Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-26 Thread ursmaritimus
Please do not mention this either, we had to send him half planet Cabbage  
before he accepted to even consider it. We do not hold it against him,  
though, he seems to have been quite trigger happy recently. Rumour has it  
that he managed to delete his own thread. The TLCDC is still inquiring about  
it so I cannot comment further.


We have a feeling you might have missed this post of ours, for some reasons  
it got both unduly indented:


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-9-etiona-0?page=1#comment-151656


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-26 Thread andyprough
I really missed you and all your best elaborated gags when Masaru banned you.  
It was really nice of him to un-ban you like that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-25 Thread ursmaritimus
By the way, we are keeping some of your ant bots prisoners until we have  
fully managed to reverse-engineer them. We might also test their resistance  
with some new powerful chemical. We will not torture them, though, it is  
useless now.


We can exchange them for a few of these giant cactuses you busted. Of course  
they are not ours but we have a deep interest in herbology, as you know.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-24 Thread andyprough

We have found that carpenter ants work better than a cactus.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-24 Thread ursmaritimus

Indeed. A long way from the secret giant cactus.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-24 Thread andyprough
Woah. That's some next level spycraft. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-23 Thread ursmaritimus

I have a feeling something is missing in your sentence.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-23 Thread gnii
I always make sure I have a super-secret anti-microform-functional-hologram  
of Mikey embedded in the html of this forum. Those are necessities for ruing  
stupid users who try to ruin stupid users or something.






Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-22 Thread ursmaritimus
I always have a secret microform copy of this forum. Those are necessities to  
rue stupid users or something.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-21 Thread msuzuqi
Shit, that's a troublesome issue. I think I have to create and spread a  
common useful English word such as motenai to discribe unpopular men ideally  
throughout the whole world then. I am going to paint one. Thank you anyway. I  
will search for the word to describe unpopular men in other languages too.
By the way, if you are "motemote", that means you are super popular with  
girls/women, you don't have to make so much an effort to undress girls  
because the women side undresses themselves, if I borrow Kenji Nakagami's  
cool expression again[1]. If you are said "kimoi" from girls, that means  
"creepy", you are physiologically unacceptable. I think the first step is to  
stop peeping or tracking or other creepy activities but it would be  
inherently impossible so there is no chance, unfortunately, for both. Shit,  
please do something.


[1] "The Thousands of Pleasure": chapter one "The Bird of Hanzou"
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%83%E5%B9%B4%E3%81%AE%E6%84%89%E6%A5%BD


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-20 Thread ursmaritimus
> I don't think there is a word today that is accepted throughout the society  
to describe unpopular boys.


If you are not philandering, people are not talking about you anyway.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-20 Thread andyprough
Young people today call boys who are not popular with girls "virgins" and  
boys who are popular with girls "Chads". The problem is that unless you are  
talking to a young internet user, old people would not understand.


When I was young, we called such unpopular boys "nerds". But then the nerds  
became the rich people, so they became very popular. So I don't think there  
is a word today that is accepted throughout the society to describe unpopular  
boys.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-20 Thread msuzuqi
I know that is an illusion. But there are some idiots who always watch their  
opportunity to visit my home and if I did not take the calls from them, they  
could visit my home while mumbling something incomprehensible words like "I  
was worried about you, so I came" or something. Die. Their purpose is to peep  
or blatantly stare at inside of my home you know and I really, really, from  
the bottom of my heart, want to break off relations with them but if you live  
in a society, it is hard to do that you know. So I need a mobile phone. If I  
could break off those all relations, I would not need such a Pinephone,  
really. Therefore, I want to know how to say the "men who are unpopular with  
girls" shortly in English. Surely, if I did not have a mobile phone, I would  
be able to live a very happier life you know. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-20 Thread ursmaritimus
> I am starting to think that Pinephone might be a necessity for me since I  
sometimes need a mobile phone to call.


That's an illusion put into your head by mobile phone manufacturers and  
service providers.


Billions of people lived a happy life for centuries without mobile phones.  
Most of them did not have internet either.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-20 Thread gnii

>Those are necessities for ruing stupid fish or something others.



