Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless not working
Excellent reply, but it did not convinced me. →"According to the philosophy underlying modern Western legal systems, the burden of proof is on the one who brings accusations." + → "I just would like to add that youtube-dl is free software. Like Firefox is free software even if it does not block proprietary JavaScript, GNU/Linux is free software even if it can run proprietary binaries, etc." || Let's simplify it, let's call everything in the repos of Trisquel free-software and the job is done, simply as that! That one of the proof is very funny. Your god RMS is all the time saying that others OS's are dangerous because they run malicious software, where is the prove in one specific case? Or he says it just because he wants to! And that naive idea that free-software is free just because the community have the freedom to investigate the code, doesn't stick any more. Where are the programmers to do it if they are so scarce and probably using their time to other things more profitable? Tell that to another... In Math if you want to prove that a theorem is wrong, you just have to find one proposition that negates it! Them that theorem becomes an Inconsistency, that what is the idea of free-software. But I believe in the future more inconsistency’s will arise against this purism of free-software, this manichaeist idea of "we are right the others are wrong", this so, but so much overrated concept...
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Replicant project calls for the Android SDK to be included in Trisuqel. Can you help?
"Sounds like a very defeatist argument. And also a self-fulfilling prophecy at the same time. You're not going to do it because it'll take forever to be merged and so it's never submitted and so it never happens and you get to prove yourself right. And so, no one will even try?" Couldn't agree more. and people say words don't determine our future... well I guess that is a flat lie that they don't.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Replicant project calls for the Android SDK to be included in Trisuqel. Can you help?
"If you are so optimistic about it, why don't you do it?" I'm too busy for it. It does seem a neat idea though.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Wireless not working
Excellent reply. I just would like to add that youtube-dl is free software. Like Firefox is free software even if it does not block proprietary JavaScript, GNU/Linux is free software even if it can run proprietary binaries, etc. That said, youtube-dl interpreting proprietary JavaScript makes it lose all its appeal for users who want to control their computing. Anyway, youtube-dl is free software. In fact, we know it interprets JavaScript thanks to freedom 1 that lets anyone (the whole community can collaborate) study the source code.
[Trisquel-users] Re : why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
You can play, in complete freedom, files in those format: there are free software codecs. For instance, the codecs in the "ugly" set (that is how it is officially named) of GStreamer. Trisquel has them in its default install. It has always had, contrary to other GNU/Linux distributions that do take the risk. Indeed, the patents on the MPEG formats represent a real risk: the (free or not) codec you use today may be forbidden tomorrow, if the MPEG LA mafia decides to file a law suit against the developers. They would abandon the suit for a few million dollars though... MPEG LA even pretends Theora and VP8 infringes their patents, although those formats were specifically designed to be patent-unencumbered. In the case of VP8, Google paid the ransom: http://www.mpegla.com/Lists/MPEG%20LA%20News%20List/Attachments/88/n-13-03-07.pdf Software patents are monopolies on mere ideas. See http://patentabsurdity.com/watch.html if you have not yet. It is the best explanation on software patents I know. You can listen to http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf/wpa.mp3 too: excellent investigative journalism on software patents (ironically, the podcast was distributed in the MP3 format that I did not transcode to not lose in quality).
[Trisquel-users] Vassal Game Engine on Trisquel?
Hello, If you have experience installing and running Vassal Engine on Trisquel, send me an email. I'm having trouble with it. http://www.vassalengine.org/ Thanks. - Zem, Novice GNU/linux user extraordinaire.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless not working
>Of course somebody is maybe (always "maybe"!) protecting >the "business" of think penguin and technoethical, maybe >they have a part on it, maybe... The absence of proprietary firmware in Trisquel is to ensure users can avoid executing it without their knowledge- that's all. ThinkPenguin and Technoethical obviously have an interest in it being this way, but to assume this project is intended to protect their market position would be ridiculous- how many people actually use Trisquel? It's simply not enough to make it worth the development effort if the sole purpose were protecting two (relatively small) businesses. >But one things are for sure: >1. The prices of them are just pornographic! These are small businesses in niche markets... expecting them to compete on price with mass-produced mainstream goods is not realistic. Perhaps more transparency as to were costs come from would be good, but it's clear already that they will be more expensive than standard store-bought ones. That's the price of fighting for freedom in a society were it's not an expectation, unfortunately. >2. If there are real and concise knowledge on how to >liberate the wi fi cards, we wouldn't need to buy them. What do you mean? In terms of finding freedom-compatible wi-fi cards, h-node is the best we can do with limited resources. The problem is that manufacturers will often alter the chipsets in a series, without changing anything about the packaging- which can render a once satisfactory card useless. You can't tell, so the only thing you can do is hope for the best (unless you buy it with an explicit guarantee of free-software compatibility). In terms of actually convincing manufacturers to loosen their grip on code, that's hard work. I know ThinkPenguin is involved in that- and it wouldn't be a surprise if Technoethical were too. >3. Of course h-node is not the perfect solution. One >simple question why we have to register to access the >"knowledge"? And overall is very cryptic. You could read h-node without registering last