Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
The GIMP and Inkscape are famous but great. Besides them I really like the various viewers of OpenStreetMap, like Marble, openstreetmap-client, emerillon and the editors for the same, like merkaartor.

[Trisquel-users] GNU Rates GitHub & SourceForge With "F" Ratings

2016-04-25 Thread tegskywalker
http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=GNU-Ethical-Code-Host-Ratings GitLab got a C and GNU Savannah got an A as well. They gave Savannah an A probably because its their product even though its inferior to the majority of Git services (GitHub or local GitLab) out there.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
I saw it. Popcorn Time. ;-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
I love "Back in Time", I guess its somewhat famous, but I think its way better than the stock Backup app and easier to use than command-line backup apps.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
KMyMoney looks pretty cool! Thanks!

[Trisquel-users] Bookmark Sync in Icecat or Abrowser

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
Greetings all! Has anyone been able to get bookmark syncing to work in either Abrowser or Icecat with the the latest Trisquel distro? Seems with Abrowser it just hangs on login and with Icecat you need to login everytime you wish to sync. Is anyone else seeing this? Any options on how I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Icons on the bottom panel -- remove?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Hold down the ALT key and right-click on the icon. a tiny menu will pop up where you can choose to move or delete the icon. Many people, myself included, have found this design unnecessarily confusing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Icons on the bottom panel -- remove?

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
Definietly agree. It took me a while to get used to the wierdness of the Panel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-25 Thread nicolasmaia
Everyone is talking about MATE in Trisquel 8, but no one came up with a source for that :P

[Trisquel-users] Icons on the bottom panel -- remove?

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz
Hey all, I've ended up placing app icons on the very bottom of my screen (one on purpose and one accidentally) but I can't figure out how to remove them... when I right-click I get Launch and Properties, with no option to delete/remove... Any thoughts? Thanks. Harris

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:21 PM, lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote: With a "personal firewall" (I am not talking about professional usages), proprietary software users protect themselves from the programs they installed (that can be remotely controlled by their real owners, that can send private

Re: [Trisquel-users] Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:54 PM, great...@riseup.net wrote: *sudo netstat -tulpn | grep LISTEN* will give you the info on which ports are **open and listening** to the netz. You can quietly ignore those listening on the localhost (127.0.0.1) for those are not visible externally. Hey

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is searx search engine free software?

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
Well, it is free software (AGPLv3+), hence hackable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Really looking forward to using Taler. I think they said 2016. Does anybody know of a narrower time frame (i.e. summer, fall, month X, etc...)?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is searx search engine free software?

2016-04-25 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
So far, there are instances provided by La Quadrature du Net, Searx.me, and also from Framasoft (FramaBee.org). So far, Searx is accepted in the Free Software Directory: http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Searx

[Trisquel-users] Re : Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
I started up Trisquel from the CD without installing it. Then I mounted the internal hard drive where I had installed Trisquel on, but the /proc/ folder does not have any content. That is perfectly normal. /proc only provides an interface to access information about the kernel and the

[Trisquel-users] Re : Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
With a "personal firewall" (I am not talking about professional usages), proprietary software users protect themselves from the programs they installed (that can be remotely controlled by their real owners, that can send private information to them, etc.) and from those they have not

[Trisquel-users] Is searx search engine free software?

2016-04-25 Thread calmstorm
Its a search engine one that is claimed to be hackable and free software. I wondered if it really is...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-updates PPA

2016-04-25 Thread calmstorm
I think its a good idea for trisquel 7 but i should caution you, trisquel 8 is coming out in about a month...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread tomlukeywood
Same to you!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread tomlukeywood
Its fine now i solved the problem by installing Debian 8 offline and then i was able to use the usb wifi card so its now running a fully free Debian installation which is fine!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
It is far too easy to escape taxation with Bitcoin and with most crypto-currencies. A good electronic payment system (taxable because anonymous for the sole buyer) is GNU Taller: https://taler.net/governments The only problem is: it does not exist yet!