Those are necessities for ruing stupid x or something others.


x > insert anything / has become my favorite sentence. I have been using it  
for days now and I am never getting tired of it. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-20 Thread msuzuqi

Sea lions...
By the way, I am going to avoid more off-topic here though, very sometimes I  
want to use the word "men who are not popular with girls/women". But it  
sounds too long isn't it? I have a lot of times searched how to say the words  
in English shortly but there seems not to be such an useful short adjective.  
Is there a good slung or something? In Japanese, there is. "Motenai" men  
means men who are not popular with girls. Moteru men means men who are  
popular with girls. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-19 Thread andyprough
You have to go on the It's a Small World puppet boat ride, it goes right  
through the middle of the giant Disney castle. Girlfriends like it more than  
Golden Gate Bridge, which is just a boring old bridge. It's not even really  
gold, kind of an old rusty greenish reddish coppery color. However, on the  
pier near the Golden Gate Bridge is very much fun - that's where the sea  
lions sun themselves. I will take you there.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-19 Thread msuzuqi
That's why I hate Yakuza. And you are misunderstanding. My kind of men enjoy  
to make a parade of our good-looking girl friends in line at Disneyland. I  
enjoy to see people pretending to talk while spreading spit or colona viruses  
or something or other at us, or old men touching my girlfriend's ass, of  
course unintentionally, or other any kind of original, kind of artistic  
malicious actions. Compared to the enjoyment, riding on a stupid machine in  
the Haunted Mansion or the Haunted Mansion, or the space ship is merely  
something like a giveaway. If I was obviously looked like a member of the  
Yakuza in the line, no one would show even a slight malice. That's boring. I  
go to the Golden Gate Bridge. Disneyland is fantasy but the bridge is real.  
However, I am starting to think that I might want to go to Disneyland. The  
last time I went TDL was more than 10 years ago... it were painful memories,  
I would write about it in Troll Lounge.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-19 Thread jbahn
Just want to confirm that chaosmonk's claim, that "installing a custom ROM on  
an Android phone is very easy." is true.


I have very little technical skills/knowledge and have done it several times.  
The first few times I did have to go a little back and forth in the process  
and instructions and occasionally an install fails. That said, it really is  
very easy. Go on with it!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-18 Thread andyprough

> I do not want to go to Disneyland with Yakuza

Yakuza never have to wait in line at Disneyland. They are the best people to  
go with.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-18 Thread behmen

Thats like the answer that people give about holistic medicine... lol


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-18 Thread msuzuqi
I do not want to go to Disneyland with Yakuza. Why Disneyland? I want to see  
the Golden Gate Bridge.
But Cape Canaveral is near. It might be a good idea to say good bye to them  
on our way home.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-18 Thread andyprough
No, the first thing I'm taking you to in America is Disneyland. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-18 Thread msuzuqi
I was wondering if you were cruising around the San Francisco Bay or  
somewhere for cruising for something bruising. If you got tired of fishing,  
or after a good catch, let's go to there. I definitely want to see the Golden  
Gate Bridge first if I visit the US. Definitely!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-18 Thread msuzuqi

I see. Thank you.
So I am going to use the iPhone for a while until I save money. I want a  
satellite phone. However, we will remodel the phone case so that the battery  
pack can be easily detached, ideally within 10 seconds. This is one of the  
iPhone's biggest drawbacks. Compared to this, the problem of the kill  
switches of Pinephone would be something like giving a kite an eggplant.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread mason

> What about using firejail? How much sandboxing security does that gain me?

Sorry, I don't know enough about it. It's should be better than nothing, as  
long as the sense of security it gives you doesn't lead you to take risks you  
otherwise wouldn't.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread andyprough

What about using firejail? How much sandboxing security does that gain me?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread andyprough

It's nice for fishing in my local lake.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread mason
> So there are no dependencies on those proprietary things, but the modem  
depends on proprietary firmware (or binary blobs?) inside of it?



Yes, notice that they say there there are no "OS-loaded binary blobs" not  
that there are no binary blobs at all.  This is often the case with hardware  
peripherals like monitors too.  Any device that has software running on it  
either comes with that software, or has that software provided by the OS.


> If so, what are the merits of the modem?

I don't know enough about what kinds of modems are available, so I don't know  
if this one is anything special or not.  It should work with Trisquel.


> Can I call with this X200 and Trisquel if I install the modem?