time I checked. >The free-software thing, that so many like to divinize in >this forum, is just a concept! Nothing more! I'm presuming you mean it's a pipe dream. In terms of winning over the world, it probably is- neither feminism nor anti-racism won over the whole world. But would it be worth declaring these movements a failure? Of course not! Just like these movements, the free software movement is not fighting with the expectation of winning over every living human being. Rather, it's about ensuring that nobody will be forced to accept proprietary software and/or the privacy, security, and other ethical issues accompanying it. In that sense, far from losing, great leaps have already been made- we still have a long way to go, but the present situation is far better than the one at the turn of this millenium. >As we see with youtube-dl that supposed to be a >free-software, it runs apparently non free JavaScript! And >that is just one program, there are millions! Who's gonna >check if the software is really free or not, when there is >no time nor means to do it? According to the philosophy underlying modern Western legal systems, the burden of proof is on the one who brings accusations. Hence, although YouTube-DL did indeed execute a (small, provably sandboxed) JavaScript program, other components of the system are not under suspicion until evidence is brought against them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquell/Disk Encryption Problem
If you tell us the model of your laptop (the brand should be enough) we can maybe find the relevant key to the BIOS doors.. or use a search engine.. like this -> Asus C41x how to BIOS. Once you enter the BIOS you will find the way. >canc It's like 'del', stands for 'cancel' depending on your keyboard, that is where in the world you are located. All laptops I had so far either have del, canc, esc or f2. You press that key repeatedly as soon as your pc starts.
[Trisquel-users] Can you vote to me as a speaker
hi I nede your help Can you vote to me as a speaker in TEDX BAGHDAD my email: blade.vp2...@gmail.com BTW< I dont use this mail in this time but Some people voted to me in this mail and I'm afraid to cause variation problems my phone: +9647716803406 my Full name Ali Abdul ghani Abdul Hamid http://tedxbaghdad.com/about-tedx/get-involved/suggest-a-speaker/ have fun and be free ali miracle
Re: [Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
Thank you. >will be little reason to use it I disagree. Websites selling music are likely selling mp3. There are devices that will play mp3 files and not free software foundation compliant codecs. My mp3 files I have not converted. To me it is important if they become free software foundation compliant.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless not working
Honestly, honestly I was being cynical with him. And because he is a smart guy he doesn't answer, so I had assumed that he perceived my cynicism. But I have a point, of course, I am here in Trisquel for about 1 year, and some things started to smell too funny for me. Of course somebody is maybe (always "maybe"!) protecting the "business" of think penguin and technoethical, maybe they have a part on it, maybe... But one things are for sure: 1. The prices of them are just pornographic! 2. If there are real and concise knowledge on how to liberate the wi fi cards, we wouldn't need to buy them. 3. Of course h-node is not the perfect solution. One simple question why we have to register to access the "knowledge"? And overall is very cryptic. The free-software thing, that so many like to divinize in this forum, is just a concept! Nothing more! As we see with youtube-dl that supposed to be a free-software, it runs apparently non free JavaScript! And that is just one program, there are millions! Who's gonna check if the software is really free or not, when there is no time nor means to do it? So is resoundingly only one concept and nothing more than that. They claim so purely: this is free-software operating system! But when comes the time to prove it, they can't!
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Replicant project calls for the Android SDK to be included in Trisuqel. Can you help?
Have you seen the queue of merge requests? https://devel.trisquel.info/groups/trisquel/merge_requests I am not going to work on this when it is unlikely to be even merged. If you are so optimistic about it, why don't you do it?
Re: [Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
It should've happened many years ago. Now it's kind of moot. We have lots of other options now. What about the other mp's? I remember RMS warning against 'mp-anything' when getting ready to deliver his speech to a new audience somewhere on the road.
Re: [Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
Seems that it is unencumbered now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing.2C_ownership_and_legislation Still, it is an old and inferior format.
Re: [Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
Yes. Just like with GIF, once all patents are expired, there is no problem with it. That being said, MP3 is technically inferior to Vorbis in every way, and the latter has been widely adopted, so there will be little reason to use it. GIF would have had the same treatment if it weren't for its animation support (which is all it's used for these days).
[Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
Is it the codec? Is it the license? Is it the software that plays mp3 files? Here https://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/en/ff/amm/prod/audiocodec/audiocodecs/mp3.html it says, that patents are stopping. Does that make a difference?
[Trisquel-users] Re : The Replicant project calls for the Android SDK to be included in Trisuqel. Can you help?
Two people currently have access to merge things The second person is aklis... who is not more optimist. See his last post on this forum: https://trisquel.info/forum/forum-or-subforum-dedicated-only-code-contributors#comment-113923
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless not working
Honestly, I still think you have a point. Myself, I invite people to Trisquel and have several Atheros cards that I bought for cheap so I just offer those to my friends if they want to switch to using free software. But if you're new to this stuff and decide to go full libre right away you might be really discouraged if people make you open up your computer and then switch a wifi card, especially if you don't even know if it'll work for a given laptop etc.
