Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-19 Thread dooleyn
Thank you for correcting me. I am not very familiar with dpkg and did not  
appreciate this point.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-18 Thread g . smyli

I have these entries in .bashrc

LANG="en_US.utf8"
export LANG

export  
INFOPATH="/home/gsmyli_tr8/.guix-profile/share/info${INFOPATH:+:}$INFOPATH"

export PATH="$HOME/.guix-profile/bin:$HOME/.guix-profile/sbin:${PATH}"

export GUIX_LOCPATH="$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/locale"

I also ran:
localectl list-locales
sudo locale-gen en_US
sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
sudo update-locale

So far, still "Invalid argument"

Thanks, I'll seek help at
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/help/

Since guix did get me hexchat maybe I'll try using #guix channel on  
irc.freenode.net.




Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-18 Thread dooleyn
So it seems you have installed the glibc-locales. You also have the smaller  
glibc-utf8-locales package as well so perhaps they is a conflict between the  
two. This seems unlikely though. Can you also double check you have set the  
GUIX-LOCPATH environment correctly? Otherwise, I'm at a loss so you may want  
to seek help on the help-guix mailing list.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-18 Thread dooleyn
The method described by ADFENO is the correct method to achieve this. Thanks  
ADFENO.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I'm not sure how GNOME works, but perhaps we must restart your current
user seesion for the icons to take effect. Simply go to the applications
menu (the one with Trisquel logo), and go to "close/end session" this
will close all your current applications, so make sure to save things or
to have your documents edited through applications like GNU Screen and
GNU Emacs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread g . smyli

ADFENO, thank you for those instructions, here is a summary of what I did.
My install of Flidas did not have a .local/share/icons directory so I added  
the step to make it.


**Installing brasero via guix package with goal of getting it into the main  
menu.**


cd ~/.local/share
mkdir icons

guix package -i adwaita-icon-theme
guix package -i hicolor-icon-theme

cd icons
ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/Adwaita"
ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/hicolor"

guix package -i brasero

cd ~/.local/share/applications
ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/applications/brasero.desktop"

After these steps I saw an entry for Brasero in the 'Sound and Video' section  
of Main Menu but the icon was generic. It sort of looks like a square piece  
of black film with the lower right corner curled up. I used doolio's tip:  
Control Center > Main Menu > Sound and Video > Brasero > (left click)  
Properties > and click on the icon upper right corner > and navigated to  
~/.local/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/brasero.png > Open and the icon  
showed up in the Control Center > Main Menu dialog. It did not show up in the  
actual Main Menu but after I rebooted, it was there. And clicking on it  
brings up Brasero so all is good for Brasero.


It seems like Control Center > Appearance should list the Adwaita Theme but  
it does not. It seems like selection of an appropriate icon should be  
automatic (and now after a reboot maybe it will be, I'll look for another  
package from the guix packages to install).


Thanks again for you guidance, it has been a big help. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I forgot to continue writting:

In this later case of misbehaving .desktop file, it's often needed to
*copy* the .desktop file that is made available in the Guix profile of
the current user, and modify it for your needes. When done, perhaps you
can send a git/unified patch to Guix project so that they apply your
modifications (and you also get the chance to put your copyright holder
line in the relevant files, so you can participate in some decision
making and license compliance enforcement in the future, if you so desire).


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
* Why somethings are missing?

Guix is managed *per-user* , so one must do most things per-user
depending on what must be done. Of course, somethings aren't needed,
e.g.: Installing graphical programs or icon themes for root user
(because root user doesn't really use these that much).

* Regarding missing icons

Install "adwaita-icon-theme" and "hicolor-icon-theme" from Guix, then
make a symbolic link to the resulting "Adwaita" and "hicolor"
directories (that are inside the user's Guix profile), like so:

(Note: remember to use `ln` with the `-s`/`--symbolic` option, and keep
paths relative so that things are easier to move around to other
computers or users, that is, remember to use the the triple "../" shown
here).