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel-updates PPA

2016-04-25 Thread megver . 2000
I thought on creating a ppa with all packages in Trisquel that have never updated since 2014 (e.g. LibreOffice, GIMP, Rhythmbox, and others) and a forum in launchpad to discuss there which packages do you want me to upload. of course if you want me to update a package, you have to provide me

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
What I was referring to was the state of the drive before installation. From what you are telling me, it sounds like the drive was brand new with nothing on it. Then the installer formated, installed a file system, etc... Well we did make progress. The live CD has a non-empty /proc

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu
long time no see, cat :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu
On a default Trisquel installation there are very few open listening ports if I remember correctly. *sudo netstat -tulpn | grep LISTEN* will give you the info on which ports are **open and listening** to the netz. You can quietly ignore those listening on the localhost (127.0.0.1) for

[Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread tomlukeywood
I am trying to install Trisquel on a friends net book (1GB RAM 1.6ghz dual core CPU 60GB HDD) on both Trisquel and Trisquel mini the installers both crashed giving no reason other than "the installer has crashed" i have tried the net installer but as both the internal wifi card and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
I started up Trisquel from the CD without installing it. Then I mounted the internal hard drive where I had installed Trisquel on, but the /proc/ folder does not have any content. > Did you format the drive? While the installation I choose the whole drive to be used, so the installer

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
Yes the lsmod.txt was generated by the live system running from the CD.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
"The /proc/ folder on the hard drive is completely empty." That doesn't sound good. Did you format the drive? What file system did you put on it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
This file: lsmod.txt is it from the hard drive install, or the LiveCD? My guess is that it is from the LiveCD, since you can't run commands so easily when you are in the hard drive installation. When you use the LiveCD and mount the hard drive, navigate the hard drive and find the file

Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread cubalibre2398
One can accept Bitcoin in two ways * directly, which involves certain risks (Wikipedia is your friend) * through a service which transfers bitcoins to your local currency, for a fee, which involves other risks (as in "things that happen in a free market economy) Bitcoin is a legal payment

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
Ahh ok, thanks! Ok then I can skip the installation of another kernel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
Your right I had a USB drive attached and unplugged it without unmounting it properly. I executed dmesg again without the USB drive and attached the output again. The last line has disappeared. But there are still these lines: [8.479878] usb 1-5.3: new full-speed USB device number 4

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread danigaritarojas
> Science denialism should be punishable by law like holocaust denialism is in some parts of the world. Take climate change for instance. There's a consensus on that. Would you like me to tell you to just shut the fuck up? Would you? Maybe you will like it better if I just tell you to shut

[Trisquel-users] Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz
Hi all, I’m a new users of Trisquel, and I’d like to give it a thorough tryout — I do like it a lot so far. My question is about firewalls and related security items — I’ve done some research and now I have specific questions. First, I’ve read on the Trisquel forum that gufw (which is a GUI

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
A new thread was created in the troll hole for this. I encourage you to resume the discussion there: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/science-denialism-academic-freedom-and-philosophy-science#comment-94661

[Trisquel-users] Re : Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
The loop mounts virtual filesystems that 'grub-install' requires. If you have already tried a 4.x kernel, I am afraid trying yet another version will not solve the issue. :-S

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
"Skepticism is generally any questioning attitude towards unempirical knowledge or opinions/beliefs stated as facts" from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism I agree with your main point, root_vegetable. Your use of the term "skeptics" in a disparaging way, however, is both

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread strypey
> Science denialism should be punishable by law like holocaust denialism is in some parts of the world. This has done *way* off-topic, and I won't be posting further here. However, I'm genuinely interested in a (respectful) discussion about the philosophy of science, and the boundaries of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
I tried the procedure runner8 mentioned. But sadly nothing changes. Could one of you please explain to me what's the aim behind this? I don't get the idea of this loop. Next I'll test the the same thing but trying to install a newer kernel like Magic Banana said. (I already installed a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Well, the last line of dmesg says it can't mount some removable media. Do you have a USB device attached? The thing is, you are saying the laptop works perfectly when run off the liveCD. Let's compare the modules. Use the LiveCD to access the /proc/modules file that is on the HD and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread dguthrie
> degrading people They are actively spreading pseudo-science, which is harmful both to themselves and the people that they have an influence over. They are degrading the Trisquel community by doing this; it contributes to the idea that free software is for the sort of people who wear "tin

Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread info
bitcoin is difficult accounting wise: * most accountants don't understand bitcoin * UK specific: for EU customers, to GBP exchange rate set by HMRC (UK tax authority) must be recorded for VAT purposes. The UK government doesn't seem to have exchange rates for bitcoin. (workaround is to do