I think the way it would normally be used is to use cell towers for Internet  
access on a laptop, not necessarily to make calls.  It should be possible to  
make calls though, with the right software.  I'm not sure what that would be  
though.  There is a package called "modem-manager-gui" that might be useful.


Note that if you use one of these modems, it will allow your cell carrier to  
track you just like a cell phone modem.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread mason
Recommended reading regarding the security issue:   
https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2017/running-system-services-in-containers/


I think with a graphical frontend, Guix could be our best shot at solving  
this issue in a way that doesn't empower a freedom-hostile ecosystem like  
Snap or Flatpak.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread msuzuqi

I might understand.

Thinkpenguin's claim.

> Never worry about support after an upgrade: There are no dependencies on  
proprietary drivers, NDISWrapper, or other OS-loaded binary blobs.


So there are no dependencies on those proprietary things, but the modem  
depends on proprietary firmware (or binary blobs) inside of it?
If so, what are the merits of the modem? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread mason
>> I'm hanging out for future versions in which cameras will have a lense  
cover that users can manually slide clear


> That would be nice. I wonder how hard it would be to modify the back cover  
that way.


Oh sorry, I misread what you wrote.  I thought you were suggesting a sliding  
cover on the back panel in order to more easily access the kill switches.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread mason

> Thinkpenguin sells this modem.

>  
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/usb-4g-lte-advanced-modem-gnulinux-tpe-usb4glte


> Is not this modem proprietary?

There are two kinds of software used to support hardware devices: firmware  
and drivers.  A driver runs on your operating system and controls the device.  
 Firmware runs the device itself. Sometimes firmware needs to be provided by  
the operating system and loaded onto the device. For example, if you try to  
use most WiFi cards with Trisquel, they won't work because Trisquel doesn't  
have copies of the firmware for those cards.  However, sometimes the firmware  
is already installed on the computer inside the device, so the operating  
system does not need to provide it.  ThinkPenguin's modem works with Trisquel  
because the driver is free software, and the proprietary firmware is already  
on the device so Trisquel does not need to provide a copy of it.  There is  
still proprietary firmware on the device, just not provided by Trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread msuzuqi
> The one bit that is protected by law from being reverse engineered and run  
with free code.


Thinkpenguin sells this modem.

https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/usb-4g-lte-advanced-modem-gnulinux-tpe-usb4glte

Is not this modem proprietary?
If it is not a proprietary thing, can I replace the Pinephone's modem with  
this Sicnkpenguin's modem? But if it is not proprietary, why Pinephone uses  
the proprietary modem?


> I'm hanging out for future versions in which cameras will have a lense  
cover that users can manually slide clear


You can put a piece of tape or a sticker or something on the camera lenses.  
It seems to be pretty common in Serbia, but not in Japan though.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread mason
> Maybe, but the X60 is in China behind a closed border, and I am in  
Aotearoa.


Damn, that sucks.

> How does Goggle get any info from an Android device that has never had a  
Goggle account associated with it?


The OS.

> Yes, but the difference is that to use my SIM in the PP, I have to have its  
cell modem turned on. If I don't, I can leave it turned off, and that's one  
less piece of proprietary code in use on the device. The one bit that is  
protected by law from being reverse engineered and run with free code.


Why did you buy the Pinephone then?  The point of it is to be a phone.  It  
sounds like you should have bought a laptop.  For $300 you could have a *way*  
better computer than you'll get by plugging your PP into peripherals.  And if  
you're just using an Android device's modem instead of the Pinephone's modem  
you are no more private or free, probably less so.


> It doesn't appear so, and since I have no experience with replacing the OS  
on an Android device, I've been unwilling to risk a hack that *might* work  
(and might brick the device). Once I have the PP, I expect I'll have two  
Android devices I no longer depend on (I can put my NZ SIM in my Chinese Oppo  
with my Chinese SIM if I have to), so I might try some experiments.


Don't let Technoethical's prices fool you.  Installing a custom ROM on an  
Android phone is very easy.  You do need a compatible device though.  Don't  
try installing an incompatible ROM.


> I've heard this claim a few times. I've never seen any reason to believe  
it. ELI5


Linux and much of GNU are C.  C is not a memory-safe programming language,  
which means that things[1] can happen with memory that are not supposed to.   
For example, a program might use a chunk of memory and then stop using it,  
but those bytes are still there, and then a malicious program might access  
that same chunk of memory and use those bytes to do things.


