Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-09 Thread msuzuqi
It is a challenge or a nightmare for more than 99% musicians rather than an advice. Similarly, Cezanne is nightmare for more than 99% painters. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79geSY9jQLQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0bkJYQdCSQ

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-08 Thread strypey
MSuzuqi wrote: "But I have thought that it is difficult for me to translate that since my English skill." Your understanding of written English seems pretty good to me. As long as you can understand the English text that needs translating, I'm sure you'd do a great job of expressing its

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-08 Thread Mason Hock
> I am interest in translating of course. It seems fun. But I have > thought that it is difficult for me to translate that since my > English skill. How comfortable do you feel with understanding the English documentation yourself? For example, this page:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-08 Thread msuzuqi
Thanks. It cleared my questions some degree. But I can think that testing and reporting are very important and helpful works, but I also want a something gaudy and jolly work like a festival which we all can join and excites us..., if can. Though just using Trisquel excited me. I am

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-07 Thread Mason Hock
> so the delay forced to > basing Trisquel 8 on Ubuntu 16.04. Not exactly. Trisquel 8 was always going to be based on 16.04. It just took longer than usual. Trisquel 9 was always going to be based on 18.04, which is why development of Trisquel 9 can't begin until 18.04 is released later this

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-07 Thread msuzuqi
I see. Thanks. So am I understand to that: •Trisquel 8 was delayed unexpectedly reason (I understand lacking manpower and Mr. Ruben was worked at FSF are main reason), so the delay forced to basing Trisquel 8 on Ubuntu 16.04. (Releasing Trisquel 8 which is based on Ubuntu 18.04 before

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-07 Thread Mason Hock
> But I wonder to seem that > discussion stopped on the way in spite of not having a valuable and > reasonable conclusion. You are somewhat new to the forum, so you may not realize that this discussion has been had many times already. I think many of us would find it boring to continue to have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-07 Thread msuzuqi
After all, does anyone give me a brief easy conclusion? I cannot understand which assertion is more reasonable. I am a begginer, but, >since Trisquel 8 is based on an almost 2 year old system. sounds strange. That's understandable. I mean, why does it be based on 2 year old system? might be a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread calmstorm
So icedove isn't at all bloated? I use iceweasel with a few addons, noscript being an obvious one of them given that it is like giving the tank armor part of that which is firefox. Or in my case iceweasel. Hyperbola has iceweasel package that is hardened which I use. ;) ps, emulation can

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread greatgnu
>The only thing I use my system that is not lightweight is my web browser, email client, and sometimes emulation of sorts including dosbox. Browser (Firefox) is the only bloat here (if we don't count the TorBB that is). Light software FTW \o/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread calmstorm
Okay, its not really mature to thumb up your own post. Or to downvote everyone you disagree with. but yeah... you just make yourself look silly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread calmstorm
I just like the idea of a stable, secure, lightweight os. The only thing I use my system that is not lightweight is my web browser, email client, and sometimes emulation of sorts including dosbox.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread greatgnu
Come on.. Deblobbed Buguntu 8 will be ready in a year or so.. What's the hurry? After all it's only been 700 days since it's base came out :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread radiowavers
> They say they are speeding up its development speeding up: snail speed --> turtle speed?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread radiowavers
> 18.04 will be Trisquel 9 When? XXII century?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread radiowavers
Nope, it is quite useful - this thread is raising the awareness. Trisquel is in a deep trouble, and to get out of this situation 1st of all we should admit this trouble and don't bury head in the sand

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-17 Thread radiowavers
Even if you'll give a small donation of a million dollars to Trisquel, it will still be deep behind the Ubuntu. I'm seeing so many +100 euro donations but its' just a waste of money and despite all these donation there is still no Trisquel 8. Donation is an investment, and in this case its'

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread alonivtsan
loldier, I agree with t3g that it might be better to prioritize the release of Trisquel 9 over releasing both Trisquel 8 and Trisquel 9, since Trisquel 8 is based on an almost 2 year old system. Since Ubuntu LTS releases are supported for 5 years, Trisquel does not need to offer all the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread calmstorm
Magicbanana, sorry, but I hate to say, I find this entertaining... although utterly stupid and pointless. And yes, unproductive in many different ways.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread calmstorm
Yes, this! "if you need more up to date software libraries and packages in the meantime you can try the stable Hyperbola distribution (based on Arch with Debian patches but not a rolling release)" t3g should try this idea. Although, encryption is a little trickier, but meh, better than

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread calmstorm
Yes Jxself, I bet he couldn't fork Trisquel anymore than I could. That's kind of what the first post I made was trying to say, albeit very sarcasticly. I usually don't see you get this steamed ever... He must have really crossed the line huh... Welp, somehow I am not surprised that t3g

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread calmstorm
Use jxself's linux-libre-lts package. And you can have another way to boot the system if need be. Just a thought.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread enduzzer
What exactly are you agreeing on? Everybody with half a brain "agrees" that T8 is late. That goes without saying. It doesn't follow that the OP is right about much anything. He's been complaining about it, we know about it and there's nothing more to do about it. I use T8 on my HP

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-15 Thread alonivtsan
I agree with t3g that Trisquel should be based on an up to date version of Ubuntu, so that it will be compatible with new software and libraries (without requiring messing around with unofficial repositories). t3g, if you need more up to date software libraries and packages in the meantime

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread Caleb Herbert
onp...@riseup.net wrote .. > Or they could finish the Trisquel 8 release and then start work on Trisquel > 9... > > Seems perfectly reasonable to me, given how close Trisquel 8 is to a release. That's what they're trying to do. I suggested it, and I got gung ho about getting into Trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread Mason Hock
t3g is half right, jxself. Your time and energy is too valuable to waste on this pointless thread. Thanks for all that you do, and ignore the haters. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread jason
Why don't you also help with getting a free software OS out the door? Your complaining messages don't motivate people to help, don't help the new version come any faster, and if anything is a distraction.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread onpon4
Or they could finish the Trisquel 8 release and then start work on Trisquel 9... Seems perfectly reasonable to me, given how close Trisquel 8 is to a release.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread tegskywalker
How about you spend less time attacking people personally and more getting a free software OS out the door?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread jason
t3g, if you came to the Freedom Fridays meetings you would not be saying these things. You don't even show up to the meetings on IRC and instead sit on the sidelines and complain. 18.04 will be Trisquel 9.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread calmstorm
Yes t3g because criticizing someones hard work when you do nothing to contribute is totally a good way to show you care. Yes this totally moves Ruben to want to work harder. Indeed, feel free to flame him as much as you want. I am sure that will make him work harder. And I am sure that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread calmstorm
Yep, this thread is kind of useless.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick
Wow this is really not helpful. Don't forget you are emailing a list of volunteers, your not returning a broken toaster at Walmart. For what it is worth, I am very grateful for all the hard work that has gone into Trisquel. It's been grate for my business and home! Wish I was in a better

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-03-14 Thread tegskywalker
Trisquel 8 isn't fully out and its based on the soon to be 2 year old Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. At this point, it may be wise for the Trisquel team to start fresh with concentrating on the newer Ubuntu 18.04 code when it releases in April 2018. I hate to have seen this project die out and these