Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on Arm? Pinebook Pro running Trisquel? Trisquel Touch?
Linux-libre is already being built for 64-bit ARM: https://jxself.org/linux-libre/ A good freedom test might be for someone that already owns this board to test it out and see what happens. Of course, I am not suggesting that anyone get it merely for testing; only if someone already has one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
I just watched something on Invidious and have no cookies from googlevideo.com. I'm not entirely sure, but I don't think that a server that's merely sending a resource (a video in this case) can use cookies or see your user agent. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I think the only thing Google can see is your IP address in this case.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does installing Trisquel 7 updates cancel my sound system?
$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC3227 Analog [ALC3227 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 $ arecord -l List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC3227 Analog [ALC3227 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 $ lspci | grep Audio 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04) $ sudo lshw | grep -A 5 multimedia *-multimedia:0 description: Audio device product: Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 3 bus info: pci@:00:03.0 -- *-multimedia:1 description: Audio device product: 8 Series HD Audio Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1b bus info: pci@:00:1b.0 Testing the speakers and headphones did result in sound, both with the speakers and the headphones. Turning up the faders while playing music did not fix the problem.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
I use youtube-dl + mpv Cheers!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
I am wondering, if I use www.invidio.us to watch or download a video, can the www.googlevideo.com server still place cookies on my browser to track me?
[Trisquel-users] Re : Why does installing Trisquel 7 updates cancel my sound system?
In 'alsamixer' (to execute in a terminal), is the proper sound card selected (with F6) and are the relevant channels (Master/Speaker/...) unmuted and with a sufficient volume?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does installing Trisquel 7 updates cancel my sound system?
> Yes, the other 2 kernels (4.4.0-142-generic and 4.4.0-141-generic) did > not fix the problem. I'm going to assume that "the problem" is that you have no sound. If the problem is more specific than that then let me know. I'm also assuming that you are using MATE, the default Trisquel desktop environment, and that you have not uninstalled Pulseaudio or installed JACK. Let me know if any of these assumptions is incorrect. Here are some things to try: First run $ aplay -l $ arecord -l $ lspci | grep Audio $ sudo lshw | grep -A 5 multimedia and copy/paste the output of those four commands here. Next, go to Control Center -> Sound, and go to the "Hardware" tab. You should see at least one sound device. For each device you see, click "Test Speakers" and test all of the output channels. If you are using a laptop, try this both with and without headphones. See which devices can and cannot produce sound. Next, start playing some music or something through vlc or mpv (not Abrowser) and while that's going run $ alsamixer (You might have to install it first.) alsamixer exposes lower-level settings for your sound cards than MATE's volume preferences. Here are the basic controls - Left/Right to switch between faders - Up/Down to adjust a fader - M to mute/unmute a fader - F6 to switch sound cards Unmute and turn up every fader for every sound card until you get sound or run out of faders to try. Report back the results of trying these things. The more detailed you can be the better. Hopefully that will give us some clues as to what the problem is. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
Thanks for the reply. What I am not sure is how much information does youtube collect when I use invidious. Like... the server sees that video A is being downloaded, and can see my IP making the connection (or my Tor IP whatever). Can they see for example which browser I am using, or if I try to use a different downloader (curl for example) ?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
I have actually been wondering this for a while now. Hoping someone here knows.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on Arm? Pinebook Pro running Trisquel? Trisquel Touch?
Panfrost does now work with support for EGL and OpenGL ES, as well as Wayland and media playback and has a driver merged in Mesa and is pushing for its kernel DRM driver to be accepted for mainline kernel inclusion.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
The invidious option seems like the best out of those. A similar option is using mpv (with youtube-dl) to watch a video once you have the part of the link after https://youtube.com/ from invidious, using mpv [link here] in a terminal. However, since invidious does not require javascript, it is more convenient than copy and pasting a link to a terminal every time you want to watch a video.
[Trisquel-users] Best way to watch Youtube videos?
