Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
What is that bar on the bottom?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
Yo!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
I don't see a particular problem here. It's not typical for people to browse PyPI for new software to install; rather, it's used as a centralized way to handle installing Python packages (usually libraries) in an easy way. Any recommendation for proprietary software would come either from the developer of such a proprietary program, or a program that depends on such a proprietary program. I'm not sure if pip is capable of browsing PyPI, but it's not a typical use case.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
Yes, I forgot that this package repository is hosted on python.org, and it really is a problem. I thought it was hosted by someone else. I don't think the fact that some software in PyPI is proprietary is a danger of Python, specifically. Proprietary libraries exist for C, too. The problem isn't that non-free Python libraries exist, like with C, but that they are hosted and maintained on python.org. People who like Python may also think it's a good idea to install those non-free libraries. It's similar to the Debian problem - although Python doesn't install non-free software by default, they are still distributing it and in a way recommending it. Maybe I should look more into GNU Guile. :)
[Trisquel-users] Switch user on lock screen missing
I recently replaced Ubuntu on my families shared computer with Trisquel, and everything is great except there is no option to switch users from the lock screen. After searching the forum, all I can find is one post mentioning that this feature is in fact missing, but no reason why, or a way to add it back. I really like this distro so far, and would hate to have to switch because of something so trivial, but on a computer shared by six people this may be a dealbreaker. So hopefully I am just missing something, and there is an easy fix.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Few problems in Trisquel 7
Thank you for the answer! While I've managed to partition the HDD as I want during the pre-installation of Trisquel I still cannot write in Bulgarian. I've chosen English for both the system and writhing. In the freshly installed OS I tried to add BG language support. All I get is BG translation after restart. I've opted out the IBus. In Region and Language section input devices/methods I have both EN-US and BG (in that order) and in System the setting are as follows: Your settings Menus: BG Input: EN-US, BG Format: BG System settings Menus: EN (US) Input: EN-US Format: BG So during the installation I chose BG format. Maybe thats the problem. However, I guess that the input languages are OK but for whatever reason I cannot switch them. Is the possible and how to add input language applet in the GNOME Panel (Flashback) in Trisquel 7 or not?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
I don't think the fact that some software in PyPI is proprietary is a danger of Python, specifically. Proprietary libraries exist for C, too. No matter what language you use, as a developer, you have to check the licenses of all libraries you use, not only to protect yourself, but also to protect your users.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New install for new Trisquel user
That makes sense. :) When I what to accept only localhost connections on my HTTP port, I prefer to configure nginx instead of iptables. I set nginx to listen only to localhost.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
What version of XFCE is that, and is that a custom icon theme? I'm drooling. ;-)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Few problems in Trisquel 7
The problem isn't with the Bulgarian localization or anything like that, but only with switching of keyboard layouts. In fact, I installed Trisquel 7 mini with a Bulgarian layout several weeks ago, and I use Trisquel 7 (non-mini) with a Bulgarian layout on my computer. :) We already had a discussion about this issue here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-7-keyboard-indicator#comment-55540 * Trisquel 7 (default) On my computer, I wasn't able to do set it properly no matter what I tried. The system settings for layouts and the setting for a layout switching shortcuts didn't do anything. Ultimately I dealt with all the issues by installing GNOME Shell. But in the default installation, you can use 'ibus-setup' (from a terminal) to set a layout switch keys and to add a layout applet on the panel. But the layout applet doesn't show the current layout, just a keyboard icon. Also, the 'ibus-setup' program has a very awkward interface. The reason for all those problems is that when GNOME officially switched to GNOME Shell, the older stuff were badly maintained. Maybe things are better in newer version. * Trisquel 7 mini Trisquel mini has similar issues. I wasn't able to set a shortcut key for switching the layout, but at least the switcher did show the current layout. Maybe 'ibus-setup' could work for setting a keyboard switch shortcut, but I forgot how to work with the awkward interface. The person who is using the computer didn't care about using a shortcut key, so I left it like this. * Installing GNOME Shell You can install GNOME Shell with: sudo aptitude -R install gnome-shell At first I had problems with logging in the GNOME session, so I installing GDM. Later I found I had to use System Defaults session rather than GNOME session, otherwise it would only load a blank desktop and a lone mouse cursor. May you don't need GDM, but if you do, you can install it with: sudo aptitude install gdm
Re: [Trisquel-users] Switch user on lock screen missing
One way to fix this is to install GNOME Shell and use that, as it's able to switch users from the locked screen. You can wait for other suggestions, if you prefer to not use GNOME Shell. You can install GNOME Shell with: sudo aptitude -R install gnome-shell At first I had problems with logging in the GNOME session, so I installing GDM. Later I found I had to use System Defaults session rather than GNOME session, otherwise it would only load a blank desktop and a lone mouse cursor. May you don't need GDM, but if you do, you can install it with: sudo aptitude install gdm
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
It's the wallpaper from my old dsl install circa 2003 on JWM and a bunch of old familiar retro software right out of the Trisquel reps. It's got the same look and feel, but it's all libre, modern, and safe.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
You have good taste Mr SuperTramp83 :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Few problems in Trisquel 7
PS: mokavey, if you are from Sofia you may want to come to some of the events I'm doing here. I'm preparing tod do a 3-day course about GNU/Linux in several weeks. It will include how install and use Trisquel (and why). See http://bg.libtec.org/ and you can follow the news there (keeping in mind I'm still preparing the site for the events). :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
