Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-23 Thread bobandrew
> The only exception to this rule is Abrowser, which is the only package in Trisquel with a rolling release cycle. Indeed, Abrowser now appears to be the main source of unexpected changes. The default start page configuration keeps changing with new versions, usually at the very moment

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-20 Thread bobandrew
Thanks for the suggestion, this is certainly what I would do back in the times when I used to install parallel beta versions of all the stuff you mention, play with it, break it, restore it or fail to restore it, report bugs, break the MBR, restore it, bring the laptop back to its owner and

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-20 Thread behmen
Couldn't you do a full backup of the machine, then later restore from said backup? Ideally backing up just before you 'sudo apt upgrade' Personally 90+ percent of files that I wish to save, such as video or pictures, I back up separately. Since those files have nothing to do with the

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-19 Thread bobandrew
I see. Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. I think I started keeping the security updates as the only enabled repository when I noticed some unwanted changes on Gnome Video (Totem). Nothing major at the time, I must admit, but still a useful option* which was removed. This

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-19 Thread mason
I think you are making this more complicated than it needs to be. Package managers like Guix and Pacman have robust rollback capabilities because they are designed for rolling distributions, in which a routine update is likely to cause a regression. For a stable distribution you should be

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-19 Thread bobandrew
Thanks, this confirms my doubts: there is no way to save the state of the system and to unroll back to that state after upgrading. Thank you also for hinting to the log files. I am now a bit confused about the proper terminology, though. As mentioned abobe, I was referring to the operation

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-18 Thread bobandrew
I mean the state of the system as defined by the package versions, which is what gets modified by an upgrade, I suppose.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-18 Thread mason
What do you mean by "configuration"? An upgrade will never override user configuration files in your home directory, and should only override system-wide configuration files in /etc after asking you for confirmation. Are you referring to something else?

[Trisquel-users] How to save a configuration before upgrades?

2020-04-18 Thread bobandrew
I usually turn off non-security upgrades as soon as the current OS version has reached its maturity, both in terms of how stable it has got and how used to it I have grown, because unstable or unwanted behavior is most often not easy to trace to individual upgrades. Is there a way to store