Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-27 Thread edwardtfht8
I successfully installed new kernel and guess what? Our old dream to have  
bitmask-vpn work on Trisquel came true.


All past errors including problem with ip6tables with bitmask/riseup on  
Trisquel happened to be kernel-related. Now with latest kernel bitmask-vpn  
built from source went smooth and worked great. I tested it only on Trisquel  
9 because it is bionic. Now we have riseup networks!


As for resolv... it seems Trisquel 9 has some real problem with it because  
does not matter how I manipulate with extra DNS, I hardly get any internet.  
It shows "can't resolv" errors all the time. I just caught several minutes  
after reboot that I had some internet still and quickly got the kernel. There  
are times I can not even update from etonia. Trisquel.info is not blocked in  
my country, nor is libre-kernel. Seems it is not just problem with netbooks -  
any of my books has unstable internet after I upgraded to Trisquel 9. Even if  
I try to put DNS manually into Network Settings, they do not work. Please  
help.


I will share the performance on my new CPU when I test it.

Thanks everyone for advise!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-25 Thread xliang9550
Theoretically any x86 CPU (starting Pentium Pro or Pentium II/Celeron) should  
work. The problem is GPU. Stay away from any AMD card, or NVidia card newer  
than 2nd generation of Maxwell architecture (GM2xx). GTX750Ti (GM107-based)  
is recommended.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-25 Thread jason

In APT look at the first error message, not the last.

The "repository does not contain a Release file" only came up because it  
could not download the Release file after the earlier error message:


 Could not resolve 'linux-libre.gnulinux.si'

So that is the *real* error. It sounds like there is a DNS or other  
networking problem going on.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-25 Thread edwardtfht8

Thank you very much.

I have a question about the kernel.

When I try to update from repositories mentioned in  
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/ in Trisquel 9, it says "repository does not  
contain a Release file". I tried


both txt

deb mirror://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/mirrors.txt freesh  
main


and all of them

deb https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/linux-libre/ freesh main
deb https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/linux-libre/ freesh main
deb https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/ freesh main
deb http://linux-libre.gnulinux.si/ freesh main
deb http://ftp.linux.org.tr/linux-libre/ freesh main
deb https://mirror.linux.pizza/linux-libre/ freesh main
deb ftp://ftp.linuxliber.md/ freesh main
deb ftp://ftp.linuxliber.ro/ freesh main
deb https://mirror.uta.edu.ec/linux-libre/ freesh main

And this is what I got:

Err:11 http://linux-libre.gnulinux.si freesh InRelease
  Could not resolve 'linux-libre.gnulinux.si'
Ign:12 http://ftp.linux.org.tr/linux-libre freesh InRelease
Err:13 http://ftp.linux.org.tr/linux-libre freesh Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 193.140.98.183 80]
Err:14 https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/linux-libre freesh InRelease
  Could not resolve 'mirror.cyberbits.eu'
Err:15 ftp://ftp.linuxliber.md freesh InRelease
  Could not resolve 'ftp.linuxliber.md'
Err:16 ftp://ftp.linuxliber.ro freesh InRelease
  Could not resolve 'ftp.linuxliber.ro'
Err:17 https://mirror.uta.edu.ec/linux-libre freesh InRelease
  Could not resolve 'mirror.uta.edu.ec'
Err:18 https://mirror.linux.pizza/linux-libre freesh InRelease
  Could not resolve 'mirror.linux.pizza'
Ign:19 https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/linux-libre freesh InRelease
Err:20 https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/linux-libre freesh Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 201.159.221.67 443]
Ign:21 https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre freesh InRelease
Err:22 https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre freesh Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 209.51.188.54 443]
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'http://ftp.linux.org.tr/linux-libre freesh Release' does  
not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore  
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration  
details.
E: The repository 'https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/linux-libre freesh Release'  
does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore  
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration  
details.
E: The repository 'https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre freesh  
Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore  
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration  
details.


Is there any instruction to build new kernel from source? Or do I do  
something wrong?


One more question please. If I do all heavy job in guests, do I need to  
install new kernel in both host and all guests? Or only in guests or only in  
host? (Xen technology) I ask because since I wish Trisquel 9 in host, I can  
use for example Arch or Gentoo in one of the guests with their new kernels.  
Or will guest new kernel also fail if host is old kernel?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-24 Thread publiclewdness
Well the gaming system does and doesn't, the GPU doesn't so far. I'm hoping  
if I can get the latest Linux libre kernel installed it may help with that  
but i'm not holding my breath.


As for GPUs to recommend with an AMD CPU I would say the Nvidia GT 710 or 730  
as they are cheap and work with Trisquel. No AMD GPUs I have tested so far  
work with Trisquel. I have tried my 5700 XT; RX 580; an R7 370 and an old  
HD4350 and all are not recognized properly. Intel GPUs or the 700 series  
Nvidia cards seem to be the best bets so far for newer cards working with  
libre kernels. You don't even have to endure lack of wifi if you didn't want  
to as places like Think Penguin and Technoethical sell wifi adapters and  
cards that work with the libre kernel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-24 Thread edwardtfht8

Thanks very much for the answers.

Glad to hear that a gaming computer works with free software.

Unfortunately I have no physical access to free hardware such as System76 and  
related. Even weak hardware I now use is non-free. I just deemed ADM Ryzen a  
less of two evils in this regard, but I may mistake. So what I am looking for  
is gigabyte Ethernet, nested virtualization, clear desktop performance, I can  
endure lack of wifi, I don't need games, so no need in fancy video card,  
instead I need CPU for mass calculations and heavy software being built and  
tested all the time on many virtual machines at once (at once because these  
machines will interact with each other). So I am going to organize something  
like Qubes on my desktop. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-24 Thread Zelphir Kaltstahl
Hi Edward!