Ideally programs would not be able to access each other's resources so that  
this would not happen, but Linux gives every process it runs the same  
permissions as the user that asks it to start the process, with no sandboxing  
in between them.  This is why running things as root is very dangerous, but  
even running things as normal user is somewhat dangerous.


For servers, this can be addressed by creating per-application users, where  
each user only has permission to run its application.  Security-critical  
server applications are often packaged this way.  Even on a desktop system,  
if you look at "/etc/passwd" to see a list of users on your system, you will  
probably see a bunch of usernames that are not yours and that you didn't  
create.  These are being used to run different processes in isolation.


However, users typically run desktop applications as themselves, so each  
application has permission to do anything that the user has permission to do.  
 This is not secure, although since there are not very many people using  
GNU/Linux as a desktop system it is not a very popular target to attack  
(unlike GNU/Linux servers, which are very common and very popular to attack,  
hence isolation between processes being taken more seriously for server  
applications).


Android uses the same kernel as GNU/Linux, but is also used by many people  
and is popular to attack, and it has something called an "app store", which  
is kind of like a distro's repository, if your distro were a terrible  
cesspool of proprietary malware, so it implements isolation of applications  
be design.  You know how you can go into Android's settings and give  
different applications permission to do certain things, like access certain  
files and or your camera or microphone? Have you ever wondered why Trisquel  
doesn't have something like that in its settings?  It's because all  
applications run with the same permissions as the user that runs them, so  
they only way to prevent them from accessing something is to remove your own  
access (keep those files on another medium, put tape over your camera, etc).


There are some works in progress to implement sandboxing for desktop  
GNU/Linux.  Flatpak and Snap have some basic sandboxing.  Whonix appears to  
be working on something[2] that will make it easy to run desktop applications  
as separate users the way server applications often are.  Guix has a very  
cool containers feature.  But there isn't yet a user-friendly, secure, and  
adopted sandboxing mechanism for GNU/Linux like there is for Android.


Does that mean the Pinephone is bad? No, it is what it purports to be: an  
inexpensive, hackable phone capable of running GNU/Linux with the minimal  
amount of proprietary crap needed to have a decent smartphone (the modem,  
since modems have to be non-free, and WiFi, since the WiFi cards with free  
firmware would quickly drain a phone's battery). Unlike Purism, Pine64 has  
not claimed to be security-focused. Hopefully by the time mobile or desktop  
GNU/Linux 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread strypey

Chaosmonk:
> It's good enough for simple things like SMS, but don't expect to get any  
serious work done on it. It probably will not perform better than your  
netbook


I expect that it will perform much better than this netbook:
https://git.feneas.org/disintermedia/public-wiki/-/wikis/Bishop

Especially given all the physical aches and pains the poor thing has. The  
battery is down to 20% capacity (according to Trisquel), the mains power is  
loose and often falls out, the headphone socket no longer works reliably, and  
the WiFi becomes unreliable when the devices is used for longer than a few  
minutes at at time (I suspect due to heat). I maxed out the RAM to 2GB, but  
the Convergence edition of the PP has 3GB. I'd be very surprised if even the  
weakest modern processor isn't more powerful than a 32-bit 1.6 Ghz Atom, even  
a dual core.


> and certainly not better than your X60.

Maybe, but the X60 is in China behind a closed border, and I am in Aotearoa.  
So it was either the PinePhone or buying a used laptop for NZ$100-200, which  
I'll then have no use for when we return to China. For NZ$300 I get a mobile  
device I can use with peripherals, which is what I do with laptops when I  
have a stable studio space anyway.


> This will be the same whether your use the Pinephone's modem or the Android  
device's modem.


Yes, but the difference is that to use my SIM in the PP, I have to have its  
cell modem turned on. If I don't, I can leave it turned off, and that's one  
less piece of proprietary code in use on the device. The one bit that is  
protected by law from being reverse engineered and run with free code.


> However, adding an Android device into adds an additional attack vector:  
now Google gets has all that information too, plus a little bit more, which  
an additional govt (USA) will have pretty easy access too.


How does Goggle get any info from an Android device that has never had a  
Goggle account associated with it?


> Are any of your Android devices supported by any ungoogled Android ROMS?