$ cd ".local/share/icons"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/Adwaita"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/icons/hicolor"

* Missing application launchers in the menu

After installing an application, their .desktop files (application
launchers) are available in "$GUIX_PROFILE/share/applications".

For example, suppose I just installed GnuCash and Icecat for my current
user, then I do:

$ cd ".local/share/applications"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/applications/gnucash.desktop"
$ ln -s "../../../.guix-profile/share/applications/icecat.desktop"

Some applications still don't have the .desktop file, or it's not doing
all that it's supposed to do (e.g.: *Suppose* VLC doesn't appear in the
"Open with" right-mouse menu when clicking on some files, then this
might be an issue with the vlc.desktop file, or with your user's "mime"*
files in the same directory (".local/share/applications") or in
"/usr/share/applications", or in some other place people knowledgeable
of customization might have to englighten us. ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread g . smyli

guix package -I
warning: failed to install locale: Invalid argument
gs-fonts8.11out 
/gnu/store/mh3mx042h5ayvg9mgmfln4kwvs102lzp-gs-fonts-8.11
font-dejavu 2.37out 
/gnu/store/8rid533v40vawypqqckxx6v30sc89yby-font-dejavu-2.37
font-gnu-freefont-ttf   20120503out 
/gnu/store/dl11724dj1z6dsw7i82jmavk75ixp0b8-font-gnu-freefont-ttf-20120503
glibc-utf8-locales  2.24out 
/gnu/store/bhj5xdwwd2dg770lmlks7hyny8vzjm9x-glibc-utf8-locales-2.24
glibc-locales   2.24out 
/gnu/store/hyi7svs0ds79wrcg5l0nr36zzjikqj7i-glibc-locales-2.24
emacs   25.1out /gnu/store/6l2fiqgj4g1018xkqn3mfyrj9r2zh9k6-emacs-25.1
alsa-modular-synth  2.1.2   out 
/gnu/store/0f4drni8gikx09sq1bfp4ymbvnarfa42-alsa-modular-synth-2.1.2
avidemux2.6.12  out 
/gnu/store/ajxz0h6i3h3809di9qf8n7hjzp8g3gkg-avidemux-2.6.12
extremetuxracer 0.7.4   out 
/gnu/store/i1rp7jy9frxivnqwmi3a8dz57jsmbqp7-extremetuxracer-0.7.4
ffmpeg  3.2.4   out /gnu/store/m8vd71axx8n6jbq8pdm8iqrn9qkvnb74-ffmpeg-3.2.4
folks   0.11.2  out /gnu/store/h7kpmcklpf1hpz4fiqln3m1sn0ni2jrs-folks-0.11.2
mysql   5.7.17  out /gnu/store/ylybbdz5xi8xvcvs4qanyjp047sg424a-mysql-5.7.17
tor 0.2.9.9 out /gnu/store/0p09qsfpyhscxp250wcsld9nbwkgdpzn-tor-0.2.9.9
sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8 out 
/gnu/store/xyyvrbkzb5331c7ggzqzsv90hrn40f7d-sound-theme-freedesktop-0.8



Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread dooleyn

Can you post the output of (as your normal user)

guix package -I


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread g . smyli

Good tip, avidemux is listed in the sound and video section. Cool.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread dooleyn
And if you want to add a menu item do so as in the attached screenshot. You  
can then add this to your desktop panel as well. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread g . smyli
Thanks, that worked. I thought I had done that as regular user but I guess  
not.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread dooleyn

Yes, as they work off different repositories and databases.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread dooleyn
Add the following to your .(bash)rc file. This will add the guix pacakages to  
your path and make them available via the command line. So you should just be  
able to type avidemux3_qt5 for example or 'avi then ' would probably be  
enough to find it too.



export PATH="$HOME/.guix-profile/bin:$HOME/.guix-profile/sbin:${PATH}"
export GUIX_LOCPATH=$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/locale


You are getting the error


warning: failed to install locale: Invalid argument


most likely because you installed the locale for the root user and not your  
normal user and/or you did not define the GUIX_LOCPATH environment variable.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread g . smyli
I have managed to get extremetuxracer and avidemux working via guix package.  
Cool!