onpon4, to me the problem with PyPI is equivalent to the problem with non-free packages in the repositories used by a distribution. I fail to see any difference. In Trisquel repository you can find libraries, application, data, etc. While PyPI is more commonly used for libraries, it is also used to distribute applications and data. Let's say you are an average GNU/Linux user and need a graphical program for doing Z. You search on the web and find one called DOZ In the installation instructions for GNU/Linux users you find: 1. Install python-pip 2. Install DOZ by running the following command: $ sudo pip install doz You follow the instructions on Trisquel, and now DOZ is installed, and listed in your applications list. Since everything worked flawlessly, you assume DOZ is fine, because you just installed it using Trisquel. But what if DOZ is one of those non-free packages available in PyPI, which is the default repository used by pip? Is that different from installing something with apt? In both cases you don't need to browse any repository directly, you just need instructions in a blog telling you how to install the package.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Switch user on lock screen missing
I am actually sure that GDM is needed here... and it may be that GNOME Shell is not (I am not sure because I use it too).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
What GTK theme are you using? 'Tis nice! Aidwata's getting dull. :p
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
The one on the left is a standard xfce panel with application launchers and infomation panel in the middle is a conky script :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
Your example just goes to show the absurdity of comparing PyPI to Trisquel's repo. What you're talking about is a third party, the author of DOZ in your hypothetical example, giving instructions for installing a proprietary program. Surely you've seen proprietary programs being distributed with instructions before, without ever having a need to reference pip! I can easily think of several examples off the top of my head, like Google Chrome (which distributes a deb file as one option, and that's much easier to install than something from PyPI; no need to install any new software). All kinds of reductions to absurdity can result from your argument, but here is the most troubling: if the fact that proprietary software developers can make it super easy to install a proprietary program is a problem, and it's possible for them to do this regardless of whether or not PyPI is there to help them, does it not follow that Trisquel must become a jail which forbids installation and execution of proprietary software? I don't see any problem with PyPI as such. pip is not recommending proprietary software; it's just offering the same convenient way to install proprietary programs as with libre programs. It might be the case that PyPI could put pressure on proprietary software developers by only allowing libre software on it, but that's a matter of strategy, not ethics.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
C comes from a system that was entirely proprietary (UNIX). What's your point? How is PyPI's policy of allowing any software any worse than any other software hosting website, like SourceForge or GitHub? If anything, all of the others are much worse than PyPI, because they have things like proprietary JavaScript requirements.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Switch user on lock screen missing
Not a big fan of gnome-shell or gdm , but I did manage to find another solution. I came across a program called light-locker in the repo that seems to work perfectly. It just takes you back to the lightdm login screen when the screen locks due to timeout or screensaver coming on. If someone intentionally locks the screen from the Lock screen option on the main menu, it will still go to the old lock screen with no option to switch users, but in my case that should not be too big of a problem.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Few problems in Trisquel 7
In Region and Language section input devices/methods I have both EN-US and BG (in that order) Change that order (with the two arrow buttons). The first one is the default layout.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
onpon4, I'm not suggesting that Trisquel or any other free distro must become a jail which forbids installation and execution of proprietary software. That would be horrible. Also, free distros cannot control what's distributed by third-party websites like PyPI. It seems I'm not making myself clear. What I say is that PyPI is a source of packages used by pip, in the same way a repository is a source of packages used by apt. In the latter case, free distros don't allow (by default) their package managers to look for software in repositories that contain non-free packages, so they remove such repositories from sources-list or whatever config file is used by package managers for that. However, users are given the right to add any repository they want to the list of sources, even repositories with non-free packages. Shouldn't this be done as well in the case of pip? Really, I fail to see why not. To me, this is a bug in free distros. Also, no one is saying that Python, Ruby, or Java are bad tools because they are commonly defined as open source. They are perfectly fine free software tools. I'm just pointing out that it is easier to find freedom issues in projects that define themselves as such, so I prefer tools that are started or maintained with freedom in mind. Note that I'm not trolling here, it's a honest question I have.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
I think I made my point clear. Be more specific with your questions, if you want answers.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Java programming
I don't think you did. Unless all you're saying is, Python's developers are open source proponents, so we shouldn't use Python. In that case, you're propagating a destructive and senseless attitude. Destructive because it causes rejection of perfectly good, libre programs like Python, and senseless because there is no benefit to it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New install for new Trisquel user
I have another family member on the LAN with his Losedows7 hardcore game machine. I want to set up a household wiki so we can communicate without having to walk to opposite ends of the house or happen to run into each other with our varied schedules. So I'll want a port that is open to local devices only. When I'm ready I can add an iptables rule to allow that. Do you recommend any documentation for Nginx that's relatively easy to comprehend? I know it has a different process for configuration than apache. I got it working with php capability but configuration was kind of an uphill struggle.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New install for new Trisquel user
I learned by starting from a basic config file and figured things from there.