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
I rewrote the USB drive with the Trisquel mini image, because the USB drive only got a capacity of 1GB and I couldn't use the NetInstall image on a USB drive like root_vegetable explained. I realized the installation process (with USB drive and CD), of the Trisquel mini image, installs the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
Thanks for all your help guys I appreciate it very much! I tried to reset the terminal by using the command “reset”. It looks similar to my working Asus, but the signs are still here (first a black screen and then about a second later the prompt returns). The output of dmesg is attached.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-04-25 Thread tegskywalker
I'm still not 100% on the Snap packaging since this is only version 1.0, but I have been seeing a lot of text that says "Upload your snaps to the Ubuntu Store" which reminds me of an App Store model to get and update them like the Apple App Store, Google Play, and the Windows 10 Store. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does anyone know *why* there are [generally] limited free-software Broadcom drivers?

2016-04-25 Thread enduzzer
Broadcom wants to keep secrets. They're afraid of losing unique selling points or differentiation. The driver is usually open-sourced but the firmware that runs on the device is closed source proprietary. Broadcom doesn't make wifi cards, I think. They only supply the chip and they don't

[Trisquel-users] Re : Does anyone know *why* there are [generally] limited free-software Broadcom drivers?

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
Is it a case that once the kernel included the blobs, and Ubuntu included the blobbed kernel, most people simply lost interest? I think so. Notice that the driver probably is under the GPL. The firmware (i.e., the code that the kernel sends to the device to run there, not on the main CPU)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Did you follow up on this post I made: This person has a similar problem. It looks like modifying the initramfs may be a solution. https://askubuntu.com/questions/629922/linux-full-disk-encryption-password-prompt-completely-unreadable same problem:

[Trisquel-users] Does anyone know *why* there are [generally] limited free-software Broadcom drivers?

2016-04-25 Thread mountainmoksha
This is not a question I really know how to plug into DuckDuckGo effectively. Is it a case that once the kernel included the blobs, and Ubuntu included the blobbed kernel, most people simply lost interest? Or are the technical challenges of these chipsets such that its development is more

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu
I remember I had a very similar issue when I tried to install GNU on my sister's old lapy with an nvidia GPU. I had just a few hours to do it for she lives far from me and I did not manage, the text on the screen was gibberish and there were also several glitches and artifacts on screen. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread 0d54770d
I've read through this thread, and I wanted to make a point. This forum was designed to discuss ideas related to free software. I understand that people have opinions on a variety of other issues, whether they be right or wrong, but I don't see this as the most appropriate place for such

Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu
Just wanted to chime in to say that killing birds is really very wrong.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
> Do you dual/multiboot? No, I don't use multiboot. There is no other os installed on the hard drive only Trisquel. > I don't think that's related but try older or newer (Linux-libre) kernels. I also installed a 4.something kernel with the net install image. But same thing here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Sometimes it only takes a 4th grade science project to debunk a pseudo-science: " Emily Rosa, at 9 years of age, conceived and executed a study on therapeutic touch. With the help of Stephen Barrett from Quackwatch, and with the assistance of her mother, Linda Rosa, RN, Emily became the

Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread jabjabs
At the last Free software Melbourne (Australia) meetup - we had a great show and tell session for a load of great programs. The ones we covered where as follows. Screen ruler - You can place an on ruler on you screen so that you can easily measure elements. Red shift - Allows the screen to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-04-25 Thread jabjabs
I guess it really depends on how they are handled, if the Trisquel team want to maintain snap packages then why not? It is still free software so the issue is only with the technology and not the ethics.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread enduzzer
Science denialism is all about politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread onpon4
Christianity probably became the official religion of Rome for political reasons. I don't think it had anything to do with science. Also, note that it's not like a secular nation suddenly became religious; it's just that the official religion of Rome changed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread onpon4
Indeed. Sad, but we just have go go by the reputation of specific journals and publishers. If someone doesn't have a reputation, we just have to assume that they are not credible.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-04-25 Thread mohamadi . salman
I'm not a Snap packaging expert. Do you mean, for instance, getting the source code of the latest version of VLC and make a Snap package and introduce it for those who want having the latest version of VLC on Trisquel?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread dguthrie
There is no debate.

Re: [Trisquel-users] video editing on a desktop/ server with only free software

2016-04-25 Thread strypey
Thanks for the suggestion Lembas. I can't help but point out though that "instead of using some purpose made server software", I could try to roll my own mailserver or listserver, or my own version of what GNU Social or MediaGoblin does. Given my extremely limited knowledge of server-side