Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread taiji_tao
They might mean the program is not in the repositories for Debian or Ubuntu. You can download and compile or run the prepackages version, but there are no .deb versions etc... Only trying mind read, but thats my guess. I think Fedora has it in their yum package manager or as a .rpm, so

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread blade . vp2020
hi nao I test the sors the error in line 1006 in file SDCC.y // werror(W_PTR_TYPE_INVALID); it would be werror(W_PTR_TYPE_INVALID);

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
if you want to install the package its apt-get install the command i posted downloads the .deb file so you could use that in debian with dpkg -i icecat.deb

Re: [Trisquel-users] can you turn the lenovo thinkpad x200 into fsf Libreboot X200?

2015-01-30 Thread tempaccount325
See http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-installation-service/ . They also mention installing an Atheros wireless NIC.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 and two floppy drives: 2-1/2 and 5-1/4

2015-01-30 Thread amenex
My DisplayWrite 3 disks came to me about 1985 with a PCXT; they're definitely 360KB. They're double-sided; I never had a PC with the higher-capacity drives that I can remember. There's so little memory on a PCXT that I cannot imagine a Trisquel installation running on one. If there is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread onpon4
You do know that a server is just a program running on a computer, right? If you've ever played Freeciv, that uses a server-client model; any time you start even a single-player game, a server is started for the client to connect to locally. The only real limiting factors in hosting a server

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread taiji_tao
ESR is great for programs that want stability over latest and greatest, similar to LTS with Ubuntu, or stable with Debian, LTS with Trisquel etc... Schools, businesses etc..., are better served with ESR, also think ESR is a better choice for Trisquel so Ruben does not have to spend so much

[Trisquel-users] can you turn the lenovo thinkpad x200 into fsf Libreboot X200?

2015-01-30 Thread svhaab
https://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom Can you verify, you can only turn a standard lenovo thinkpad x200 with a p cpu into a libreboot x200 if you have appropriate hardware to execute a flash on a chip on the mainboard?

Re: [Trisquel-users] installing libreboot on a x60 thinkpad

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
i think you misunderstood my question i am already running trisquel 7 what i am trying to do is install libreboot a libre bios: http://libreboot.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom friendly wifi router

2015-01-30 Thread tegskywalker
If the router can be flashed with free firmware and works with LibreCMC's libre kernel, embedded software, and web interface, then what is the problem as long as it all plays nice and the hardware?

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread blade . vp2020
you need install Bison if dont work install old bison

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom friendly wifi router

2015-01-30 Thread tegskywalker
Either way, Think Penguin sells you a router that respects your freedom; that router probably doesn't. According to http://librecmc.org/librecmc/wiki?name=TL-WR841ND, the WR841ND DOES respect your freedom when using the LibreCMC firmware and is a fraction of the cost of the Think Penguin

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom friendly wifi router

2015-01-30 Thread onpon4
I'm just repeating what Chris said back when Think Penguin's router was actually based on this one (a couple months ago, I think). I don't see anything on that page even remotely resembling a promise that the router you linked to respects your freedom. It just says that LibreCMC works on two

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
there are deb versions: sudo apt-get download icecat

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom friendly wifi router

2015-01-30 Thread onpon4
Are you even reading my posts? I never said it wasn't OK, I said that not all of them are OK. It's OK if you do get the right version. That's why Think Penguin used to base its router on the one that respects your freedom. This is not all that complex.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread shiretoko
I know what a server is ;) I assumed that you have to install those apps on a running _webserver_ and that's what i didn't want to do if i can avoid it. And yeah, i was mainly thinking about speed and connectivity.. i just checked my upload and it's about 800 kbit/sec, so the resulting video

Re: [Trisquel-users] Claws-Mail setup

2015-01-30 Thread taiji_tao
+1 for you...Perhaps in 20 years people will only say GNU and wonder what Linux is/was...LOL. This would be especially true if GNU/Hurd is ever universally adopted.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread taiji_tao
For Debian? If you search their repository you get: You have searched for packages that names contain icecat in suite(s) stable, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results and the same for testing. Isn't the command, apt-get install..., unless you meant

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
i did install bison with sudo apt-get install bison and it didnt give a error that the version of bison was wrong

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 and two floppy drives: 2-1/2 and 5-1/4

2015-01-30 Thread tempaccount325
I still had one running last year. What a nightmare had to use printer buffers so the computer would not freeze. Not to mention paper costs. It came on a single sheet, 500 pages(A5) long perforated on both sides and it still managed to jam. Hey, any luck with formatting/opening/writing ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread marioxcc . MT
It would be nice if Ruben's IceCat versions are pushed upstream into Debian/Ubuntu as well all users will benefit from this alternative browser. IceCat is free software so Debian and Ubuntu can use it already if they want. I don't know what you mean by “pushing” in this context (I know what

Re: [Trisquel-users] rmdir unable to remove directory than is 0wned by me and has me as group

