Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-14 Thread andrew
Agreed

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-13 Thread davesamcdxv
Well yes, we'll need to replace the own v. hire thingy with something a bit more legally true (thanks for noting that!) but at least you get where I was trying to go with my text

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-13 Thread Andrew Lindley
I'm in broad agreement with you. However, at present Trisquel development is pretty much Rubén alone. So until those of us who are making fools of ourselves :-) on trisquel-devel make the grade and we have more devs then it's Hobsons Choice really ('Like it or lump it.'). By all means chat

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-13 Thread davidvargas1
Leny2010 I'll have to agree with you. Donations, and volunteers is a most to have. Specially when you have to navigate, the strict rules and standards of maintaining a FSF credible distribution. As Ruben said at LibrePlanet, Trisquel isn't about the bleeding edge, because the user is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-12 Thread davidvargas1
Leny2010 It does not take a genius to fix those Le petite problems. Anyhow since the beginning TRISQUEL it always has gallop the finite legacy of a GNU/LINUX distro. I'm not yet incline, to say mediocre so soon, but close enough to think of it slightly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread legimet . calc
Actually, the 6.0.1 package doesn't depend on polkit-kde-1, but the 7.0 one does. So I don't think it's fixed in 6.0.1 yet.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread Andrew Lindley
Actually, the 6.0.1 package doesn't depend on polkit-kde-1, but the 7.0 one does. So I don't think it's fixed in 6.0.1 yet. I did a Triskel install from the 6.0.1 netinst and didn't need to put polkit-kde-1 on. It might be that the actual package dependencies haven't been fixed. However,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread legimet . calc
It should still be added as a dependency. I installed from the regular Trisquel iso and installed the triskel package. (I have both GNOME and KDE)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread Andrew Lindley
It should still be added as a dependency. I installed from the regular Trisquel iso and installed the triskel package. (I have both GNOME and KDE) Rubén said in the developer meeting where Triskel was dropped that defect support was now limited to the packages on Trisquel install media, all

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread Andrew Lindley
... As in fix R6 bugs in the R7 alpha. we can always tell a user to move to the latest release. Leny

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread davidvargas1
t3g said: I tried out the recent build of Trisquel 7 today, and the default desktop environment looks very amateur. The panels look outdated and the default fonts are ugly to look at. You figured that things could get better than 6 considering the new libraries, but Ruben either doesn't

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread tegskywalker
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/install-budgie-evolve-os-desktop-ubuntu-14-04 There's this new DE from the guy that created (and abandoned) SolusOS and the Consort desktop. It looks promising and it clearly draws inspiration from ChromeOS. Of course its still very early and the author

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread Andrew Lindley
I'm sure if someone were to develop a better look and submit the patches on trisquel-devel they would be welcome. Fiurther the R7 alpha is out, so the code base is there to work from if someone wants to re-theme Trisquel . If people don't have those skills then becoming an associate member

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread tegskywalker
Ruben has had way over a year to fix the theme with 6. It seems like he is going to leave it as is without any effort. What makes you think he is suddenly going to revamp the interface when the OS is already lagging behind in its release. It sucks, considering there are improvements to the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread legimet . calc
I don't know what you're talking about. The triskel package isn't from Kubuntu, so there's no upstream. It's one of Trisquel's own packages, and therefore it's Trisquel's responsibility to fix it. I don't know if you're familiar with Debian packaging, but triskel is a metapackage, which

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread legimet . calc
BTW, most patches have very little to change for the next release (or are unneeded), especially ones that just import from upstream, and most of my patches just import from upstream.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread Andrew Lindley
The mention of Kubuntu was to indicate that a distro with a lot more developer resources took ages to fix the same problem with their kubuntu-desktop metapackage (and haven't backported it either). If they are 'lack lustre' in fixing this sort of thing in a timely fashion what is a 'one [part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread legimet . calc
It was not fixed in the iso release. The actual problem is that, if you have Trisquel GNOME installed, you have policykit-gnome-1, which apper/muon are supposed to work with (but don't). Apper/Muon depend on either policykit-gnome-1 or polkit-kde-1, so if you already have policykit-gnome-1,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread andrew
Quite by accident I checked the this on the web, rather than rely on the email. So I'll stand corrected on the detail of the bug, but send stuff about trisquel-devel to your inbox. We have much to learn from each other.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread tegskywalker
I also remember him having a fall out with the LMDE project early on.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-11 Thread tegskywalker
You are wrong. We don't own Trisquel as it is the copyrighted work of Ruben. Sure, we have the freedom to run, modify, and redistribute, but Trisquel uses packages from Ubuntu which in return is based off of Debian.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread forna
I think that the current look, the gtk theme is really beautiful. The icons in the indicator panel applet changed and now they have a modern look. Probably with an update of some other icons, of the default wallpaper and perhaps the panel's default color, Trisquel 7 will be really perfect.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread lloyd
Ok, I guess that is a benefit. But really, does anyone actually run a system with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread davesamcdxv
RAM is cheaper, but if you've got an old PC lying at home and don't know how to fit a new one or just have got more of a desire to look for a low-resource OS than to actually go to a computer store.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread davesamcdxv
You know, if Trisquel is so concerned about Accessibility I think it's a bit of a waste that the main site doesn't market it as such.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread mikko . viinamaki
This is a good point. The word accessability doesn't currently appear on the front page.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread adel . afzal
We don't have much about accessibility in the documentation either

