Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread hd-scania
It needs to be best which Trisquel is willing to also liberate LMDE, Kali, FreeBSD, and I am willing to host a build system like the Parabola PCR based on the Linux-libre and FreeBSD-libre kernels, mainly supporting Parabola and Trisquel. I also need to compose my own frpm, Free packages

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread ivan . baldinotti
I think we are all involved. I already posted that we can test the trisquel 8 release and provide feedbacks and bug reports. I had a small bug that I reported but following updates solved it and I closed it. I am using the 8 as my main distro on my main home computer. It is stable. For

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread pinmaritim
This project could be more ambitious, a good exemple of a community project with good gouvernance is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framasoft Talking about the project without the people actually involved in it is a pure waste of time..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread hd-scania
Any ZYpp-libre, urpmi-libre, FreeBSD-libre ones? Connochaet is looked aging to me, which I also need to be as cutting edged as Parabola (pacman), rpm (ZYpp and urpmi), FreeBSD.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread pinmaritim
+ https://connochaetos.org/wiki/home

Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread davesamcdxv
I may be going a tad off-topic in relation to where the thread's heading but to answer the 1st question, the "certified" free distros plus maybe Free Slack?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread tegskywalker
There is nothing wrong with an LTS release like Ubuntu 16.04 as there are point release ISOs that bring in newer kernel and xservee installed by default. Oh and there's Snap packages.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source: What are missing?

2017-10-13 Thread hd-scania
Yes the "open source" summits are focused too much to software pro, and SOFTWARE LAYPEOPLE (better for your term "users not also being developers") are quite unwelcome to those summits. Unlike us, the open source communities (regardless online forums or offline summits) treat freedoms of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Posteo vs Tutanota vs OpenMailbox

2017-10-13 Thread calmstorm
Disroot looks good so far.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread calmstorm
At the very least it would be nice if debian would besides the fact of not entangling the init, would also at the very least have only contrib or better yet have neither... meh...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Posteo vs Tutanota vs OpenMailbox

2017-10-13 Thread calmstorm
I donated some money to disroot and use their cloud storage. :) Their security is pretty decent judging by their ciphers compared to most email providers...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread hd-scania
"Cleaning" the Ubuntu main and universe pools? Are the 2 pools come with free software but which "might" be dependent on nonfree, just like the contrib pool from Debian? Though under the Linux-libre kernel, why we still need to manually clean nonfree? Aren't they auto-removed against our

Re: [Trisquel-users] How should I proceed if I want to put parabola on my x200 fde devuan laptop?

2017-10-13 Thread calmstorm
not that I need to write this for those of you who know what fde is, but full disk encryption and grub modified to not need to type in a lot of commands. is what I meant.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread calmstorm
I was just going to add, why is he asking where are you... this isn't freakin scooby doo. ;) xD

[Trisquel-users] How should I proceed if I want to put parabola on my x200 fde devuan laptop?

2017-10-13 Thread calmstorm
I am wondering if I need to do anything special to install parabola or devuan without error...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thinkpenguin Korora update: Left side of single touchpad button broken :(

2017-10-13 Thread yuval . levental
free software* laptop sound card driver. Also, a pic for the curious: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/kororapenguinnotebook/03.jpg

[Trisquel-users] Thinkpenguin Korora update: Left side of single touchpad button broken :(

2017-10-13 Thread yuval . levental
It's a little weird that they used a single touchpad button. But the left side of the single button wasn't clicking well, so I pressed too hard on it, and now it doesn't work. For the time being, I have switched to a wireless mouse. P.S. Another problem is that the sound card isn't that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread masonhock
If you require frequent software updates then don't use Trisquel or any other LTS distro. For my purposes I find that I do benefit from having the newest software, so I've switched to Parabola. However, I still support Trisquel and highly recommend it for the majority of desktop users who

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread ivan . baldinotti
?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread sophoclestechnologies
Have you managed to deactivate the screen reader? If so, how?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser, latest version (2017 Oct.)

