Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread jason
Okay; that's a point although it wouldn't require removing it. This can be solved by changing the default web page to somewhere else (or to perhaps nowhere.) A bug can be filed so that the appropriate changes could be made.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread enduzzer
Oh, I see, you are most likely right. It's under 'epiphany-browser' in the repo.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread shiretoko
I believe we're talking here about "webbrowser", formerly known as "epiphany", the own webbrowser of the gnome project.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Play swf games in Trisquel 8

2018-05-31 Thread shiretoko
I'm not quite sure but if you think about it, there is actually now way that gnash can just "forward" the execution of the swf code since then gnash itself would not be neccessary and the OS could just understand the code on its own. So gnash has to be some kind of translater or pipe and it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread enduzzer
Webbrowser-app was part of Unity and Ubuntu Touch, Canonicals convergence kit. I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 right now, and I can't find it. It's not in the repos anymore, at least not with that name as a standalone package. I can't find it under system/default applications either. Then again, it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread shiretoko
"Anyway I find your tone rather aggressive and I believe you misinterpreted my OP. I am asking why this program is in the repo because of reason X. I have not demanded immediate exclusion." Well, you asked a question and I gave you an answer. "How about just not responding?" Then why would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread shiretoko
"After all, how much better is a libre virtual machine running Windows than a proprietary virtual machine running Windows?" That's a false comparison. If I use the virtual windows machine for doing my computing just like with an ordinary pc, then certainy this isn't better than just using

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread onpon4
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think if you're using a Web browser as a proprietary JavaScript interpreter (as most people do), it's really not much better than a proprietary Web browser. After all, how much better is a libre virtual machine running Windows than a proprietary

[Trisquel-users] Re : Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread lcerf
The first time Abrowser is launched (after every update, I believe), the displayed page proposes, among privacy settings, to disable JavaScript or to enable LibreJS, whose icon informs the user whenever proprietary JavaScript is blocked and allows to "add/remove pages's domain to/from

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread Mason Hock
I agree that the problem with JavaScript is a much bigger issue than the start page of a broken web browser called webbrowser-app buried in the Trisquel repo. > If we actually want to solve this problem, there's only one good solution: > turn off JavaScript support in all supplied browsers (and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Play swf games in Trisquel 8

2018-05-31 Thread Mason Hock
> Thanks, please clarify, running a swf game in gnash is similar to running a > nes game ROM in a nes free software emulator? Running a proprietary game in a free software emulator doesn't address the freedom issue either. An emulator doesn't give you the ability or legal right to modify and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Actions to do after installing GNU Guix

2018-05-31 Thread platoxia
FYI, you can skip step 1 by simply using bash's command substitution like so: ---cut here---start-- export XDG_DATA_DIRS="$HOME/.guix-profile/share:$(echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS)" ---cut here---end

Re: [Trisquel-users] Play swf games in Trisquel 8

2018-05-31 Thread gnuser
Thanks, please clarify, running a swf game in gnash is similar to running a nes game ROM in a nes free software emulator? Or is there a difference? Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread onpon4
If that's a problem, and I tend to agree that it is, then not sending people to Google is not the solution. After all, almost the entirety of the Web has proprietary JavaScript on it, even if it's optional, and every modern Web browser executes that JavaScript code automatically. Let's take

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread greatgnu
>However, the JavaScript in google.com is proprietary. If a browser uses Google as its start page, then even if the browser itself is free it will install and run proprietary software when it is first launched. ^ this

Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about updating the kernel and Trisquel's wiki-guide on how to do it

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
Oh my.. I misunderstood the exact same thing once again. I don't know why my brain can't handle this, I... apologize.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about updating the kernel and Trisquel's wiki-guide on how to do it

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
Yeah.. It's just my brain refuses to recognize this. I think it is because subconciously I want it to be 1.3 and 4.0 or something... Either way sorry for the trouble