It doesn't appear so, and since I have no experience with replacing the OS on  
an Android device, I've been unwilling to risk a hack that *might* work (and  
might brick the device). Once I have the PP, I expect I'll have two Android  
devices I no longer depend on (I can put my NZ SIM in my Chinese Oppo with my  
Chinese SIM if I have to), so I might try some experiments.


> That would make those devices a better option, more secure overall than the  
Pinephone


I've heard this claim a few times. I've never seen any reason to believe it.  
ELI5


> Pinephone has the advantage that you can use the hardware switch to disable  
the modem sometimes


I was initially excited by this, but it seems that with the initial models  
you have to take the back off the device to get at these switches, which  
makes them almost useless. I'm hanging out for future versions in which  
cameras will have a lense cover that users can  manually slide clear when  
they want to use the cameras, and the mic,  cell modem, WiFi, GPS, and  
Bluetooth, will also have hardware switches under an easily opened panel, on  
the outside of the device.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-17 Thread msuzuqi

For what?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-16 Thread behmen
I've been thinking perhaps splurging on a really big SD card, then doing some  
of the things mentioned in Calher's thread like offline Wiki,Books,Music,TED  
talks etc.. whatever reasonably fits. Keeping the phone offline mode  
--generally-- and switching it on when I need to make calls, but this  
strategy might fail because people will not be able to reach me. I'm not too  
keen on this.


Geolocation + Call records + Internet history are the only attack vectors  
from the government I can see for an active SIM pinephone. I suppose VPN or  
tor use could mitigate the internet logging and DNS records kept. Since  
3-point triangulation is how other phones communicate with yours I don't see  
any way of avoiding geolocation vector without burners. Call records could be  
mitigated by using an encrypted online-call system, all free of course.


About what you said on threat models, I realize that the Gov is inevitable  
because they not only have the resources but also they have the willpower and  
very many attack vectors including cell + internet companies but also google  
and apple and perhaps so many more, so preventing government tracking  
completely would be to go offline permanently. I don't wish to do this but I  
have been thinking of continuing to carry my iPhone without a sim, connecting  
to a wifi hotspot from the pinephone. Only for circumstances in which I would  
require non-free stuff. That way anything that the iPhone wants to  
communicate out-- can get caught in a firewall on the pinephone.


I'm also a pragmatist in that, if in a moment I need a working phone in  
haste, I would not hesitate to swap out the sim from the pinephone to donate  
to the iPhone or any iphone nearby really. I'm thinking in the event that it  
crashes.


Any suggestions? I already ordered one :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-16 Thread andyprough
I usually keep a secret one-man nuclear submarine. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-16 Thread mason
> I'm hoping that with a set of peripherals (screen, mouse, keyboard) it will  
be able to replace my ancient netbook as my work computer


Dont get your hopes up.  Pine64 kept the cost of the device down in part by  
not going with a faster computer than they needed.  It's good enough for  
simple things like SMS, but don't expect to get any serious work done on it.   
It probably will not perform better than your netbook, and certainly not  
better than your X60.


> That said, I'm also considering turning off the cell modem in the PinePhone  
and using it as a small tablet, and keeping one of the Androids for cell  
calls and texts. Since the cell modem is a proprietary black box by law,  
those comms are inherently compromised, and it seems a shame to have the  
nonfree cell modem software in the PinePhone running when I don't need to.


What is your threat model?  For an average threat model, the attack vector  
allowed by using the modem is that your cell carrier can track your location  
and metadata for your phone calls and texts, and that your government can  
probably get that information from the carrier pretty easily if they want to  
(I'm not familiar with the laws in NZ, but in the US the govt doesn't even  
need a warrant to do this).  This will be the same whether your use the  
Pinephone's modem or the Android device's modem.  However, adding an Android  
device into adds an additional attack vector: now Google gets has all that  
information too, plus a little bit more, which an additional govt (USA) will  
have pretty easy access too.


Are any of your Android devices supported by any ungoogled Android ROMS?   
GrapheneOS is the best, but supports very few devices.  That would make those  
devices a better option, more secure overall than the Pinephone, although in  
terms of location tracking, Pinephone has the advantage that you can use the  
hardware switch to disable the modem sometimes, so you can have a little more  
granularity in how you handle the privacy/convenience tradeoff of giving away  
your location in order to access cell towers.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-16 Thread strypey
I have ordered the PostmarketOS Convergence community edition too. I'm pretty  
confident that after getting feedback on both the Braveheart and the Ubuntu  
Touch community edition, the hardware is ready to roll. I don't mind watching  
the software grow and improve over time, in fact I enjoy it.


