Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-03-01 Thread andyprough
> I downloaded the latest apk and installed in my tablet. It opens but when actually trying to create a new file it stops responding. It could be that the android version I am using is too old for this, but I couldn't get it to work with either a word or spreadsheet document. I installed a

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-03-01 Thread gnuser
I downloaded the latest apk and installed in my tablet. It opens but when actually trying to create a new file it stops responding. It could be that the android version I am using is too old for this, but I couldn't get it to work with either a word or spreadsheet document. Thanks anyway,

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-28 Thread andyprough
> I've just taken a look at libreoffice.org and found that Collabora just released an officially "supported" editor for Android and iOS. I'm looking forward to F-Droid version of Callabora Office, since Google Play is inaccessible from China. This morning I emailed the lead developer,

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-28 Thread xliang9550
Sorry for the confusion. I meant to say that OnlyOffice on smart phone/tablet may lack the editing functionality, so the arm version seems to be implemented as SaaSS. I've just taken a look at libreoffice.org and found that Collabora just released an officially "supported" editor for

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-27 Thread andyprough
> It's very likely that Google Play doesn't endorse free/libre software There's a large amount of GPL'd software in Google Play. Many of the titles on F-Droid are also on Google Play. You may be thinking of the Apple store, they may have such a restriction. > OnlyOffice has made several

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-27 Thread xliang9550
It's very likely that Google Play doesn't endorse free/libre software, just like Rotten Apple app store and Microsoft Losedows store. In order to make OnlyOffice endorsed by Google Play, the developers had to make a non-free version (see "selling exceptions" article by RMS). OnlyOffice has

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-27 Thread andyprough
> I was convinced that ONLYOFFICE was a online solution only. But in this page (https://www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx) they also offer downloadable versions for all operating systems. The OnlyOffice desktop editors are licensed under GNU AGPL v3, and will run completely offline.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-26 Thread gnuser
I was convinced that ONLYOFFICE was a online solution only. But in this page (https://www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx) they also offer downloadable versions for all operating systems. I suppose that means one could install it on Trisquel in place of LO, if there was a reason for it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-26 Thread andyprough
> We have a guide on LibrePlanet wiki on how to navigate back to that type of life, but in style, and with fewer drawbacks than when it was common to not have a mobile phone. That's a good guide to going no-phone, Caleb. It could really be expanded into a book, and would make for an

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-26 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
Wow, Caleb, this link is awesome. I find it's truly hard to find such guidance from any other party other than FSF. Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-25 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 2/25/20 4:50 AM, vas19...@ya.ru wrote: > Do you replace smartphone with something else? > I can't imagine my life without a smartphone. People lived excellent lives in the modern world without them, just a decade or so ago. We have a guide on LibrePlanet wiki on how to navigate back to that

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-25 Thread vas1980i
Do you replace smartphone with something else? I can't imagine my life without a smartphone.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-23 Thread xliang9550
There is a "pre-alpha", experimental build of LibreOffice for Android (via F-Droid), but far from being usable. However, if you want to create or edit documents (text, spreadsheet, presentation) efficiently, you may also need an OTG hub, a keyboard and a mouse. To make the editing

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-02-23 Thread gnuser
Given that there is no Office Suite for Android that is Free Software (other than LO Viewer, which is barebones and not functional in all devices), what would be your position regarding OnlyOffice, for using it in Android? Thanks for the input. Also anyone else who has tried it, any feedback

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-27 Thread hi
Your approach is incorrect and perverted (no offence). Sending file in _standard_ Open Document format is all right, decent and respectful. It should be even an imperative if you believe in and respect freedom in communication. You are not forcing anyone to anything when you send a file in

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-27 Thread xliang9550
So you have manually installed latest LibreOffice from terminal. If you run "soffice" from terminal, which version of LibreOffice is started? It's also possible to launch Writer, Calc, and Impress by commands "lowriter", "localc", or "loimpress", respectively. No version number is

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-26 Thread lcerf
Yes, the menu contains launchers. I guess KDE has a utility to edit the menu and you could see with it what is the command that is executed when you click on "LibreOffice 6.3". Otherwise, you may find the launcher (a .desktop file) in ~/.local/share/applications. That is: in the folder

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-26 Thread ark
It is available on the Trisquel 9 backports repository. Cheers!