SO I have always used the Tor Browser to access the Youtube website and watch their videos. Since many websites that I use require Javascript I usually have it on and it was never much of a deal for me. But I have been interested in looking for other ways of doing so since I have noticed that even with Tor Browser they can still usually know that it's the same user (I suppose they don't know WHO I am because of Tor, but the stuff like screen resolution and size along with the chosen video topics and time of the day will give them enough info to still build a profile). Some options: 1. Using invideo.us website This alleviates the issue of Javascript since the website doesn't need it, but I suppose Youtube still sees that a Tor user is watching the same topics at the same times, only through another front-end. So it might not be an ideal solution. It still, I think, eliminates some side information like screen resolution. 2. Using a desktop app like FreeTube It will be similar to using invideo.us only that this way I avoid telling another website what I am doing. Also, I don't find it very responding in Trisquel 8 (I tried the appimage), sliding buttons go on and off at random while not really changing settings. I don't know if other alternatives exist. 3. Using an online service to download videos and watch locally Worse than other options, because it's using SaaSS. And I suspect downloads are still carried by direct connections to Youtube servers. 4. Not using Youtube Would be the ideal solution if not for the fact that Youtube has the biggest collection of videos on earth and I need to access them lol. What do you guys think? Thanks.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does installing Trisquel 7 updates cancel my sound system?
Sound works fine on a Trisquel 8 Live USB.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does installing Trisquel 7 updates cancel my sound system?
Yes, the other 2 kernels (4.4.0-142-generic and 4.4.0-141-generic) did not fix the problem.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on Arm? Pinebook Pro running Trisquel? Trisquel Touch?
> Pinebook pro can work natively > with ubuntu and proprietary blobs and if you buy a usb-wifi adapter, it > could even work 100% freely with Trisquel (for example). This has been true of every laptop I've encountered, so it isn't remarkable. The only problems I often run into with laptops are WiFi and 3D acceleration. This laptop has both of these problems, so freedom-wise it's about as bad as it gets. Still, I'm glad to see exploration of non-x86 architectures. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on Arm? Pinebook Pro running Trisquel? Trisquel Touch?
Nice discussion, I learned plenty of stuff. Thank you to both of you. So, if I understand well, the Pinebook Pro with a usb-wifi adapter could work without any proprietary blob. So for a first work from Pine64, if we forget the "experimental" Pinebook (not pro) which was quiet light for most usage, it is a good job. Maybe Pine64 should explain that proudly. Pinebook pro can work natively with ubuntu and proprietary blobs and if you buy a usb-wifi adapter, it could even work 100% freely with Trisquel (for example). Saying it this way, it could even push future design of Pinebook Pro to get rid of soldered WI-FI and exchange it by a PCI one (if that is possible of course). And thus do the same for PineTab and PinePhone. If I'm wrong, don't hesitate to tell me. If I'm right on contrary, I'll be glad to expose that on Pine64's forum to invite others to talk about it and maybe push Pine64's team to take it in account in the future.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on Arm? Pinebook Pro running Trisquel? Trisquel Touch?
"Do you know any device that has soldered WI-FI chip that is not "needing proprietary software" ?" Sadly, I don't. But: That it may be common among the various SoC as you say doesn't make it untrue of this particular one as well so I don't get the objection to mentioning it about this particular SoC. After all: The OP's question was about the freedom status of the device. The earlier responses provide that information; and I believe that "whitewashing" over it would have been dishonest of me, or at least misleading. It's good to talk about these problems and I wish that more people did that.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on Arm? Pinebook Pro running Trisquel? Trisquel Touch?
Nope. Please. Do you know any device that has soldered WI-FI chip is not "needing proprietary software" ? All such chips are PCI or USB. (If there is SDIO one I really want to know about it). Graphics/display output is properly working presently. 3D and Video accelarion is a different thing for very specific tasks. And not universally working amongs the various AMD/Nvidia cards. All recent AMD/Nvidia cards REQUIRE proprietary software to have graphics/display! (no workaround) Most ARM SoCs DO NOT REQUIRE proprietary software to have graphics/display. All recent AMD/Intel CPUs REQUIRE various proprietary software to BOOT. (no workaround) Most ARM SoCs DO NOT REQUIRE any proprietary software to BOOT. ( u-boot :) ). Thatoo Pinebook Pro will work good with linux-libre ARM distro, except for the WI-FI. I want to get one for myself. Finally I recommend Armbian, they play around with this.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Why does installing Trisquel 7 updates cancel my sound system?
That is Trisquel 8's default kernel, with all security/bug-fix updates installed. It works great here. Have you tried booting an older kernel, from GRUB's "Advanced options for Trisquel" (or something like that, in the menu after the computer powers on but before an operating system starts)?
