Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-06 Thread strypey
I fully agree with what Fbit wrote in their reply, especially the bit about  
being properly informed about *everything* being a fulltime job, and seldom  
worth your time. But I hope you don't mind if I add my 2 cents.


Firstly, as a general rule-of-thumb, the further news is published from where  
you live, the more it's contents are likely to be subject to propaganda (and  
the less likely they are to be directly useful to you). A neighbourhood  
newsletter produced by people in that neighbourhood will tend to be pretty  
reliable, because they are writing about things they have direct knowledge  
of. Traditional news conglomerates, whose audience is the population of a  
whole country or everyone in the world in a language group (eg all English  
speakers), are only as reliable as their sources. Also, they are a high  
priority target for propagandists of all kinds.


Secondly, as FBit says, when deciding how seriously to take the contents of  
an article, it's worth considering the motives of the writer and the  
publisher. In Aotearoa (NZ) where I come from, many of the so-called  
"community newspapers" are actually owned by the same company that owns and  
operates many of the daily newspapers in the major cities (Fairfax). The  
articles in these "local" newspapers are often slanted towards the interests  
of the corporations that advertise in the major dailies, and I treat them  
with much more scepticism than I would articles in a genuinely community-run  
newspaper.


With print publications and broadcast media, finding out who actually owns  
and operates them can require a bit of research. On the internet, finding the  
publisher of an article is often as easy as stripping the URL back to the  
domain name (eg stripping the URL of this page back to "trisquel.info"), and  
sometimes removing any subdomains (eg stripping layers.openembedded.org back  
to openembedded.org). Usually, an "about" page will give you some information  
about the publisher, and looking them up on sites like SourceWatch.org and  
PowerBase.info can reveal information they don't want you to know about their  
ownership and funding. More online research aids can be found here:

https://www.coactivate.org/projects/drillingfortruth/online-research-aids

Hope some of that is useful.


Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-04 Thread calmstorm

What MD is asking for is nearly impossible. Alas...

Although, most of the population is liberal if you think about it.  So...  
that to me says go for something that is liberal leaning.


Ignore anything though related to fox news or the sinclair broadcast group.

That's my stance. I say this because, extremism leads to the wide door.  
Moderation leads to the narrow door.


In usa, everything is so political that shouldn't be... such as the NRA and  
their crazy ass stance on guns... war being honorable is a conserative idea I  
get the feeling... lying. stealing, scandals, those last three used to apply  
to both sides equally...


But if you want my opinion listen to what people say, how they say it, and  
how often they are challenged.  This is always a good way to find the truth.


and last but not least, if you think both sides of the fence are equally bad  
in your country... look for what other countries say about the country your  
in.  Those are my thoughts. ps, this last option may take longer then you  
think.





Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-03 Thread fbits
I've sent you a private message with some suggestions. I am reluctant to  
share my political views in this forum as I might share technical interests  
with some yet live on disparate ends of the political spectrum. Best to keep  
things somewhat separate where possible. I would rather focus on free  
software (and the eventual off-topic discussion)


Publicly I will say that staying informed in a wide sense of the word can  
quickly become a full-time pursuit which I would advise against. Further, the  
news media is full of dirty practices. Perhaps it is wiser to stick to some  
narrow subjects than to try to get an overall picture of what's happening in  
the world. Dunno. Tough call. I do think that an informed multitude is  
essential. Difficult to say how exactly we should stay informed in an age of  
overinformation and dissinformation. I would say -- if you want to keep on  
the side of the disenfranchised -- listen to those who are most persecuted by  
the powerful, but even then, be skeptical and remember we all have personal  
interests, power corrupts,  et cetera.


Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-02 Thread jbahn

I fully agree with you, fbit.

May I ask you, where you harvest your news? My knowledge and imagination  
limit me to the guardian and the intercept, so I would be happy to expand my  
sources.


By the way, both the guardian and the intercept are apparently fairly ok when  
it comes to internet privacy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-01 Thread fbits
I'm not aware of GPL news media. Maybe Creative Commons works for you? If so,  
here is a list:


https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Journalism

As to "neutral news," I think that doesn't exist. What is neutral? Who  
decides? In my opinion, it is not possible to be free from ideology and  
remain functional. Perhaps it is precisely when we feel we are free from  
ideology that we are most deeply in it. Much better to try to gain  
consciousness of ideology, remember everyone perceives the world through  
their own. I would advise that it is better to understand the context,  
motivations, funding, goals, management and writers and pick a healthy mix of  
different view points. Read a news article and ask why _it_ was published as  
opposed to hundreds of other newsworthy happenings. Try to zoom out and  
understand the ecosystem under which it came about. Pick a media outlet and  
read about a topic you are knowledgeable about. Most of the time what you  
read will be disappoiting. Don't forget that and assume it is the same for  
subjects your are less knowledgeable about.


Read Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky's take on media. Understand how the mass  
media manufactures consent.


Sorry if it does not really answer your question.


Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-01 Thread jason
Wikinews is not licensed under the GPL though, which was one of their  
requirements.


Re: [Trisquel-users] News Media

2018-03-01 Thread enduzzer

Wikinews

https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page