Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-09-03 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Well, it's precisely because of the advantages of copyleft for the end user that it's important to keep it, even if the license doesn't prevent digital handcuffs (lock down). In *my* opinion, it would also be benefical if Linux switches to GNU GPL 3+. However, this is a wild and *personal* guess.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-22 Thread jadedml
Tivoization is a problem, for sure-- but as it stands, LineageOS and AplineLinux developers (etc) only have to work around the hardware/software restrictions on flashing a new kernel. Having to work against those *and* now even having the kernel, ports like that will be very difficult and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-22 Thread gpast_panama
I largely agree- with Torvald's refusal to add legal weight to his license, the significance of copyleft in this case seems to be rather limited (although I'm no copyright lawyer- please correct any misconceptions displayed here). On the other hand, using Linux may at least lead/bind

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-21 Thread greatgnu
Moglen is a king. That vid you linked is highly recommended. +1

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-21 Thread happy_gnu
How? Is not like Fuchsia is proprietary software. It is not like GPv2 prevents Tivotization of devices. And Smartphones are not libre at all. So... What is there to be lost?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, Fuchsia isn't a good thing, the loss of copyleft in smartphones (even if today not fully compliant) could represent a real loss for free/libre software movement. -- - [[https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno]] - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-15 Thread csh
Fuchsia is NOT a good thing. Eben Moglen talked about it at LibrePlanet. https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-free-software-movement-in-the-age-of-trump/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-11 Thread gpast_panama
Unfortunately, the installation instructions reveal on re-reading that there isn't a replacement. Step 5 of https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/master/docs/targets/rpi3.md#Installing requires downloading a 'bootcode.bin' file from the Raspberry Pi firmware repository on GitHub and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-11 Thread gpast_panama
If so, that would be amazing! Let's hope this turns out to be what is needed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-11 Thread polaris
I'm fairly certain there's a replacement included in Fuchsia. I saw something about a free booting firmware as well. I'm home now with my RPi3 right in front of me, so I'll read the documentation, give it a shot and then post my findings here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-11 Thread gpast_panama
It looks promising! Unfortunately, though, the kernel isn't the problem (as far as I know, anyway) that prevents the RPi from even booting with 100% free software: it's the boot-up firmware that has to be loaded before the kernel. This is beyond the OS's control, and as far as I can tell is

[Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-11 Thread polaris
You may have heard about Google's new kernel, Magenta. I recently saw a blog post about it running on the RPi3, and I was curious to see if it was blobbed to hell like the Linux kernel for the same hardware. To my surprise, it doesn't appear to be, and the only things that aren't working are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-08-11 Thread polaris
My bad, that's the documentation page... This is what I meant to link: https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/magenta