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread davesamcdxv
Actually, to be fair, nothing on the front page really promotes Trisquel. The closest thing to it is the description that Trisquel is a fully free operating system which I'd find uninteresting were it not for my interest in going fully free. I reckon it'd be more attractive if the front

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread davesamcdxv
I think Cinnamon would be better. Or GNOME Shell but make it RHEL's-Distrowatch-screenshot-esque (Or GNOME Classic but perhaps with the panel on top, Cairo-dock on the bottom setup). Vanilla GNOME Shell would take new users for too much of a spin, I think. Though if Trisquel puts a welcome

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread legimet . calc
I think Triskel is basically abandoned. It's just a metapackage with no custom settings. If you install the triskel package, the package manager doesn't even work because polkit-kde-1 isn't installed. Also, until I submitted a patch, Abrowser looked really ugly in KDE with the default Oxygen

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread Andrew Lindley
The polkit-kde-1 thing was fixed in 6.0.1. I test installed Triskel 7 today. Some rough edges but it seems to have inherited pretty directly from Kubuntu this time e.g. Amarok is the default audio player and there's an empty cruft Firefox short cut in launcher favourites. IMO it's still

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-10 Thread dhunt
@davidnotcoulthard This is a good start on the new front page text. I like how you distinguish Trisquel from the proprietary alternatives with which folks are more familiar. It may need some work on distinguishing Trisquel from the other GNU/Linux distributions. Every distro's front page

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Care to post a few before and after screenshots?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread andrew
With Belenos still being in alpha I execpt the theme has yet to be completed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread onpon4
I think it looks the same as Trisquel 6.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Lindley
Oh good! I'm perfectly happy with that, and IIRC Linux Action Show described it as 'one of the best Gnome 3s we've seen.' YMMV.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread davesamcdxv
Netinstall? I prefer debootstrapping :) Having said that I think it'd be great if Cinnamion is the default DE in Trisquel, just open up a new repository for trisquel (other than edition, edition-updates, and edition-security) and title it belenos-Cinnamon! As for hardware acceleration I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread andrew
What's it like for Accessibility?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread davesamcdxv
Considering MATE's and Trisquel's GNOME 2 past, I doubt that'd be a problem.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread davesamcdxv
The GTK+ theme there was supposed to show Trisquel ('s current default theme) - Unfortunately it got covered in the screenshot by a menu. Oh, and the shot actually shows Trisquel Dagda.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread kepeken
I think the beauty is important too, because it can show to new people that a truly free system can be wonderful in a glance. Although is important to worry about desktop environments that require too much memory: many people outside Europe and North America still have computers from five

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread tegskywalker
You can do software. I have an Nvidia card that works with free drivers and has 3D acceleration, so this isn't a problem: http://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/232/NVIDIA-Corporation-GF108--GeForce-GT-430---rev-a1-

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread andrew
Their new function (applets, panels, docks etc) would have to have it enabled/coded in. Gnome 3 had a special fundraiser annd year of accessibility. Accessibilty is one of Rubén's key factors when he decides. Support from ATI/AMD users with no hardware 3D is another. However, as I've

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread onpon4
I still think Trisquel should use GNOME Shell by default and offer LXDE (Trisquel Mini) for those who want a lightweight system. The big reason GNOME is being used is accessibility, right? Wouldn't GNOME Shell be better for that? I guess it might be just knowing how to use it, but it seems

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread andrew
There are such things as laptops with AMD/ATI GPUs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread icarolongo
I prefer GNOME Classic Mode from 3.8+ than Cinammon. RHEL 7 uses GNOME 3.8 Classic by default: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Screenshot_rhel7-gnome_2014-06-11_17_06_46.png

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread dhunt
@onpon4 I think the main reason GNOME is still used is the accessibility. GNOME Shell's accessibility is much improved since version 3.4 (as in Trisquel6), so, Shell with llvm pipe, or something, for accelleration should, perhaps, be the new default. Shell is slow, especially with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-09 Thread retro
I like the default desktop, at least after I've changed the background image to one matching my screen resolution. It's clear, clean and simple. I don't like Windows-like eye candy being added to cinnamon. It serves no useful purpose.

[Trisquel-users] Default desktop in 7 still looks horrible

2014-07-08 Thread tegskywalker
I tried out the recent build of Trisquel 7 today, and the default desktop environment looks very amateur. The panels look outdated and the default fonts are ugly to look at. You figured that things could get better than 6 considering the new libraries, but Ruben either doesn't care or

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default Desktop?

2011-04-21 Thread cs091770
i tried but i had an error. while installing the trisquel all were good, but when i restart my pc it stack in the grub.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default Desktop?

2011-04-21 Thread lcerf
What is the error?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default Desktop?

2011-04-20 Thread George Standish
On 20/04/11 07:17 PM, cs091...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I am new to forum and would like to ask if it is Gnome or maybe KDE in this picture. Thanks... https://trisquel.info/files/slaine.jpeg That would be Gnome that is pictured. George

Re: [Trisquel-users] Default Desktop?

2011-04-20 Thread lcerf
The default desktop of Debian 6.0 (Squeeze) is Gnome 2.30, which is almost the same as Gnome 2.32. However Debian GNU/Linux does not customize much the desktop. Here is the its default look after a fresh install. Of course you could tune it to make it look just like Trisquel's. However why