"Always works" is a false generalization.
Some legacy iso images have no partition table. If you burn it to a CD/DVD,
it works perfectly. If you write it to a USB key using dd, it won't boot,
because there is no partition table on the USB key. If you run # lsblk,
you'll see /dev/sdx as a bl
>alway works
this..
There are many ways to accomplish the same result, 'cp' is another.
# cp trisquel.XXX.iso /dev/sdX
I totally agree with you. I remember using guis like unetbootin at some
point, I also used rufus and some other stuff. Since I learned how to use dd,
that's all I need to know.
dd:
* Fast
* Reliable
* alway works
GUIs:
* Have to install
* Not always stable
* Unexpected management of your usb
dd is amazing and no one should ever need more.
If you were basing your instructions on the relevant Trisquel manual, which
it seems that you were, it's not your fault; rather, the manual's
instructions were lacking.
Have you tried Etcher? I prefer Etcher.
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Etcher#tab=Overview
Even has a nice CLI interface with most of the features of the GUI.
exactly, pardon for that
The USB drive should be unmounted before writing with dd.
I came across the Libreboot project's instructions on how to prepare a USB
Drive in GNU+Linux
(https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/grub_boot_installer.html#prepare-the-usb-drive-in-gnulinux),
and I noticed that they slightly differ from those described here. Why is
that?
Etcher has privacy issues and in-app purchases.
DD is easy to use, so that would be my recommendation under most
circumstances.
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-8-codename-flidas-release-candidate-ready-testing#comment-130420
Before running dd, always run "sudo lsblk" to see which device file
corresponds to the USB storage.
If you have difficulties in using command line interface, try some GUI
programs that respect your freedom. e.g. Etcher, which is recommended by FSF.
Fedora Media Writer would be the best solution.
https://github.com/FedoraQt/MediaWriter
FMW is able to write any ISO to USB. It works under GNU/Linux, MacOS and
Windows.
Yes, I was about to mention that this thing may happen.
So, try dd program :)
this is what you need:
sudo dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M;sync
where image.iso is your fedora[someting].iso, or how are they named. And
/dev/sdX is the name of your device. One of the ways to find it out
If you think you need UNetbootin rather than the default startup disk
creator, download a binary copy and execute it. Check "allow executing as
program" first (right-click, properties,permissions).
https://unetbootin.github.io/linux_download.html
Then run in terminal './unetbootin-linux64-66
Thanks for your explanation.
"But don't you want to use dd?"
I'm concerned that I might, by mistake, delete the wrong disk. If I'm unable
to create the live USB via a GUI, I'll try the command line.
I tried the "Trisquel GNU/Linux (GUI: graphical user interface)" method. The
issue is I cannot open the Fedora ISO in the "Startup Disk Creator" program.
Hello, Aristophanes.
This package was removed, since it contains a list of distros that don't
respect users' freedom (software that does not respect Free System
Distribution Guidelines).
As you can see here, it was fixed, and the fix is FUSBi program which does
what is recommended (changes
That is interesting. I wonder if there is a large scale experiment on that?
And if there is an explanation?
I **guess** it does, specially since GNU `dd` is specialized in copying
things verbatim.
Some years ago, I made an experiment comparing the behavior of Trisquel
live USB when copying using "Disk Creator", and after tests, copying
using GNU `dd`. Using the later results in more speed and **can**
pr
In the guide for installing Libreboot only the dd-way is mentioned. Would it
make a difference to the success of the installation whether I use Unetbootin
or dd?
Unetbootin has three advantages from my point of view:
1) I'm familiar with it
2) Using it, one can create space in order to use the usb stick as a
portable, i.e. I can save files on the stick for later use
3) It's quite straightforward and stable (not 100% though)
It seems that the 'Startup
i recommend the GNOME Disk Utility, using the "restore disk image"
functionality as a safe(-ish) way to do the same thing as a dd command
It could be that I was luckless, but in my experience unetbootin is terrible,
and a huge source of time waste and back pain. Of the 5 or 6 times I used it,
it failed half the time. Then I learned a simple terminal command and that
one has never failed me: dd.
Assuming the usb stick is indee
Ah, fork!
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/unetbootin-fork
I don't remember if Mr. Lukeywood included his extremely understandable and
not the slightest bit condescending instructions on how to install from
source code on the thread or if that was a personal email, but it's not that
hard.
And then comes the question: Can I trust that PPA as I trust Trisquels?
I am using UNetbootin because I wasn't aware of the "dd" method you suggest.
Thanks for the link, I'll have a go with that.
That said, I'm now confident enough to experiment with terminal commands, and
I have enough experience (not to mention patience) to figure out a way of
getting GNU/Lin
eactly. +1 moxalt.
Why are you even using UNetbootin? It has the potential to create all sorts of
mystifying problems with the boot process, even long into the actual existence
of the installation.