I thought it might be good to post a 'how to' for guix on flidas. Would like  
to help out and unfortunately I am not a good programmer but could maybe add  
to documentation.


I do have some remaining issues however.

1. extremetuxracer and avidemux or any other fsf install comes without any  
icon or entry to my start menu. The programs also were not found as commands  
from the terminal.


I finally found I could get them running from the terminal like this:
/gnu/store/ajxz0h6i3h3809di9qf8n7hjzp8g3gkg-avidemux-2.6.12/bin/avidemux3_qt5

of course, this part, /gnu/store/ajxz0h6i3h3809di9qf8n7hjzp8g3gkg, is  
different for every program so it takes a little work to locate and create  
the actual path for the command.


This doesn't seem very user friendly. Am I missing something? It's not a deal  
breaker, will be fun to try to make my own icons and launchers, etc.


2. Maybe this is related, I don't know but I have tried multiple fixes for  
this warning and still I get this error:


$ guix pull
warning: failed to install locale: Invalid argument


ADFENO's point re authorizing substitutes was taken too late and first  
attempts to install emacs took hours and guix was filling up my partition.  
But I was able to add that step and after running the garbage collection  
command the situation seems better: /usr is 4.2 GB, /gnu is 3.1 GB and /var  
1.1 GB on a 25.5 GB partition.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Can I use both Guix and apt?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-15 Thread tomlukeywood

Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread alonivtsan
It's probably best also to get G++ in which case this command should do it if  
you want version 5 of GCC:


sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gcc gcc /usr/bin/gcc-5 100  
--slave /usr/bin/g++ g++ /usr/bin/g++-5


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
As a personal rule of thumb I run `guix pull` *before any* `guix package`
command that involves `-u`/`--upgrade` or `-i`/`--install` options. I do
this both for root and for normal users, but this is just my personal choice.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
First and foremost, you must decide if you will authorize your copy of
Guix to trust the default build/substitutes/derivations service provider
(that is, the Guix project itself), the installation guide you followed
explains how to trust the default substitutes service provider (at step
7), it's important that you follow that section if you don't want your
own computer to try to build the universe.

Also, there are other package recipe and substitutes service providers
around the world of course, but these you have to find and add by
yourself. As you have seen, Guix is package manager which allows the
user to add custom packages, custom repositories, and custom
substitutes.

And, of course, after doing step 7, do the following as root:

# guix pull

Then you can proceed to do as the guide tells, for example:

This finishes the root-user-level installation.

However, as you said: `guix package -i hello` doesn't do what you
expect, this means *both* of the two things:

1. You're trying to run guix as normal user.

2. The `guix` command wasn't made available by the root user to the
other users, so you must have skipped step 6.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn
No, the daemon is a service that allows you to interact with the guix package  
store (/gnu/store). It is responsible for building packages on behalf of  
users and for downloading pre-built binaries from authorized sources. I don't  
believe guix notifies you of updates plus I don't see a need for it to do so.  
It follows a rolling release model where the available packages are built  
daily I believe. To get the latest updates of the packages you install you  
have to execute:


guix pull

Note, this will initially install guix itself! So, you use guix to update  
guix. How often you run guix pull is a question I posed to the mailing list  
and the response was that it is based on your feelings wrt security and  
stability.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread alonivtsan
tomlukeywood, I think you need to tell your operating system to use the new  
GCC you installed. You can see here how to get GCC 4.9 working (just adjust  
the command after the installation of GCC 4.9 to the GCC of your choosing):


https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-twinkle-version-19-trisquel-7


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread g . smyli

Awesome.

It's still going.

I may have posted the link commands backwards as I was scrolling up the  
history in the shell and probably posted them in the reverse order.


What does the daemon do? Look for updates?
I guess I might try to reverse the process done choosing systemd or maybe I  
can set up a cron like script to get it going.


'So once the hello package under root installs check that it was successful  
by checking the list of installed packages with:


guix package 'I

Then you close that root terminal and use guix with your normal user  
account.'