Re: [Trisquel-users] Whats the deal with coreboot/libreboot on the x220/230? (looking for a more powerful freedom laptop)

2018-05-31 Thread jbahn
Someone mentioned libreboot might fix coil whine, but I have my doubts. It doesn't Only I didn't know what the noise was, so thanks for enlightening me on that. Absolutely nothing one can do about it? Flashing the T400s should be harder than the other machines but the guys from Technoethical

[Trisquel-users] Re : Questions about updating the kernel and Trisquel's wiki-guide on how to do it

2018-05-31 Thread lcerf
You do. What I explained you two days ago: https://trisquel.info/forum/how-choose-right-kernel-your-pc#comment-132478

Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about updating the kernel and Trisquel's wiki-guide on how to do it

2018-05-31 Thread happy_gnu
I don't follow, What does 4.4 has anything to do here? 13 is way after 4樂

[Trisquel-users] Questions about updating the kernel and Trisquel's wiki-guide on how to do it

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
So I freshly installed Trisquel Mini in hopes of getting the temps down, and then went straight here: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel to get some guidance on how to update the kernel. Now I assumed that the kernel the wiki calls 4.13 is actually 4.4.13, but when I

[Trisquel-users] Hebrew support

2018-05-31 Thread Caleb Herbert
Trisquel 7 has decent Hebrew support, but once annoyance is that the titlebar text is still anchored to the left, rather than the right. Does Trisquel 8 fix this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread Mason Hock
> Please show which parts of the FSDG those things violate: > https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html Bugginess certainly is not a freedom issue. However, the JavaScript in google.com is proprietary. If a browser uses Google as its start page, then even if the

Re: [Trisquel-users] No video out after flashing libreboot on my x200 via raspberypi

2018-05-31 Thread thum+trisquelforum
> (i realize this is counter productive to your business, but figured Id ask anyway. You'd be surprised to hear that most people here don't have their own financial gain in mind but sincerely want to provide help or help to help yourself. =) The few organizations posting their

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
"Because Trisquel complies with the FSF Free System Distribution Guidelines (FSDG)" So my question should rather have been aimed towards why FSF doesn't regard marketing as an issue. Gotcha. ""I said is has Google as start page in is very buggy." Please show which parts of the FSDG those

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread jason
"My question should have been directed to FSF and why they recommend Trisquel." Because Trisquel complies with the FSF Free System Distribution Guidelines (FSDG) https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html "I said is has Google as start page in is very buggy."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Whats the deal with coreboot/libreboot on the x220/230? (looking for a more powerful freedom laptop)

2018-05-31 Thread xliang9550
I went to the marketplace this afternoon. I saw one ThinkPad Yoga for about $360 USD. i5 4300U, no BG 8 GiB RAM 250 GB SSD 12.5-in 1080p FHD IPS with digitizer pen support

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
Yeah I understand. My question should have been directed to FSF and why they recommend Trisquel. Not directed to the forum of Trisquel as to why the package is included. But I really feel like Trisquel has a goal of being totally free, hence my questioning of the marketing of this particular

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread shiretoko
If a program was immediately excluded from the repo just because some user has some problem with it, then most likely there wouldn't be any program left. How about just not using it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Whats the deal with coreboot/libreboot on the x220/230? (looking for a more powerful freedom laptop)

2018-05-31 Thread ivan . baldinotti
the prices should be in swiss franc that are almost 1:1 to USD. in your case 419USD. I think that shipping would be expensive to US, depending on the weight. I think that if you write them, they would answer. For the second configuration you could just try the same you did for the other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot X200 Tablet now available on Minifree. With Trisquel 8 preinstalled

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
But what about the "outdoor" display?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
> Why can't it be? My reason was in the OP. I said is has Google as start page in is very buggy. > If you want something to be excluded please make your case based on https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html Good tip! Thanks. > please show how it doesn't meet

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Ubuntu Web Browser in the repository?

2018-05-31 Thread svenerik_vn
What about marketing issue?