Just prepare a boot USB with dd from the official Trisquel netinst/ Trisquel
standard image, as per the instructions on
To solve the problem of being able to boot just when the USB device is
present, and so be able to boot without it, follow this instructions:
1. Boot THE LIVE SYSTEM that's inside the USB device.
2. Use either a file manager like Nautilus, or the commands to mount the
partition where YOUR INSTALLE
Hmm. I wonder why it's not working reliably for me. I just got another
second-hand laptop (Fujitsu Lifebook) and tried to install Belenos from the
same boot USB I made with UNetbootin in Toutatis. I used the text installer,
which seems to have installed without a graphic desktop. Worse, it in
"Have you actually tested each of the free distos with freenetbootin? "
yes all expect LibertyBSD
Tom:
>> the spinning wheel of death is most likely due to unetbootin is no longer
in trisquels repo's > also if you feel confident to do so (and i could help)
you can compile Freenetbootin from source:
Thanks for your suggestions. My laptop is a "netbook" (no optical drives),
and the USB Creator on my Belenos instance couldn't create a GNewSense boot
USB. I'll spare you the gory details (unless you're really interested) but I
tried quite a few things, to no avail.
In the end I booted back
Well, if you're trying to create a live copy of an operating system:
If you want to put it into a CD or a DVD, use an disc image recorder
such as Brasero or K3B if you really want a graphical user interface.
Or if you want to put it into an USB drive, you can use USB Creator
(usb-creator-gtk in t
"dose [sic] anyone know how i could do this?"
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/belenos/CONTRIBUTING.md
Currently Freenetbootin is not in the repo's (dose anyone know how i could do
this?)
but the spinning wheel of death is most likely due to unetbootin is no longer
in trisquels repo's
due to offering to install non-free distros like ubuntu
its free software though
so if you want to download
Rightly said, Muhammed.
freedom is an ideal word that can fit to the context, as it alleviates issues
related to price.
Also mind that FSF's hardware certification program is named keeping user
freedom above anything else.
That's awesome.
That sounds like a good name.
Why not just extract the tar.xz onto the USB flash drive with libarchive?
Tom,
Pardom me, for I can't help you with source code; I am not a programmer.
Can you send a mail to this e-mail address which I suppose is the developers
of GuixSD?
guix-de...@gnu.org
My wordings may be insufficient to provide the required details.
I am quite optimistic; They will surely h
Tom,
Pardom me, for I can't help you with source code; I am not a programmer.
Can you send a mail to this e-mail address which I suppose is the developers
of GuixSD?
guix-de...@gnu.org
My wordings may be insufficient to provide the required details.
I am quite optimistic; They will surely h
i did ask on the #guix irc channel about recompiling the guix source code
into a iso
but apparently it would be way too hard for a single person to do it
[UPDATE]
Today, got reply from Ludovic Courtes.
This is the most relevant part from his mail; (Unedited.)
AIUI, Unetbootin creates USB images from ISO images. Currently we
provide USB images of GuixSD, so presumably nothing is needed on that
front.
Creating ISO images of GuixSD should be doabl
..
btw as someone else is already working on something similar:
http://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/05/19/gsoc-2015-introduction-end-user-flash-tool/
i have emailed them to ask if the two projects could join
and am waiting for a response.
Nice work pizza
Just a thought: how about "freedom", so that people don't mistake the goal
for price
[UPDATE]
Today, got reply from Ludovic Courtes.
This is the most relevant part from his mail; (Unedited.)
AIUI, Unetbootin creates USB images from ISO images. Currently we
provide USB images of GuixSD, so presumably nothing is needed on that
front.
Creating ISO images of GuixSD should be doabl
but then again people may think its part of the gnu project..
You can donate your work to the GNU Project; that will encourage people to
try out various free GNU/Linux distributions before making a decision.
Free software community always appreciate such efforts and its a nice way to
raise
but then again people may think its part of the gnu project..
You can donate your work to the GNU Project; that will encourage people to
try out various free GNU/Linux distributions before making a decision.
Free software community always appreciate such efforts and its a nice way to
raise
"so i think its best to try and finish my libreboot flashing utility first"
Agreed! I'm really looking forward for that one. Also, thanks for using the
logo :)
i changed the icons:
https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/FreeNetBootin
"Allowing the download of previous versions would be nice too."
i can try and do this but as it would require figuring out alot(i don’t
rely know how to program in qt)
i think its best to try and finish my libreboot flashing
I created a live USB with FreeNetBootin and it seems to be working well,
apart from most files being still named unetbootin :P
Also, I think that Trisquel 32-bit and 64-bit should be in the same category.
Allowing the download of previous versions would be nice too.
I made a simple modification to their original logo, if you want you can use
it in the project. The original logo was released under CC-BY-SA 3.0, so I'm
also releasing this version under CC-BY-SA 3.0.
Image source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:UNetbootin_logo.png
but then again people may think its part of the gnu project..
i will call it for now FreeNetBootin
until a better name is thought up.
also i added libertybsd
so if people could test weather that works that would be great!
latest version of the source:
https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/FreeNetBo
Wait, I am afraid that may not be an ideal choice.
