Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread andre
Is $ sudo apt-get upgrade a good idea?

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-08 Thread Caleb Herbert
Also, if their workflow is still dependent on proprietary apps, then switching the OS won't do much good. Also, switching the OS will make them feel like they're "finished", and they'll slow down on their progress. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-08 Thread Caleb Herbert
Why does the employee have to use their company's chat program on a personal device? Most companies keep everything self-contained, on company equipment, so that user freedom would remain the same regardless of the software running on them. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-08 Thread onpon4
If you're not interested in learning English properly, then don't do activist work that requires skills in English. There is plenty of good you can do with Cantonese, like just spreading the basic idea of libre software through Cantonese. Or you could take up programming; no one cares how

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread blade . vp2020
Processor Speed is so important for me

Re: [Trisquel-users] Binaries-free movements back-ending in RPM sources?

2018-01-08 Thread Mason Hock
If I understand you correctly, you desire a libre sources-based rolling package manager. If this is true, I think you might be pleased by Guix. Perhaps you would achieve more by helping to package for Guix than by starting a similar project from scratch.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread hd-scania
dist-upgrade also removes some packages but mostly just aging ones, where full-upgrade may even conflict your essentials, so full-upgrade is very risky and never a good idea.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Binaries-free movements back-ending in RPM sources?

2018-01-08 Thread hd-scania
I have also installed the two nonfree systems, namely Sabayon and Calculate, both are the Gentoo forks, and I need them to study the Gentoo ecosystems to make ease of my sources-based system as what I’ve announced in my thread.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-08 Thread hd-scania
Just no longer tell me I need more English tutoring which I’m still nowhere to be tutored more unless the unreasonable education systems in my place was already over, and they don’t treat educations to be serious and they’re always needed to be overloaded under the heavy exam practices.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread hd-scania
Big sacrifice? Unclear what you’re saying, but I just sacrifice little which the iwlwifi card is my only nonfree hardware, and I just don’t need any nonfree apps for my daily practice.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread ariella
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/01/04/ubuntu-updates-for-the-meltdown-spectre-vulnerabilities/ Ubuntu users of the 64-bit x86 architecture (aka, amd64) can expect updated kernels by the original January 9, 2018 coordinated release date, and sooner if possible. Updates will be available

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread ariella
Good thinking! Thanks! That's what I'll look for.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Re EOMA-68 computer cards & devices. Luke has opportunity for some interesting cpu cards and theres a team developing risc cpus in India which i believe have a mandate and the money from the gov to make free cpu’s targeted for things like laptops and other computers a society needs. See for india

Re: [Trisquel-users] GPS navigator with free software

2018-01-08 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
On 08/01/18 04:08, onp...@riseup.net wrote: > A device with GNU/Linux like the Pyra should theoretically be fine, too, > if you add GPS to it somehow. In that case I suppose you would use Navit. There was bluegps app for using a bluetooth gps receiver on replicant/android 4.2 i think but its

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread sora
it appears that full-upgrade exists: $ man apt but I do not really use it. full-upgrade (apt-get(8)) full-upgrade performs the function of upgrade but will remove currently installed packages if this is needed to upgrade the system as a whole.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread jason
Everyone is having a metldown because Canonical has not released fixes yet. The bigger question is: When will Canonical fix it in Ubuntu? Trisquel inherits security updates from Ubuntu so *THAT* is the question you want to be asking.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread lcerf
I indeed did not understand it right. There are currently three demonstrated ways to do a Spectre attack. AMD is quite fine ("near zero risk") after a kernel patch solves one of these ways (which can therefore be solved through a software update, unlike the other ways):

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread lcerf
Hardening is, well, making harder, not impossible, to make a Spectre attack, whereas the KAISER patch makes Meltdown attacks impossible... at the cost of a performance penalty.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread greatgnu
It might be senility or I suddenly can not understand English, so I will just copy and paste here.. The bounds check bypass has also been shown to read kernel memory on Intel and AMD processors. Importantly, this does not work on AMD processors in default configurations. The

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread ariella
Oh! But according to: --- https://spectreattack.com/#faq-fix Is there a workaround/fix? There are patches against Meltdown for Linux ( KPTI (formerly KAISER)), Windows, and OS X. There is also work to harden software against future exploitation of Spectre, respectively to patch software

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread blade . vp2020
yes its sudo apt full-upgrade

[Trisquel-users] Re : Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread lcerf
Instead of 'sudo apt-get full-upgrade', you mean 'sudo apt full-upgrade' or 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade', don't you?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread lcerf
They are getting patches against Meltdown. No software (including firmware) update can solve Spectre.

[Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-08 Thread blade . vp2020
" It has been said throughout the ages, that there can be no victory, without sacrifice." Just like all Free GNU/Linux Distros, we should give a big sacrifices to gain our liberty. As you know the new processors has a big vulnerabilitys founded in the last days cause a big problems in user

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread ariella
So Windows, linux kernel, iOS, macOS are all getting patches to help mitigate until we can get all new chips lol. Can anyone tell me if the Trisquel update engine has picked up anything for itself or will soon? I just want to do what I can for my Ministry of Freedom Libreboot Trisquel Lenovo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-08 Thread blade . vp2020
we push the update we use the dependencies way

Re: [Trisquel-users] Any packages for "clocking"?

2018-01-08 Thread svenerik_vn
Allright, thanks :)

[Trisquel-users] ITU-T X.509, security token, PAdES and software freedom

2018-01-08 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Hi all, Someone in another mailing list inspired me to ask the following questions: 1. Are there free/libre device firmware and kernel driver/modules that allow interacting with security tokens that follow the ITU-T X.509 standard? If yes, which ports they use (/e.g./: USB, custom one)?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-08 Thread onpon4
So, you're just saying that's where your vocabulary comes from? That's immaterial. All dictionaries contain roughly the same entries, the only difference is spelling and a few new or uncommon words. The point is that you need more tutoring. You're not even close to done learning English.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-08 Thread fbits
Sure, every adult has to make their own decision, but it is also a personal decision whether or not to help, and nobody should feel forced to help install proprietary software for others. What I meant above is, for example, if somebody tells me they can use free software for everything

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-08 Thread bob
You're doing better than I am then I guess! Generally if a family member asks for help with their computer or smartphone then I'll help them, regardless of the software they happen to be running. I might not agree with their technology choices, but I think once we've had a chat about it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-08 Thread jason
This is very strange indeed. What is in your sources.list? What do these commands say? dpkg-query -l linux-libre-4.9 apt-cache policy linux-libre-4.9

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-08 Thread fbits
I understand you both (Magic Banana and SuperTramp) but personally I choose to help close relatives or friends install *some* proprietary programs as long as they are making an effort to switch to free software as much as possible. Why? Otherwise they would be using *only* proprietary

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-08 Thread lcerf
As far as I understand, there are two vulnerabilities, Meltdown and Spectre, but two different ways to exploit Spectre were shown. And Spectre cannot be solved through software (so no kernel configuration helps, neither does a firmware update): only the next generation of CPUs will be

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-01-08 Thread leestrobel
Trisquel uses Gitlab for its own development, which apparently is on an 'open source' license and seems to work with LibreJS enabled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitLab

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-08 Thread blade . vp2020
we try but stil no update its seme we will push it useing uruk apt repo