forget this pointless argument.
Neither of us will win. Even if you don't agree, I'm done for today. Maybe
longer...
PS though, next time this comes up if ever, don't flame the person just
ignore them.
Systemd is undoubtedly free software. Obfuscation is subjective, and is
entirely dependent upon the user who is reviewing the code. I cannot speak
for Roy Marples, but I think he would be a great person to contact due to his
experience in init systems. I greatly admire OpenRC's code.
Did that and got this (see screenshot)
than I tried again to search and play.
And it opened in VLC after I gave it permission, but it was only audio :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNUGjFzenq4
That video would be hilarious both in its form (anonymous-like voice speaking
on images of Poettering in flames!) and its content (sysvinit does not need a
replacement and systemd is a conspiracy!)... if only people would not
actually blindly believe such bullshit.
Try avideo that's a better method to do this.
I installed PureOS as a virtual machine the same day the FSF announced its
endorsement. Honestly, I like it a lot. I've always been a fan of Gnome and
personally can't stand the MATE desktop environment that Trisquel 8 is using.
I got rid of that and switched it to Gnome right away.
I took
calmst...@posteo.de wrote:
Well, this is a rare moment where free software is broken by design.
It's not clear what you mean by that. It's also not clear how either
systemd or pulseaudio (both free software) are examples of whatever point
you were raising there.
Whatever your problem with
Great.
You do realize the post numbers can change, right? And that mailing list
users don't even see post numbers at all?
Your post doesn't do anything to address or refute the claims that Mason
made. Purism have a track record of being misleading when it comes to
marketing their hardware and their misguided efforts are damaging to the free
software movement.
Free computing with modern hardware isn't going to
great...@riseup.net wrote:
But you don't. :)
Streaming any yt link is as simple as opening your terminal and typing:
mpv 'url'
Does mpv execute nonfree JS to get YouTube videos?
It would be possible for any program that downloads YouTube-hosted videos
to do precisely what youtube-dl does.
Yes - I have done so on my Macbook. I made a post providing some of the
details of it here. It wasn't completely smooth, but you might find it goes
more smoothly now some more package have been fixed. Good luck! :-)
I like your detailed argumentation. Kepp up the good work! It's always a
reason to fire up my browser when there's an MBanana message waiting to be
read.
I wonder if it's just a self-amplifying echo chamber. Somebody, they've
forgotten who or why, decided he doesn't like Poettering, so
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