We already have a Libreboot project for free (libre) BIOS/UEFI replacement.
This may confuse less experianced users.
How about
[1] GNUnetbootin ?
[2] GNUbootin ?
This will remove the confusion with the live project as well as spread the
that is a good name!
i will change it.
Agreed!
You should call it LibreBootin.
ok i have tried implementing guixsd but without it being distributed as a iso
it would be hard and most likely unportable to include it in unetbootin libre
edition
but if somone figures out how to convert it to a iso i will definitely
implement it.
I'm not sure what could be done with this:
http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
But apparently the dd util works well for CDs and USBs.
Unetbootin uses Qt and qmake, so see http://silmor.de/qtstuff.cross.php
http://libarchive.org/ :)
i was planning to do that in unetbootin
but i think it would require me using the dd program
and as window$/o$x
dose not have gnu core-utils(to my knowledge)
it would be unportable so making it a iso file would just make things a lot
simpler
but anyway i will ask on #guix
If memory serves, you need to extract that .xz file-- inside of it is a
.linux-x86 file, which is supposed to be dd'd to a USB or CD.
Well, also Live CD/USB distros.
Hi Legimet,
That means our libre unetbootin(just for the sake of a name) is only meant
for fully free GNU/Linux distributions that are installable to a computer's
hard drive/Solid-state drive(SSD), right?
Hi Tom,
You can connect to #guix channel in the Freenode IRC network, which is set up
for GuixSD users and developers and post your question.
Alternatively, I will send a mail to Ludovic Courtes, who had a presentation
at FOSDEM 2015 on GuixSD, with your particular requirement.
Please Kee
dose anyone know how to interpret make-files with mingw?
or must you write your own make-files from scratch?
LibreCMC and LibreWRT are mainly for routers and embedded systems, and you
wouldn't install them using a CD or flash drive.
Last time I checked, it was impossible to compile stuff for OS X without
nonfree software. For Windows, it's possible.
dose anyone know how to convert the guix images in a the is format?
guix image:
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guixsd-usb-install-0.8.2.i686-linux.xz
i can try to add Guix sd to the list but
i think as Librecmc are just designed for routers
the only binary’s i could find on the site were for specific models of
routers
so i don’t think its designed to be run on anything that can boot from a
usb stick at least yet
Fantastic! :)
Hi Tom,
A big salute to you for liberating unetbootin and contributing it to the free
software community.
By the way, I am not seeing GuixSD in this list.
Was that intentionally excluded because it is not yet production-ready / in
alpha version?
And is it possible to include libre Embedde
i am trying to make the executable's now(on gnu/linux using only libre
software)
Seconded.
Yes. I second this.
I second this.
i have done so:
https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/Unetbootin_Libre_Edition
If anyone made Windows/Mac executables, please share
Was this program included in the Trisquel repos, after all?
(Tom, when you have the time, I suggest you host the source code for all your
programs http://92.19.232.58:82/code/index.html on NotaBug.org :)
i am currently doing this
but i was having a few problems with making a git repo
with https so i will try with ssh tomorrow(sleep)
You should get it into Trisquel. Make a package helper, and submit a merge
request to the git repository.
You can sign up here: https://devel.trisquel.info/users/sign_up
thanks!
"but dose anyone know how i could give this the trisquel developers?
Request on account for https://devel.trisquel.info/groups/trisquel and start
working.
i guess as i put the links in the source code myself
i have more confidence that it wont be out of date
but i do intend to update the program when new updates come out
i will probably make a
website or gitorios page for it
eventually
Personally, I always download the ISO from outside Unetbootin, for fear of
Unetbootin downloading an out-of-date version.
i use it sometimes its convenient if you need a os on you usb stick
and you don’t have the iso file already
I think the "Download the distro through the programme" thing should be done
away with. I don't see the pointof it, personally.
Nice work Tom.
i have since changed the list to these distros:
Trisquel
Trisquel mini
Blag
Dragora
DyneBolic
Musix
Parabola
Ututo
Gnewsense
That project hasn't been maintained since 2008, though. It's probably better
to have a Trisquelized unetbootin which just presents the approved list of
distros, which can be accomplished with a package helper (as has been
suggested in this thread already).
FYI, it seems like you're making a new FUSBi... [1]
[1] http://aligunduz.org/FUSBi/
I do hope that this is done, unetbootin was my ticket to freedom from those
platforms.
i have removed Debian here is the new version
but dose anyone know how i could give this the trisquel developers?
in a previous comment legiment said "You would have to make a package helper
to submit it to Trisquel."
how would i do this?
would i need to compile it into a deb file?
I personally wouldn't include Debian.
For Windows, it can be cross-compiled pretty easily (there are mingw cross
compiler packages in the repos)
Last time I checked, it was pretty difficult to cross-compile for Mac.
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