I think I'll have to be a party pooper for a bit.

There is no CPU without unfree parts or requiring unfree parts, which
has comparable to the CPUs you mentioned performance. At least that is
what I read.

The reason is, that the manufacturers and developers of newer CPUs put
in unfree stuff and make it very hard for anyone to liberate any modern
hardware.

However, if you do not care as much about the hardware, but only about
the OS and software, you might have a chance. I'll leave that part for
others to answer, who are more knowledgeable than I.

Regards,
Zelphir

On 6/24/20 9:30 PM, trisquel-users-requ...@listas.trisquel.info wrote:
> Hello.
>
> First of all, thanks all developers here for Trisquel 9. GREAT system with a  
> lot of potential. I successfully built from source new golang version 1.14,  
> newest version of Codelite (fantastic!!! recommended). And a lot of other  
> wonderful things. Java works really great.
>
> I going to buy new powerful desktop for job. My work is connected to a lot of 
>  
> mathematical calculations, that needs a lot of power, 64+ RAM because a lot  
> of virtual machines with different OS for testing this heavy programs. And I  
> am absolute devotee of completely free software and I wish to fully own my  
> OS. So no proprietary firmware on host OS (windows and related crap only with 
>  
> nested virtualization in disposable guests).
>
> I have a choice between AMD Ryzen 3700 8 cores/16 threads and intel i7 9700 8 
>  
> cores. But I have doubt especially with Ryzen. Do any of you have these or  
> any other new powerful CPUs for job or any new Ryzen at all  working with any 
>  
> free OS? Does it work on it not demanding any proprietary firmware to boot?  
> Does it access internet via Ethernet without a problem?(i agree to sacrifice  
> wifi, but I need stable working Ethernet). Do any of you have any success  
> with any powerful modern maths orientated CPU with your OS?
>
> Please share your experiences. I am literally looking for powerful machine  
> working with free software. Thank you.
>
> I heard some here talking about AMD Ryzen 8 cores / 16 threads and probably  
> had to rebuilt linux-libre 5.7 for it. How does it work now? Are you success? 
>  
> Is it true that Ryzen 8/16 demands linux-libre 5.7? Or does Trisquel's 4.15  
> kernel work?
> https://trisquel.info/en/forum/new-member-who-needs-helpadvise#comment-138279
>
> Right now I tested Trisquel on some weak laptops and i can tell, netbooks  
> have problems with Ethernet in Trisquel 9 (even Mini). It is unstable. I  
> would ask ethtool to be preinstalled in Mini because it can save situation  
> and you can't install it since you can't access repo. (Wifi just does not  
> exist since all wifi demands proprietary crap, that's why Ethernet is my last 
>  
> hope). I wish specifically Trisquel 9 because etiona has newer software than  
> flidas.
>
> Unfortunately such things as "free hardware with Trisquel and coreboot  
> preinstalled" does not exist in my country. These companies you all buy your  
> free hardware from do not ship here at all.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-24 Thread publiclewdness
I have a Ryzen 2600X on a Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming motherboard that I  
can say boots into Trisquel 8.0 and 9.0 and the ethernet works. I haven't  
really tested it much further as my GPU in that system doesn't work with  
Trisquel (AMD 5700 XT). This testing was doen on stock kernels so with 4.4  
and 4.15. There is a possibility that performance may be affected as certain  
featurs of the CPU amy not work on a libre kernel but it's hard to say what  
at this point. I will do some more testing with my Ryzen 2600X and report  
back.


[Trisquel-users] Which CPU does work with Trisquel?

2020-06-24 Thread edwardtfht8

Hello.

First of all, thanks all developers here for Trisquel 9. GREAT system with a  
lot of potential. I successfully built from source new golang version 1.14,  
newest version of Codelite (fantastic!!! recommended). And a lot of other  
wonderful things. Java works really great.


I going to buy new powerful desktop for job. My work is connected to a lot of  
mathematical calculations, that needs a lot of power, 64+ RAM because a lot  
of virtual machines with different OS for testing this heavy programs. And I  
am absolute devotee of completely free software and I wish to fully own my  
OS. So no proprietary firmware on host OS (windows and related crap only with  
nested virtualization in disposable guests).


I have a choice between AMD Ryzen 3700 8 cores/16 threads and intel i7 9700 8  
cores. But I have doubt especially with Ryzen. Do any of you have these or  
any other new powerful CPUs for job or any new Ryzen at all  working with any  
free OS? Does it work on it not demanding any proprietary firmware to boot?  
Does it access internet via Ethernet without a problem?(i agree to sacrifice  
wifi, but I need stable working Ethernet). Do any of you have any success  
with any powerful modern maths orientated CPU with your OS?


Please share your experiences. I am literally looking for powerful machine  
working with free software. Thank you.


I heard some here talking about AMD Ryzen 8 cores / 16 threads and probably  
had to rebuilt linux-libre 5.7 for it. How does it work now? Are you success?  
Is it true that Ryzen 8/16 demands linux-libre 5.7? Or does Trisquel's 4.15  
kernel work?

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/new-member-who-needs-helpadvise#comment-138279

Right now I tested Trisquel on some weak laptops and i can tell, netbooks  
have problems with Ethernet in Trisquel 9 (even Mini). It is unstable. I  
would ask ethtool to be preinstalled in Mini because it can save situation  
and you can't install it since you can't access repo. (Wifi just does not  
exist since all wifi demands proprietary crap, that's why Ethernet is my last  
hope). I wish specifically Trisquel 9 because etiona has newer software than  
flidas.


Unfortunately such things as "free hardware with Trisquel and coreboot  
preinstalled" does not exist in my country. These companies you all buy your  
free hardware from do not ship here at all.