Re: [Trisquel-users] Extended-Term Support

2018-02-02 Thread jason
You can also think of it as being a form of change control: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_control

Re: [Trisquel-users] Extended-Term Support

2018-02-02 Thread jason
Newer versions do more than just bug fixes and provide security updates: They also introduce new functionality. Anything is fair game once Linus Torvalds opens the merge window at kernel.org for people to send in their changes for the next major kernel release. The concern is that adding in

[Trisquel-users] Re : Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread lcerf
I don't know what your programming experience is but your expectations of efficiency are contrary to the basic programming principle: that a program should use only as much memory as it actually needs for completing the task and that memory usage should be optimized. You can often get a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread onpon4
> your expectations of efficiency are contrary to the basic programming principle: that a program should use only as much memory as it actually needs for completing the task and that memory usage should be optimized. That is only a "basic programming principle" if RAM is scarce. RAM is not

Re: [Trisquel-users] news about eoma68?

2018-02-02 Thread jason
There is an update! https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/fosdem-2018-shakti-project-tape-out-nearly-done-2-7-5-eoma68-a20-pcbs

[Trisquel-users] Re : Problems with startup on Trisquel

2018-02-02 Thread lcerf
Your display manager, LightDM, fails to start. There is probably something interesting written in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread studio
Resources are always scarce (limited) and should be used responsibly. You need free RAM for handling new processes and peak loads. RAM is not sequential in the sense that it is like a rewinding tape but: you can't pass the whole RAM through the CPU in a single CPU clock. There is the

[Trisquel-users] Re : Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread lcerf
Resources are always scarce (limited) and should be used responsibly. They are always limited. They are not always scarce. In the case of memory, as long as you do not reach the (limited) amount of RAM you have, there is is no penalty. And by using more memory, a program can be made

Re: [Trisquel-users] Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread onpon4
> Python is an interpreted language and you don't know how the interpreter handles the data internally. https://github.com/python/cpython

Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question

2018-02-02 Thread Caleb Herbert
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread shiretoko
Thank you both, MB and Onpon for the interesting elaboration on this whole "lightweight program" topic. Though I already knew the underlying principles, I never actively thought about what "lightweight" actually means. But I guess the discussion is just wasting your time from here on...

[Trisquel-users] Re : Web Browser

2018-02-02 Thread lcerf
Here is a small AWK program that processes the output of the previous script: #!/usr/bin/awk -f BEGIN { FS = "\t" } { val = "" for (i = 2; i = NF) { print "user_pref(\"" $1 "\", " val ");" } } It does the same as https://github.com/jm42/compare-user.js, i.e., "adds a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread studio
> They are always limited. They are not always scarce. Scarce means restricted in quantity. Of course they are always scarce, you don't have unrestricted amount of anything. Once again you are arguing for the sake of it. The space-time trade-off has absolutely nothing to do with where all

[Trisquel-users] Re : Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread lcerf
Scarce means restricted in quantity. No, it does not. It means "insufficient to satisfy the need or demand": http://www.dictionary.com/browse/scarce When your system does not swap, the amount of RAM is sufficient to satisfy the need or demand. There is no scarcity of RAM. One more time

Re: [Trisquel-users] Unsubscribe, please.

2018-02-02 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
First, thank you very much for your forever lasting kindness. Your messages in both the Trisquel forums/mailing lists and in IRC are very pleasing to read. Just to clarify, I got somewhat confused in the first time I saw your request to unsubscribe, because from the friendly display name in my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Lightweight Browser

2018-02-02 Thread studio
> The point is that if you can spare RAM, ideally, you should be using all of it. In a perfect world, the programs you're running would use every byte of RAM available and then release it to new programs as they launch. We of course don't live in a perfect world, so some inefficiency (i.e.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-02-02 Thread studio
> Install icecat and linux-libre's RPM, and you're good to go! IceCat seems to be just a rebranded Firefox inheriting all the FF's privacy issues, so I wouldn't say it is a "good to go" thing without meticulous fine tuning: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/web-browser?page=4#comment-127390

Re: [Trisquel-users] Extended-Term Support

2018-02-02 Thread svenerik_vn
I don't quite understand. I mean.. isn't new versions of Linux-libre released to fix bugs etc? In that sense it is logical to always upgrade to the newest release?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant (unofficially) at FOSDEM '18

2018-02-02 Thread amuza
Hey, I will also be around. I may have some free time on Saturday evening.