Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-19 Thread onpon4
Oh, just some silly people who think that systemd being the default has somehow caused Debian to be infected, or something. Don't worry about it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-19 Thread taiji_tao
Agreed, if you want to run Debian no real reason for the linux libre kernel, unless you want a newer feature of that kernel. Just do not use the non-free and contrib repos. Cannot recommend Devuan yet, as it is still loosely organized.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-19 Thread moxalt
Indeed. In 2011's Debian Squeeze, they removed all blobs from the Debian distribution of the kernel. It is (as far as I can gather) effectively Linux-libre. If you want to run a free Debian system, only enable the main repository (this is the default), and you'll be safe. **I only joined

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-19 Thread moxalt
PS. What is the point of Devuan? It's ostensibly Debian with sysvinit as opposed to systemd, but I don't really see the point. Debian comes packaged with all three init systems (as of 8.1); you can choose which to activate (admittedly, after install).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread gnula
Many thanks, Magic Banana, for your detailed reply :-) Things are clearer to me now. I thought Ubuntu had a way to always tweak Debian packages that didn't make things easy for outer developers. I knew Debian Linux was free yet I thought there was still some difference with Linux Libre.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread tomlukeywood
When I run vrms, I can't find any non free stuff. But is vrms reliable? it will detect if a debian package installed on your system is free or not but it wont detect everything say if you had a non-free program that was stored in your home directory As far as freedom is concerned, I was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread legimet . calc
Ubuntu does not add freedom issues in Debian's packages. Well, it actually does for the kernel packages but Trisquel's kernel is cooked from Linux-libre's code (a GNU subproject). Actually, Trisquel takes Ubuntu's kernel packages and runs the Linux-libre deblob scripts on them. So

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread davesamcdxv
You mean former oldstable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread greatgnu
Yes. Debian is by default 100% libre (it has been since Debian 6). The kernel is deblobbed. Yes. You can install the jxself's kernel in Debian. In fact I am using 3.10.80 in Debian 8 stable Xfce and everything works flawlessly. I get all the updates. I have an ati crap and recent kernels

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread legimet . calc
Now oldoldstable.

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel Linux Libre and Debian Linux

2015-06-18 Thread gnula
I've used Trisquel on and off. I liked Trisquel 4 very much. Not so sure about Trisquel 7 though. The LXDE version at least doesn't seem as polished as it used to be but I see that I can use Trisquel 6 for a long time yet and I'll give it a go. I've been using Debian Wheezy and enjoyed