Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread masonhock
Thanks for those links. I don't totally understand the details of this one https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761658 but sending any sort of data to Google without informing the user does seem troubling. I hope such behavior isn't something that will end up in a libre distro.

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread vitacell
https://systemd-free.org/ http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

[Trisquel-users] Re : About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread lcerf
See https://trisquel.info/forum/could-systemd-be-inconvenient-portability All major distributions switched to systemd's init many years ago, after many technical discussions: Fedora in 2011, Arch, openSUSE and Mageia in 2012, Red Hat and CentOS in 2014, Debian and Ubuntu in 2015. Yet the

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread calmstorm
The lock-in and the complex code is my problem with it. Because that makes bugs way too hard to remove. The lock-in though REALLY PISSES ME OFF! seriously, why should every package even ones that don't require it be dependent on systemd... that feels like embedding malware into the

Re: [Trisquel-users] What service do you recommend to replace OpenMailBox

2017-09-12 Thread masonhock
Could whoever downvoted FindEssential's comment explain why?

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread gpast_panama
Well, excluding the euphoric sensation one gets from hating the status quo (which may very well be a popular cause of SystemD hatred...), the following seem to be the major issues: 1. As you've already mentioned, it doesn't follow the Unix philosophy. A side-effect of this is that its

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread leestrobel
I don't really have a strong view on systemd myself. Tbh, I probably don't understand enough of what it does and how it differs from the alternatives to be able to judge its merits. From what I've read, the thing that concerns me the most is the potential 'lock-in' if it becomes a

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread jbar
According to hyperbola gnu/linux there are some issues with systemd https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/ I am just a regular user and I don't have a founded opinion about it.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread 7en
That line of reasoning seems perfectly reasonable to me. I wasn't concerned about freedom with systemd - it is Free Software and as such perfectly acceptable in my books. In regards to swapping it out being viable, this is what I've seen in a few distros, some of which seem to be marketing

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread 7en
I whole-heartedly agree with your sentiment because memes. - PenGNUin

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread leoo
My view is, if it's pure enough for rms (since he accepts Trisquel and other systemd-using OS's), it's pure enough for anybody. As far as anything other than freedom is concerned, if systemd is inappropriately ambitious, there should be practical consequences for that supposed

Re: [Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread greatgnu
I, a userro of gnu/systemd or gnu + systemd as I've recently taken to calling it will try to illustrate it with a picture ->

Re: [Trisquel-users] Adjusting brightness trisquel mini

2017-09-12 Thread enduzzer
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-adjust-brightness-trisquel-mini

[Trisquel-users] About systemd

2017-09-12 Thread 7en
Hello everyone, excuse the potentially stupid question: I've been reading about systemd lately and was wondering what exactly is the main issue that some people seem to have with it. My understanding so far is that it violates the Unix principle of doing one thing and doing it right and

Re: [Trisquel-users] What service do you recommend to replace OpenMailBox

2017-09-12 Thread dhood
I use Fastmail, I switched back after giving up on Openmailbox earlier this year before the recent "upgrade" issue. The issues with Openmailbox are legion, but I am not going to get into that. I am a big fan of Fastmail because of its stability, and it is one of the oldest service

Re: [Trisquel-users] Adjusting brightness trisquel mini

2017-09-12 Thread andybobguitar
I struggled with this exact same issue for weeks. As far as I can tell in mini there is no way to adjust screen brightness as well as many other system features (like preventing the screen from going to sleep). I switched to the normal trisquel version which works much better.