You should use http://nginx.org/en/docs/ to help you with this. Most things
are explained in http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html.
Your main config file is /etc/nginx/nginx.conf and you don't really need any
other config files except for organizational purposes. Trisquel's nginx
installation comes with several predefined config files and directories in
/etc/nginx - I just remove them all and start from scratch.
When doing changes you can reload nginx with:
sudo nginx -s reload
Here's a very basic config file:
user www-data www-data;
events {
}
http {
default_type application/octet-stream;
autoindex on;
index index.html;
types {
text/html; charset=utf-8 html;
text/css; charset=utf-8 css;
application/javascript; charset=utf-8 js;
application/json; charset=utf-8 json;
image/png png;
image/jpeg jpg jpeg;
image/gif gif;
video/ogg ogv;
}
server {
server_name localhost;
root /srv/geshmy/www;
}
}
Here is what I pretty much use on my server:
user www-data www-data;
events {
}
http {
default_type application/octet-stream;
autoindex on;
index index.txt index.html;
types {
text/html; charset=utf-8 html;
text/css; charset=utf-8 css;
application/javascript; charset=utf-8 js;
application/json; charset=utf-8 json;
image/png png;
image/jpeg jpg jpeg;
image/gif gif;
video/ogg ogv
}
server {
# Lines used only if you want HTTPS:
listen 80;
listen 443 ssl;
server_name libtec.org www.libtec.org;
ssl_certificate /etc/ssl/private/libtec-cert.pem;
ssl_certificate_key /etc/ssl/private/libtec-key.pem;
root /home/mampir/web/libtec/www;
index index.html index.py;
# This is used if you want to work with Python CGI scripts.
# Similar blocks can be used for PHP, Ruby and etc. - see other
# example files on the web:
location ~ /index\.py$ {
include fastcgi_params;
fastcgi_param LANG en_US.UTF-8;
fastcgi_param PYTHONPATH /srv/libtec/lib;
fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/fcgiwrap.socket;
}
# This redirects http/https://www.libtec.org/bg/2013/gnu30/ to
# http/https://bg.libtec.org/2013/gnu30/.
location = /bg/2013/gnu30/ {
return 301 $scheme://bg.libtec.org/2013/gnu30/;
}
}
server {
listen 80;
listen 443 ssl;
server_name bg.libtec.org;
ssl_certificate /etc/ssl/private/libtec-cert.pem;
ssl_certificate_key /etc/ssl/private/libtec-key.pem;
root /home/mmp/web/libtec/bg/www;
# All lines bellow are used for FastCGI:
fastcgi_param REQUEST_URI $request_uri;
fastcgi_param DOCUMENT_URI $document_uri;
fastcgi_param QUERY_STRING $query_string;
fastcgi_param REMOTE_ADDR $remote_addr;
location / {
# Use FastCGI when the requested URL does't lead to a file:
if (!-f $request_filename) {
fastcgi_pass unix:/tmp/fcgi-libtec.socket;
}
}
}
}
Re: [Trisquel-users] New install for new Trisquel user
Wow, that's very helpful Mampir, I will install nginx for sure once I get my screen resolution problem figured out. Don't want to install any more packages in case I decide to start over with a fresh install. Once I get that fixed and install nginx your post will give me a great starting point. Muy cool. ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!
The picture's named dslclone, though, so I doubt that's actually DSL.
