I've tried getting accounts on rugged inbox and open mailbox. Both have
visual captcha, with no alternative way to prove I'm human. I guess people
who need tools like Orca screen reader are not welcome.
To ansser the original question re: tradition vs functional requirement,
it's a convention that helps to maintain order by keeping binaries, taken
from repository packages, from binaries resulting from compilation of sources
not in the repos, and from scripts for use only by one user. For
No, but thanks for suggestions. I have no indicator-application-service
installed. In distros with Mate as the only installed de, the network
manager panel applet is accessible.
Hi!
I'm running the Mate desktop in Trisquel 7, and notice a couple of things:
1) the network manager applet seems to be missing. Since I connect to my
home wifi connection automatically, the connection works, but I do not see a
way to select networks, from a panel applet, nor can I see
Putting out live iso, based on the Ubuntu point releases, like 14.4.3 seems a
good idea. If one has a system in place, will a dist-upgrade bring it up to
14.4.3 when it's ready?
Maybe, if one could pick the cli installer from the live system, this could
work? Maybe an 'Advanced options' type page, in the gui installer, could
offer choices like de, services, boot loader? People who don't expand the
advanced options or run the cli installer would just get the
Is there a specific security threat when orca and/or speech-dispatcher is/are
present? If you plan to remove the screen reader, the package is called
gnome-orca.
BTW, I've been trying, since 2011, to get the GUI off my system; it';comes up
and I cannot stop it. LOL.
This is first I've heard of compiz not working well with orca; I'll ask.
Does either metacity or marco do screen magnification? Whatever we decide to
do for Trisquel's window manager in version 8, we should make sure that
accessibility feature works.
I don't think the init system effects Mate.
Perhaps there's been some improvement. Last time I tried orca in LXDE, the
panels, menus, desktop, and notification area were not accessible, and the
file manager was only accessible in list mode. I found, however, that
mousepad (the default text editor) is accessible. The Mozilla
Oh, I forgot:
With LXDE and XFCE, user is unaware of what window would have focus, when she
releases the 'alt+tab' (window switching) keys; Orca doesn't speak this. In
orca releases before 3.12, the same information was missing when Mate was the
desktop. In the Mate case, it was a matter
I have Mate and orca working in another distro. There are a few minor
accessibility gaps, but it is usable. Since Ubuntu Mate is an official spin,
and Mate packages are also maintained in Debian (Jessie) main repos, I think
Mate in Trisquel 8 is a fine idea!
My friend has been tasked with making Sugar learning environment accessible,
by means of the Orca screen reader, on a OLPC machine. I tried running orca
on Trisquel Sugar; There must be missing pieces; orca did not talk. I'm not
sure where to tell my friend to start but promised I'd ask
Thanks; I was just curious, having heard the names of systemd components go
by as I was upgrading; was just wondering if there was some kind of
incremental move under way. I still have no opinion re: the merrits of
systemd vs upstart. To users not running servers, it probably won't make a
Hello,
I recently did my monthly dist-upgrade, and heard mention of Pieces of
systemd, like the journal and services, getting installed. After the
upgrade, I went looking for the cli tools like systemctl and journalctl;
they're not present. How much of systemd do I now have? Are my
I thought this was strictly an Orca problem, and was contemplating a
full-time switch to mutt or alpine for mail. The problem became apparent the
first time I used enygmail to sign a message. The problem seems to have
vanished as mysteriously as it began appearing. Still have enygmail,
I, too, miss the weather report applet on the panel. I set the
wunderground.com forecast for my city as my home page; it sort-of replaces
the applet. :)
I installed the binary, but couldn't do much. I suppose I now have an id,
but not sure how to change settings, add contacts to phone book, test audio,
etc... Does the ring daemon keep listening, when client is closed?
I set searx as my browser's default engine, and tried a bunch of searches.
I'd say the results were comparable to ones I'd get by hitting bing or
google. but the result presentation is wonderfully clean and easy to read.
Thanks rfor the suggestion.
I use orca 3.14.3 and was able to join !trisquel. I've noticed that some
gnusocial instances are more accessible than others.
Cheers,
Dave
gnusocial: http://social.2mb.solutions/davehunt
I had to remove ibus to fix my keyboard input issue with gedit.
You are not the odd one out. I use noscript, and have white-listed a few
sites with probably-non-free scripts.
I just started using gnusocial, and am finding it hard to fit in; it seems
I'm mostly talking to myself:). I must say, getting into the twitter and
facebook streams is far easier, based on my experience. Still giving
gnusocial a chance.
Follow me on http://social.2mb.solutions/DaveHunt
If the screen reader is on for the login greeter, use 'ctrl+s' key on
dialogue, next time you login. On your desktop, use 'alt+super+s' to toggle
the screen reader. If it is off, it should be off in future sessions.
HTH,
Dave (a user of Orca screen reader)
I think Mate, as packaged in Ubuntu-mate spin, would meet Trisquel's
accessibility requirement; have used Ubuntu-Mate Trusty, Utopic, and Vivid.
Open a nautilus window, and put the cursor on the name of a text file. Use
'alt+enter' key, to open the Properties page for the selected file. Go to
the Open With page, and select mousepad. Finally, tick the 'set as default'
option. Now, all text files will automatically open with
Yah; I filed that bug a long time ago, and it's still with us. Using
mousepad instead; give that a try.
Maybe I did forget to attach, or it was rejected? It seems a moot point,
now, anyway, thanks for the follow-up comments. If there is continued
interest, I'll try again, or paste script into a forum message (note: the
browser may wrap in strange ways). :) Anyway, since learning of the
Herer is a little script I used to use for running unetbootin from the
terminal; If I don't want persistent space, I just use the 'dd' command to
write to my usb drives.
