The campaign is over, and they reach the 71% of their goal. They seem to be
very pleased with the results. I was very glad to participate. Thank Chris
for sharing this info.
I'm pretty impressed with the results. $43,000 USD may not be ideal although
it is basically enough to cover a full time developer for a year. It's not
exactly going to pay a seasoned developer although it should be enough to
cover someone at the entry level. Think internship + first year
@t3g, you are hilarious!
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Le 12-10-31 09:04 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com a écrit :
Update:
First of all, we currently have campaign matching of ten thousand
dollars! That means that until we hit $25k, things are currently
doubled. Once we hit that, we jump from
Great to hear!
There is only one day left and we're only 65% there.
$38,735 of $60,000 has been raised.
If you have any more to spare (or anybody else does) please contribute now!
This is our last week! And exciting times it is... for one thing,
we hit the 10k matching grant!
From the media goblin team
Nice to know :D More can be done but it is a good start (if we can call this
a start).
It is getting to its mark. I don't know if it will hit the $60,000 USD or
not although it has gotten to $36,000 USD. Only one week left! If you haven't
donated do it now. If you can spare $200 USD you'll get a chance to win
tickets to pycon.
Save up!
It's not really that important you donate to this cause in particular. There
are lots of worthy causes that are underfunded. I've donated significantly
more than I probably should have.
Some of the projects I'm a big fan of you could donate to:
Trisquel:
Badly needs the money if
The problem is that those projects are hard to find. I mean, I know the first
3 because of my search (and my old support for Humble Indie Bundle).
I just don't understand why the FSF website is so... well... oldie... I mean
they adapted the Funding part to support a better funding for
There could definitely be more focus on fund raising for free software by
projects themselves. It's something I'm passionate about and I think that we
(at ThinkPenguin) are on a good way to raising significant amounts for free
software projects. I just to remember to keep going on the other
I matched that amount, but it was the day before they announced the 1:1
scheme. It's kind of disappointing to see a noble project like mediagoblin
somewhat struggle with the donations, but see plenty of ludicrous projects on
kickstarter get 100K in donations in a matter of a couple of weeks.
I am sure that this problem is (also) due to the amount they ask. I remember
when I tried to donate. To start they only showed the 15$ as a minimum (which
I didn't have). Then I searched myself for a way to donate other values (I
had 1$ at that time, not much but still), and when I tried to
One other solution would be Kickstarter (if they are in the USA or in
the UK) or IndieGogo (this could appeal more people indeed. Even
myself wouldn't know about the project if it wasn't by this post).
http://dustycloud.org/blog/mediagoblin-campaign explain why it isn't
being done via
Update:
First of all, we currently have campaign matching of ten thousand
dollars! That means that until we hit $25k, things are currently
doubled. Once we hit that, we jump from $25k-$35k... like magic!
(Chris Webber @ MediaGoblin)
I just threw in another $100 USD:
mediagoblin looks great, i think i might go for the t-shirt.
but about me using it: will the following make sense?
i have an old laptop with pentiumIV or older. i would install trisquelminiand
make it into some sort of web server for a media goblin web page. the
computer might die or need to
I love MongoDB and use it for all my sites when I can. I believe they dual
license it and offer a commercial license if needed. They also offer
professional support services to keep the lights on. Very cool project with
excellent language support.
Only time I use MySQL is when I absolutely
This with webODF integration would be just beautiful :D I don't have money to
donate, but I hope they get the expected funding goal so that I could give
them donations in the future (and using it of course :D).
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I also found this article interesting:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/24/open_source_entrepreneurship/
This is a member of OSI you are citing. This is their position. If he said
the sun was a square, he'd have a right to that position. But the rest of
us wouldn't. Would you?
What response do you expect?
We don't like nonfree software. We don't think it should exist. That's why we
use a completely free distro, Trisquel, and not other distros like Ubuntu or
Linux Mint or even Fedora.
Knowing this, how do you expect to convince anyone here that a decision is
I'll be blunt with you in saying that the rights of the developer and user
should both be respected and not just the user. It is true that GPL code
forces contribution of source code and can benefit the developer if that is
their angle. No one should be forced by a license written by an
This does create confusion for some people because while the LGPL is a
copyleft license, it allows it to be used in proprietary software as long as
the LGPL stays respected. Looking back, do you think Stallman and the FSF
regret having the LGPL as an option?
The LGPL is there for certain strategic purposes, as you should already know.
There is no reason to regret its existence.
В 22:41 +0200 на 17.10.2012 (ср), tegskywal...@hotmail.com написа:
Looking back, do you think Stallman and the FSF
regret having the LGPL as an option?
Kind of. [1] The LGPL is not recommended/ not encouraged for new code
and libraries. [1] As the article/essay it is a matter of strategy.
This is largely a free software community. The open source guys who care more
about function than ethics are using distros like Ubuntu and Linux Mint. You
should know this.
You should also know that we free software supporters *don't want*
proprietary software developers to develop
My thoughts are more with libraries being permissive and able to be used with
any software regardless if free or not. Recently in Firefox 15 and above,
there was a native HTML5 PDF reader integrated (PDF.js) that was under a
permissive license meaning it doesn't conflict with the Mozilla
Did you just ignore everything I said? Firefox being able to use that program
is good. Crome and IE being able to use that program is bad. This isn't
difficult to understand.