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-26 Thread behmen
I have been testing out KDE Plasma so I may have the incorrect terminology but the application runner 'K' and after that clicking 'Applications', then 'Office' and the 'LibreOffice 6.3' that I had installed shows there. A splash image saying LibreOffice 6 shows for a second then it's window

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-25 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
What xliang said was true. I have a long article I name it "Support Open Document Format" presenting several the importance of ODF, why we all should avoid OOXML, danger of software patents, and many references & organizations that support ODF too. you can read here

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-25 Thread xliang9550
Starting version 2007, Microsoft Office should be able to handle ODF files, although it always try to persuade users to convert them to Microsoft's "open" format. Using free software and free formats allows users to publish their works to everyone, because only free/open formats are

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-25 Thread behmen
For the case currently I do not know. I sent him ODF files once and he was "unable" to open them. I am publishing in .docx still, I adapted and don't use certain features like the floating text-boxes because often they are distorted or moved.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-25 Thread behmen
"Then still send him the ODF files, until he learns to handle ODF files correctly." I would love to, but he's my uncle and I can't really be that way with him. I'm not a professor or anything I don't have that clout. An MIT-Professor and Father of Free Software Stallman can by all means

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-25 Thread behmen
Not an error per se, it says it's not installed. I removed the original libreoffice suite from my machine, then installed the 6.3 version. In the application launcher it says 'libreoffice 6.3' whereas before it was just 'libreoffice'. Replace office with whichever program. I cannot find

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-22 Thread vas1980i
Where I live, they only accept OOXML files as well. What a shame.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-21 Thread xliang9550
Before the doomsday, fight it. This shows that we are not willing to accept our doom. This also adds some bitterness to our enemy's victory.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-20 Thread Caleb Herbert
I really don't know what to say with regards to using OOXML for work, when I have to run a lot of proprietary JavaScript just to find and apply for a job. We're doomed. <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-20 Thread andyprough
Can you try to start writer from the command line? Use this command: $ lowriter Do you get any error messages?

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-20 Thread xliang9550
According to my experience, the copy of LibreOffice pre-installed by the GNU/Linux distribution and the copy manually installed by the user can co-exist, since they are installed to different locations. I didn't experience serious conflicts between them.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-20 Thread xliang9550
I've checked OnlyOffice's license. It's server and desktop client use AGPL v3, so it's barely acceptable. However, do keep in mind that OnlyOffice is implemented as SaaSS, which has serious freedom and privacy (and maybe also security) issues, even if the server and client are free

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-20 Thread xliang9550
First explain politely to him why it is bad to use proprietary formats like OOXML. (To do so, you probably also need to explain why OOXML is not a free/open format, and how did Microsoft get OOXML approved by ISO as an "open" format.) If he wouldn't listen, then still send him ODF files,

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-20 Thread behmen
When I installed LO 6, it shows up in the applications menu and when I click it it launches however after seeing the libreoffice splash image it never opens the word processor.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread andyprough
Oh goodness. Yes definitely get on the latest LO. Go to the LO site, download the deb version for your architecture, extract the resulting tar.gz file, change directory into the resulting LibreOffice folder and then into the DEBS folder, and run this command: sudo apt install *.deb Or if

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread Ade Malsasa Akbar
Freely as in freedom licensed office suite I know other than LibreOffice are Calligra Suite (https://www.calligra.org) and ONLYOFFICE (https://www.onlyoffice.com). Still, I recommend LibreOffice for you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread behmen
Oh wow. I am on libreoffice 5, how did you update with Trisquel?

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread ark
Maybe use the latest release of LibreOffice?

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread andyprough
OnlyOffice can usually do it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread leoo
What possible reason does your recipient have for supposedly needing the document you send him to be in .docx? Why not just send it to him in Open Document Format (.odt)? MS Office can open, edit, and save to ODF formats - no need other than freedom (which is of course huge but set the

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-19 Thread behmen
Thanks. I really can't help it the person that I'm sending the translation to needs it in .docx and he needs to be able to edit it through word. I did, in fairness, try and convince him to use libreoffice. He just wouldn't budge. I can already save in .docx thats not a problem, but perhaps

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-18 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 1/18/20 5:48 PM, beh...@protonmail.com wrote: > Alternatively does anyone know how to make LibreOffice more compatible > where the receiving end is Microsoft Word? LibreOffice follows the DOCX definition more strictly than Word does, ironically. Microsoft diverges from its own standard on

[Trisquel-users] LibreOffice Alternative

2020-01-18 Thread behmen
Hi everyone I'm doing some translations and need to send with a .docx extension however even though I save by choosing .docx the formatting is messed up and the person I'm sending it to has to delete extra spaces and tabs where there should be none. Alternatively does anyone know how to