2017-10-13 Thread anguriamelone
Hello. Do you think that the bug will be correct with the next Abrowser version?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread ivan . baldinotti
I think that for non technical people the companies you mentioned do a good job. But we should also look forward to the next steps. I am wondering if the same companies invest to make research on how to free the modern laptop

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread leoo
As I've said elsewhere, my beef with Purism is mostly their name. They're not purists. It's arguably legitimate to offer maximum freedom currently possible on current hardware, while striving to get to full freedom including the BIOS and bootloader. But to not merely imply but to claim

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread ivan . baldinotti
The link you attached is 2015 and the information not completely true. They do ship with coreboot when the author of the article was pretty sure they would not do. I saw their hardware listed on the coreboot repo. They deactivate the intel ME as I did. They cite the sources of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] jdk 9 install

2017-10-13 Thread greatgnu
> It is dependency hell It is hell, period, a terrible practice I would have never expected from senor Bananna :/ Compile \o/

Re: [Trisquel-users] jdk 9 install

2017-10-13 Thread greatgnu
> It is dependency hell It is hell, period, a terrible practice I would have never expected from senor Bananna :/ Compile \o/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread greatgnu
>there was no outright deception on their part, but a few instances where they misjudged what they could do, and made promises that they later couldn't fulfill Oh my this I find an interesting lulzy read on 'da promiseman'..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source: What are missing?

2017-10-13 Thread masonhock
Ironically, the reason I know about the free software movement at all is because the VideoLAN forum guidelines page links to this page: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread masonhock
Packages from the contrib repository are libre, but have non-free dependencies, so they can't be used without also using non-free software. Using a deblobbed kernel is important, but it will not prevent the installation of other non-free software. In order to be certain that you are not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source: What are missing?

2017-10-13 Thread lap4fsf
Open source is a development model. Their priority is the production of technically superior software(?) that the user(?) can leverage upon. In the process of making the software more powerful(?), it is not(?) a sin in the open source camp to add bits of proprietary software, including long

[Trisquel-users] Re : Open source: What are missing?

2017-10-13 Thread lcerf
*User* (not developer) freedoms are missing from "open source" talks. They will never be added! You seem to believe that "open source" preexists "free software". It is the other way around: fifteen years *after* RMS started the Free Software movement, the term "open source" was coined...

[Trisquel-users] Re : Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread lcerf
See https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html like mason suggests. Although the sections in Ubuntu are better than nothing, they are not perfect. Trisquel's project is a lot about "cleaning" packages in Ubuntu's main and universe: https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/ubuntu-purge and

[Trisquel-users] Re : Disconnection from network after waking computer from sleep

2017-10-13 Thread lcerf
If so, just boot the kernel you want and remove the newer kernels (using the package manager).

[Trisquel-users] Re : How do I change the boot order so that my libreboot boots first from the USB drive?

2017-10-13 Thread lcerf
For Abrowser, you could try starting with a profile (where you could import your bookmarks and so on). For the main menu, there is a utility named "Main Menu" in the "System Settings" to edit it the way you wish. For the service failing at init, investigation is needed, like mason wrote.

[Trisquel-users] Re : jdk 9 install

2017-10-13 Thread lcerf
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#OpenJDK_Java_9 suggests to compile it. I would first try to manually download https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/openjdk-9-jdk and to try to install it (with 'sudo dpkg -i' or double-clicking on the .deb file if you installed GDebi), discover what

[Trisquel-users] Re : Software-update arrives at a brick wall

2017-10-13 Thread lcerf
Does it write something on the root partition (in /tmp for instance)? If so, (little) space must first be freed by hand.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8... where are you?

2017-10-13 Thread tegskywalker
Hey Magic, If you look at the dates of some of the posts, I do have a reason to be worried. That first link was dated "Sun, 10/02/2016 - 13:10" How am I wrong to STILL be worried after this is still in Alpha?

[Trisquel-users] Open source: What are missing?

2017-10-13 Thread hd-scania
Like Richard Stallman and his GNU and FSF heavy works, I have also researched for what are missing from the keyword "open source", i can tell here first, we will have only freedom of developments like derivatives and packaging, and freedoms hacking and testing what else are missing, but

Re: [Trisquel-users] Other GNU/Linux-libre distro?

2017-10-13 Thread hd-scania
I have just now got a research from the official Debian wiki, which contrib "might" be dependent on nonfree (like most Deb derivatives, for Ubuntu nonfree is called "restricted" or "multiverse"), though DFSG compitable like the main pool, but dnt worry I have appended Linux-libre to prevent