2015-01-30 Thread tempaccount325
It depends on the parent directory, in this case it is /usr/share . If this parent directory does not give you write permission, you won't be able to remove/edit/create files within this directory. When you want to write outside of the /home/$USER/ directory with one of the Desktop users it

[Trisquel-users] rmdir unable to remove directory than is 0wned by me and has me as group

2015-01-30 Thread cromozon
rmdir unable to remove directory than is 0wned by me and has me as group it might just be some finer details that I misses about the filesystem... could you please fill me in :) I did sudo mkdir /usr/share/test sudo chown christian:christian /usr/share/test rmdir /usr/share/test rmdir:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 and two floppy drives: 2-1/2 and 5-1/4

2015-01-30 Thread amenex
I tried replacing the first floppy drive with another spare, and I still get this with dmesg | tail: end_request: I/O error dev fd0, sector 0 Trisquel calls this floppy drive a 1.44M device also ... I'm out-voted. Same result with a different floppy disk, ca. 1992. The drive spins up as

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweaks to optimize user friendliness

2015-01-30 Thread noordinaryspider
HuangLao, did you actually get JWM to work on Belenos? I tried and tried on Toutatis and finally gave up and decided that Flux would have to be good enough. I will be so grateful to you if you did and can give me any tips as far as workarounds to make it look like Damn Small Linux did circa

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweaks to optimize user friendliness

2015-01-30 Thread taiji_tao
thank you Super! Jaded, don't forget JWM (Joes window Manager) or just Openbox with tint2. I have some good configs for both if interested.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweaks to optimize user friendliness

2015-01-30 Thread cromozon
I actually switched to that wallpaper now, it is quite nice :)

[Trisquel-users] Re : Free games with copyrighted characters

2015-01-30 Thread calinou
We ought to find better business models than selling copies of digital works.

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread blade . vp2020
In fact, the program contains thousands of errors Errors in the writing of the names and a lot of mistakes I Surprised that the programmer did not notice its

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
the compiler was complaining that it needed a program called lex a program called flex seems to be the same thing so i installed the program flex with sudo apt-get install flex and it solved that problem but now when it tries to compile it gives lots of undefined references gcc -o

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel

2015-01-30 Thread mail
Sorry, forgot to mention that.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Kernel

2015-01-30 Thread calinou
The book is not free culture (CC BY-NC-SA 2.5) by the way.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel

2015-01-30 Thread davidvargas1
and who cares if is not FREE CULTURE, at least is information that will teach you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread tempaccount325
Yeah, that sounds about right. Either libraries missing or flags not included in the compile command. It could be other things, like bad includes and other pre-processor tasks, but less likely and harder to fix, if you are not familiar with the code and there are some bad practices in the

Re: [Trisquel-users] rmdir unable to remove directory than is 0wned by me and has me as group

2015-01-30 Thread davesamcdxv
Try rm -r --interactive=never [directory name].

Re: [Trisquel-users] Claws-Mail setup

2015-01-30 Thread davesamcdxv
This would be especially true if GNU/Hurd is ever universally adopted. I always like to think that it won't happen before Nigel Mansell takes another title (considering how good Linux is, is my opinion), but I guess that's just me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread davesamcdxv
Firefox Hello? Just give her a link and surely Safari should work decently with it, no?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Abrowser get phased out by IceCat eventually?

2015-01-30 Thread tegskywalker
This is where I don't understand the ESR release. In order to get security updates, someone has to go through the effort to download and install the newer ESR release. How is this any different than getting the latest Firefox?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free games with copyrighted characters

2015-01-30 Thread tegskywalker
Or work in a factory or do construction.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweaks to optimize user friendliness

2015-01-30 Thread davesamcdxv
My idea of minimalism would be Docky/Cairo-dock/tint2 with synapse :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweaks to optimize user friendliness

2015-01-30 Thread mail
I'd be interested to see your configs. There isn't anything much better than spending a weekend getting the perfect setup, right? :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread gnuser
Forgot to put the website: http://www.linphone.org/ Also, don't forget to go to media encryption and choose ZRTP. You don't want them to hear what you say! (again, japanese chicks... kinky stuff... you don't what them to hear you!!!)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread gnuser
Hello. Having had the same problems, I would suggest Linphone. Is free software and it works very well in android, mac, linux, windows whatever. Good luck with that japanese chick, I hear they are into kinky stuff ;-D good luck my friend. If you need help with linphone (which you probably

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread shiretoko
Thanks, but i would have to set up my own vmux server, right? I don't have the hardware and time to setup my own server at the moment, sadly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread shiretoko
Good luck with that japanese chick, I hear they are into kinky stuff :D Thanks, i will try it out!! But it's only voice, right?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread shiretoko
@both of you thanks a lot, i will resort to mumble once every video option out there failed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread shiretoko
Oh, subrosa looks really interesting... though i fear the same problems as with webrtc, i will try it! Are all xmpp server fast enough to do voice and video?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 and two floppy drives: 2-1/2 and 5-1/4

2015-01-30 Thread amenex
About Trisquel's view of the floppy: The OS says 1.44MB, but it's really 360KB. I'll go find another 5-1/4 inch floppy drive, just in case this one's defective or just plain tired. Almost all the floppies I've saved have data on them, but there must be blanks somewhere in the various totes.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Call to Japan - I need your help!!