I'm hoping that with a set of peripherals (screen, mouse, keyboard) it will  
be able to replace my ancient netbook as my work computer, as well as  
replacing my various old Androids for most purposes. That said, I'm also  
considering turning off the cell modem in the PinePhone and using it as a  
small tablet, and keeping one of the Androids for cell calls and texts. Since  
the cell modem is a proprietary black box by law, those comms are inherently  
compromised, and it seems a shame to have the nonfree cell modem software in  
the PinePhone running when I don't need to.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-12 Thread greatgnu
I always have a secret microjet. Those are necessities for ruing stupid slow  
people or something others.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-11 Thread ursmaritimus

Sure. I like the compact models especially.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-11 Thread msuzuqi
I always have a secret microphone. Those are necessities for ruing stupid  
officers or something others.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-11 Thread xliang9550

OS X (macOS) is POSIX compatible, so it's better than iOS and Android.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-09 Thread ursmaritimus

> Obviously not.

OSX is POSIX certified. How does that make it free software or "open source"  
or "linux based"?


Keep in mind it is important to avoid mixing things up in order to retain  
credibility.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-09 Thread xliang9550
Obviously not. Keep in mind that Android is a malicious, hostile operating  
system. Don't be fooled by "open source" or "Linux (kernel) based".


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-09 Thread ursmaritimus

> I'm the type of person that carries a point-and-shoot in my pocket each
and every day.

Me too.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-08 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 8.8.2020 6:30, beh...@protonmail.com wrote:
> LOL I'm the type of person that tapes mine up, totally not a deal breaker.

I'm the type of person that carries a point-and-shoot in my pocket each
and every day.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-08 Thread publiclewdness
Yeah what sold me on the convergence was the 3GB of RAM and 32GB storage.  
Both should help with the choppines hopefully.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-08 Thread ursmaritimus

Isn't Android POSIX compliant?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-08 Thread behmen

>For one the camera still doesn't work

LOL I'm the type of person that tapes mine up, totally not a deal breaker.

>Also outside of Ubuntu Touch many of the distros are pretty choppy for  
performance still.


Is it like early versions of Android/Palmphones/Blackberry touchscreens that  
would have vague (for lack of a better word) hit boxes and there is a  
noticeable touchscreen lag or is it more the app takes forever to load?  
Optimized apps will come later I know this...


Honestly if you bought the Braveheart, and are buying yet the Convergence  
edition too that kinda says what I need to know.


Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-08 Thread xliang9550
Whether postmarketOS uses glibc of musl is less important. What is important  
is that postmarketOS is POSIX compliant.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-07 Thread publiclewdness
I own the Braveheart Pinephone and placed an order for a Convergence edition  
with PostMarket OS a couple days ago. On my Braveheart I have mainly used  
Ubuntu Touch but have dabbled with Manjaro Arm and KDE Neon. I'll do some  
checking with the Braveheart about Rhythmbox on the different distros as well  
as let you know how the PostMarket version is. As all of the fistros I have  
tried Ubuntu Touch is the most polished so far but KDE Neon and Manjaro Arm  
have the most potential if you want a more pwoer user friendly distro.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-06 Thread mason
> There aren't many options for GNU/Linux on arm/64 devices (smart phones,  
tablets), and PostmarketOS is good enough


PostmarketOS is a musl/Linux distribution, not GNU/Linux.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pinephone Community Edition

2020-08-06 Thread xliang9550
There aren't many options for GNU/Linux on arm/64 devices (smart phones,  
tablets), and PostmarketOS is good enough. If the PinePhone community edition  
is still available, don't miss it.


There are no shortage of Android-based distributions, but very few GNU-based  
distributions for arm/64 architecture. By mistakenly calling the operating  
system "Linux" (sic), people confuse Android-based with GNU-based operating  
systems. When you have your smart phone running GNU/Linux, you can have root  
privilege and truly own your smart phone. Attach an OTG hub and every  
peripheral you need, you can even run gcc and build you own application on  
the phone.