I look forward to doing those steps.

I guess I might try to reverse the process done choosing systemd or maybe I  
can set up a cron like script to get it going.





Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn
haha, yes it does look that way. You should only need to install the glibc  
locales as your normal user. I did initially as root but then had to repeat  
it for my normal user account. In fact, I believe each unique user on the  
machine needs to install the glibc locales. So once the hello package under  
root installs check that it was successful by checking the list of installed  
packages with:


guix package 'I

Then you close that root terminal and use guix with your normal user account.  



Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread g . smyli

Thanks again doolio. But eeks, what have I done!

I saw running systemctl list-units:
guix-daemon.service   loaded active running   Build  
daemon for GNU Guix


so the daemon is running, I can just start it manually whenever I want it.

I did do the Build-Environment-Setup.

I tried a command
guix package -i glibc-locales
bash: guix: command not found

as sudo also same result.

I found the steps to make the command available and tried
guix package -i hello as root and now it's going nuts, looks like it's  
downloading the universe!




Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread tomlukeywood

I have installed GCC5 using this PPA but i get the same error message:
requires at least GCC 5.0 (found 4.8.5)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn

This may also help resolve your issue.

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/3010


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Regarding build users: As far as the documentation goes: The average
users need not to be members of the "guixbuild" group.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn
As I've explained I didn't encounter this error. If you run 'top' and search  
(CTL-L) for 'guix' do you see the guix-daemon running? If so then you've been  
successful in starting the daemon. Then I suggest you restart your machine  
and see if the daemon is running after booting up again by searching under  
top.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
In which order did you attempt to make the series of `ln` commands?

It seems you made it in inverse order.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Trisquel 7 doesn't use systemd entirely. It
does have Upstart instead (this is what I chose in the step that you
are right now).


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn
Yes, for that step I had to use the Upstart commands instead. It seems on  
Trisquel 7 at least the init system is Upstart and not systemd.



# ln -s ~root/.guix-profile/lib/upstart/system/guix-daemon.conf /etc/init/
# start guix-daemon


As for adding your user to the guix group that should have been handled by  
step 4 which linked to this page:


https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Build-Environment-Setup


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread g . smyli

Thanks for the confirmation. Really appreciate the help :)

So I did move it to /tmp and was able to proceed.

Now at step 5
I chose the 'If your host distro uses the systemd init system' option

I get:
systemctl start guix-daemon && systemctl enable guix-daemon
Failed to execute operation: Too many levels of symbolic links

I have created these links
ln -s ~root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service  
/etc/systemd/system/


ln -sf /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile   
~root/.guix-profile


Any ideas?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread g . smyli
Have question re  
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Binary-Installation


Step 2 As root, run:

# cd /tmp
# tar --warning=no-timestamp -xf \
 guix-binary-0.12.0.system.tar.xz
# mv var/guix /var/ && mv gnu /

and I get
tar: guix-binary-0.12.0.system.tar.xz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

Did the manual just forget to tell one to move the tarball to the /tmp  
directory?


I am trying this in Flidas.




Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn

Yes, it omitted that point.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn

Here you go. If anything is not clear feel free to ask.

https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Binary-Installation 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread sigdpsy

how can install guix package manager in trisquel



Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install GCC 6.3 on trisquel 7

2017-02-13 Thread dooleyn
Perhaps consider installing the Guix package manager. With it you can  
currently install any (or all) of gcc 4.7.4, 4.8.5, 4.9.4, 5.4.0, 6.3.0 (see  
link below) so it would be possible to use the gcc specifically required by  
your program. The Guix packages are based on a rolling release model so they  
should always have the latest version available for the packages they  
currently provide. Their list of packages is still small compared to those  
available in the Trisquel repositories but it is growing all the time. The  
other advantage is you can be confident they only provide free software  
packages and is a much better option that some random ppa. I've recently done  
a fresh install of Trisquel 7 and have been using Guix almost exclusively as  
my package manager. For anything it doesn't have I can always fall back to  
the Trisquel repositories.


https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/g.html