2015-01-30 Thread shiretoko
She'll open the mail and just follow the instructions - everybody can do that as long as he/she knows how to read hmm sound easy in theory ;) i hope she'll get it done. But first i have to look for a working solution and maximize my chances of succeeding fast by choosing the best programs...

[Trisquel-users] installing libreboot on a x60 thinkpad

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
i have purchased a old x60 thinkpad computer from ebay with the intent to flash libreboot on it so it will become a fully libre computer how risky is this? what are the chances of bricking the device? if anyone of this forum has done this have easy was it? | | | also while i am posting this if

Re: [Trisquel-users] problems compiling from source

2015-01-30 Thread maestro
tomlukey- my knowledge of gnu is very very basic. I'm a newb, so I cannot certainly help you with this - I just wanted to say that your project is good and that you should persist until you make it! cheers bro

Re: [Trisquel-users] installing libreboot on a x60 thinkpad

2015-01-30 Thread dooleyn
Check out these guides provided by the libreboot devs if you haven't already. They are very well written and there exists documentation to rescue a bricked machine. I believe future libreboot releases will support Guix and ProteanOs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 and two floppy drives: 2-1/2 and 5-1/4

2015-01-30 Thread tempaccount325
Here's a nice size to capacity table with the year they were introduced in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk#Sizes.2C_performance_and_capacity 1.44MB sounds more likely. I was handed a few dozens of these, when I replaced a point of sale computer at an Hotel. Those make for nice cup

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweaks to optimize user friendliness

2015-01-30 Thread maestro
Yes I really like this waalpaper. Here you have it if you want to use it on your desktop!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Claws-Mail setup

2015-01-30 Thread maestro
I started to refer to gnu/linux using the word gnu ! It is 90% correct, it's just 3 letters so lazy typists are well suited, and it seems fair to exclude a little the kernel - open source world has been ignoring gnu for 20 years so it seems right to me to return the favor!

Re: [Trisquel-users] installing libreboot on a x60 thinkpad

2015-01-30 Thread amenex
Just a note of experience from this long-time (three weeks) Trisquel user: Make a bootable flash drive (I used an 8GB one) and load Trisquel's iso with the nice usb-flashdrive installer. Add as many applications with the software installer as you like, being sure to check how much free space

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help putting a bash script on a wiki page.

2015-01-30 Thread franparpe
Yes, it works! Now anyone can download the script without major problems. Thanl you.

[Trisquel-users] gnome settings

2015-01-30 Thread mtsio
Hello everyone, After doing an update some things aren't working as before. Gnome settings are not saved every time I change something.If I go to system settings and change anything, close it and open it again the settings are lost. I deleted gnome2 and gconf folders and rebooted but no

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel siging key not known to pbuilder

2015-01-30 Thread tobias
I tried to create a pbuilder environment for Trisquel 7, but I got an error message sudo pbuilder create --distribution toutatis W: /home/USERNAME/.pbuilderrc does not exist I: Distribution is toutatis. I: Current time: Fri Jan 30 10:32:30 CET 2015 I: pbuilder-time-stamp: 1422610350 I:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel

2015-01-30 Thread mail
A good book I started about a week ago was Linux from Scratch (Ahem, publisher, don't you mean GNU/Linux from Scratch? :p)- it goes into detail about how the kernel works, how GNU/Linux boots, and the basics of using it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What happen to hardware?

2015-01-30 Thread golyn
I've just found this... https://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome settings

2015-01-30 Thread mtsio
there isn't a folder like .gnome3.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom friendly wifi router

2015-01-30 Thread tempaccount325
I have a TL-WR841N v8.4 at work (it's one of those that looks like a melted heap of plastic). It has a physical wifi switch near the ethernet ports. I am not sure if this particular model is compatible with libreCMC. You can check the hardware specifications of some of the versions on the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help putting a bash script on a wiki page.

2015-01-30 Thread tomlukeywood
thanks for the manual! i will find this very usefull but dose anyone know if the unity spyware was removed in the trisquel unity package?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help putting a bash script on a wiki page.

2015-01-30 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I suppose it was but let's see... * If you're running Toutatis the spying is not a problem because it was introduced in a later corresponding ubuntu version. * If you're running Belenos, what is your output ofgsettings list-recursively | grep scope This page lists (some of?) the nasty

Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome settings

2015-01-30 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
After doing an update some things aren't working as before. That's what updates are for, eh? :) I deleted gnome2 Trisquel uses gnome 3.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom friendly wifi router

2015-01-30 Thread gromobir
Thanks a lot for suggestions. Do your suggested routers have a hardware switch to turn wifi on and off?