When people ask how can I make money off of GPL software the response
usually lies with the option of making custom software for a client or still
trying to sell it even though the program is offered for free and the source
code is made available according to the rules of the GPL.
So if a
You're talking about people making free software nonfree like it's a good
thing. Apparently you forgot about the whole purpose of copyleft: to give
free software an advantage and discourage the development of nonfree software
by making it more complicated (they have to start from scratch,
В 01:12 +0200 на 15.10.2012 (пн), tegskywal...@hotmail.com написа:
I know it used to be dual licensed, but there is a reason why libraries like
jQuery stick with a MIT license. They know the library is one of the most
popular and don't want the developers that use it to have legal issues.
Just ask how *BSDs are doing.
В 21:10 +0200 на 15.10.2012 (пн), moil...@gmail.com написа:
Just ask how *BSDs are doing.
How? No, seriously I don't get the exact meaning of your comment.
Please, elaborate. Thanks.
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Last time I heard they are not doing so good. GNU/Linux has been all the rage
at least 12 years or more.
Let me cite on of my sources:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/project-management/legal-considerations-when-using-free-software-in-it-consulting-projects/1363
Some of you think I pull most of this out of my behind, but I do research
before these posts. I also try to get sources from a non
Your taking things out of context. I don't know if you are completely failing
at reading comprehension or just being selective of what you want hear.
If you are developing custom software for a company and utilizing GPL code
the company you've distributed the code and program to is under no
El 15/10/12 15:35, tegskywal...@hotmail.com escribió:
Let me cite on of my sources:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/project-management/legal-considerations-when-using-free-software-in-it-consulting-projects/1363
Some of you think I pull most of this out of my behind, but I do
research before
I might be thinking of the wrong project/organization then. In any case I
know one of them does. I thought it was GNU although maybe it was FSF, GNOME,
or one of the others. one of them does require copyright assignment for
everything. At least that is provided my memory serves me right.
Thank you for the answer.
I Didn't remembered about LGPL to be honest.
But the original content could still loose this audience even being GPL'ed at
100%, it is a matter of what is done by the forker, or am I wrong :S ?
I feel like I'm repeating myself, but a more permissive license allows
everyone to contribute. You say there is the worry that it gets too big and a
company will fork and make a proprietary version. The reality is that its too
much work to maintain a.fork of that size and they will rather
Will consider it a feature that AGPL does not allow slavers and hoarders
to contribute and use it for my future projects. Who else does it not
allow to contribute?
There are big companies maintaining forks or rewriting whole projects to
avoid the GPL version 3. Making their work harder while
I agree with you on this one. We need to spread the Free Software Word around
the World, but we can't force people, so we might just play their games,
and because of this, we need to be a little bit permissive with the license
of some components (but not going outside of the Free Software
I also saw in section 5 of the Elance contract at
https://www.elance.com/p/legal/services-agreement-between-client-and-contractor.pdf
that they forbid you not use GPL code as a contractor working with a client.
They don't want to be held liable for copyleft code that could force the
client
I never saw that O_o... :
Background Technology.
Contractor will disclose any Background Technology which Contractor proposes
to use or incorporate in connection with performance of its services to
Client. If Contractor discloses no Background Technology, Contractor warrants
that it will
Yes I know about that xD
This actually makes sense. The GNU project doesn't accept contributions
without the assignment of copyright either. That's essentially is all this is
saying. This may not be in the companies best interest although there are
good reasons to have such clauses.
Nice idea :D I would like to contribute but I only have 1,09$ on Paypal, and
since the minimum is 2$ I will have to wait a little bit :S...
It is good to see this, really ! At the opposite as we see in non-free
software projects, there is a really solidarity and everyone helps everyone
in
Yea. GNU Media Goblin means they are a officially part of the GNU project.
On 12/10/12 22:27, Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross wrote:
I think so or at least there providing support. You can find out. It's
probably on there mailing list.
On 12/10/12 22:24, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote:
Did the
Trisquel is independent of the FSF just like ThinkPenguin is independent of
Trisquel. On the other hand there are relationships between FSF, Trisquel,
ThinkPenguin, and other projects/companies. Even Ubuntu, a distribution with
non-free enables Trisquel.
Trisquel does comply with FSF
The problem with Media Goblin is that due to it having a GPL license (AGPL
v3), it may not get the adoption it needs on a bigger scale with being used
by big organizations in addition to a community. Apache 2.0 would have been a
more wise option.
You should give more of an explanation.
pah I'll see about that. My biz in one sentence is a decent digital
video distributor. bye bye netflik, *rents, Amazon,etc. :) need to have
something to show. I am currently planing to use media goblin if it gets
bigger ought.
On 12/10/12 23:43, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote:
The problem
I (mostly) understand the idea of a Game Maker to use BSD or MIT license for
the libraries that will be used for the creation of the game letting all the
rest be GPLv3 (for example), giving the choice for uses to choose the license
they want for their final product (even if this allows
Yes, while I'm sure your right about his intentions there are different free
software licenses and the FSF does recommend different ones. The one he
mentions is the Apache 2 license and it is compatible with AGPL v3. Of course
that doesn't mean he is right although without more info...
I
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