The script prompts user for path to iso image, path to usb drive, and time to
wait for the action to complete. It
Keep eating that fish; its brain food; LOL! And I'm another that just got
reeled in; not with good taste, but tasting good; HaHaHa. I really need to
start visiting this Trisquel Cafe Place; look at all the gnus and penguins!
Until you figure how to make right-clicking work, use the keys 'ctrl+f10' on
the desktop and panels, to get the menu with options like new folder, add
launcher, add to panel, etc. In Nautilus, you can use 'shift+f10', to get
the context menu with properties, move to, etc...
HTH,
Dave
Why doesn't GNOME have a gui for changing these preferences, as does Mate
and, maybe, XFCE?
I try not to use the gui update manager; using commandline tools is just
easier. Given that there is a working patch for the gui app, why not just
apply it and issue the patched update manager in the cycle?
Testing with the live system is the easiest way to see whether everything
works. Otherwise, you can check your hardware against lists of hardware
known to work in GNU/Linux without non-free support, or, as you already have
done with the wireless, ask about your machine in places like this
Honestly, though I'm using a TP USB wifi radio in a Toshiba laptop with an
Intel wifi build in, I don't feel like I've gained much, if anything, from
this purchase. I could run something like Ubuntu Mate, and have the same set
of free apps. If I did this, and never used that ugly Software
I have some experience with the Emacs mail/news reader, web client, Org Mode,
and the Dismal spreadsheet, all with the accessibility thing called
Emacspeak. I found the web client (emacs-w3) hard to use, and only useful on
the simplest of web sites; not just referring to JScript, here.
Oh, My Gerd! YooHoo Comics must be an emacser! LOL Seriously, it's amazing
what that thing can do; calling Emacs an editor does it an injustice!
Who you calling Old? lol!
I was pleased to discover that the BLAG GNOME 20 live medium seems to
have a complete GNOME 3.10, including orca screen reader. I haven't yet
checked the Mate spin. My earlier test was on 14. 20 does not seem
to see my Think Penguin USB wifi radio; that's for another topic or
I found the schedule for the radio program of interest and downloaded the
episodes with youtube-dl instead of get-iplayer. Why do they use flash video
for files containing only audio? I tried converting one to ogg with
oggconvert; the result sounded horrible; I'll just keep the flv's for
I didn't realize they had electronic instruments back in old Messopotamia;
LOL. You can replace the file with any sound you like; I just use the stock
Trisquel one that has been in place since Brigantia, maybe earlier, but
that's when I started using Trisquel.
Nothing stopping you from putting that favorite login sound into your
Trisquel. Not sure what you can do with the pointer; LOL.
I'm glad to hear you are considering buying a pre-owned laptop, thereby
keeping a few bits of toxic materials out of the waste stream. Also, you're
repurposing perfectly-good hardware. Before installing any new operating
system onto such a machine, I'd shred the drive. You can do this
I tried a BLAG GNOME live image, and found that it has no accessibility,
thereby denying a class of users freedom #0, nevermind the other three.
The startup sound from Brigantia is still available in Trisquel 7 (I can't
properly spell his name, ever). LOL.
Go to
menus-system settings-startup applications and select Add. then, do the
following:
Command: /usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id=desktop-login --description=GNOME
Login
Answering post #21:
Sounds like you're good to go re: making that machine a full-time Trisquel
box! You might have to run hwinfo as root; try
sudo hwinfo
I have to agree with post #1 here. If the machine is not yours, let them do
as they wish, assuming you have explained your choices and desire to install
only software that respects their freedoms. Let them install Win, a non-free
GNU/Linux, whatever, and take full responsibility for it.
In reply to #15:
*nods* let's hope it's not /dev/sdb. How'bout checking before that 'dd'
command. I recommend
lsblk
This lists your block devices.
If you'd prefer, you can get this list from the disks utility, found in the
Settings panel. For my convenience, I added a bunch of these
As Magic Banana says in post #13, As a relative new-comer, you'd have an
easier time reinstalling Mini, than transforming a GNOME installation to a
Mini, or something like it. I've been doing this a while, and would still
choose this expedient option.
I have an account on sip:w...@iptel.org; for sip, I can use linphonecd in the
terminal, but rarely launch it, since I have no contacts.
I've been running orca in Trisquel since 5.0 and have not experienced trouble
with using the control key for operations like cut, copy, paste and rename.
Trisquel 7's gedit does not work with orca; I've filed issues on orca and
trisquel bug trackers, with no results. I use mousepad instead.
Did you turn key echo off? Use 'orca+space' to get the preferences gui. On
the 'key echo' tab, you can set what keys, if any, are echoed by orca. This
can stop orca from saying 'control', 'alt', 'shift', etc. Even if all keys
are echoed, the keystrokes should pass through to the app in
This customization ui seems to be invisible to screen readers (Windows and
GNU/Linux).
I found and opened 'menu-view-toolbars-customize; thanks! Once I opened
the Customize ui, I found nothing but a 'learn more' link, using Orca's
normal reading keys for the web browser. Using Orca's flat review and
mouse emulation, I could find and right-click on hello. From the context
You sent me a message, using the contact form, but I get access denied
error when trying the link in the email from the forum system. Please email
me on ka1...@gmail.com
Mumble is fine for conferences and gaming, but I wouldn't consider it a
skype replacement.
My abrowser does not have a Customize screen. Do you mean about:config?
I'd hardly call Trisquel bleeding edge; it's based on Ubuntu LTS releases.
I find the jitsi desktop client completely inaccessible with orca screen
reader, and cannot sign up for the xmpp option on jit-si; it has a recaptcha
thing I cannot solve.
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