I guess that IRC is for more informal meetings, and not necessarely a
support place. Although new comers do visit it sometimes. IRC is also
good for scheduled "follow-along" support requests.
Forums and mailing lists, in the contrary, are suitable for support,
because the request doesn't get lost
clearly though, if the main problem is the lack of maintainers and tech
support then forking is not a solution - the redundant parallel effort and
smaller user-base would be counter-productive
let me tell you what has spurred me the most into raising this issue
as i see it, the target
I agree with you entirely here, but it's important to note that having only
one developer in a project is not opposed to the ideas of free software. Of
course, a thriving community is in all likelihood better for a project (and
its freedom), but an inability to contribute to a project
I'm agree.
Trisquel is an important distro, I was surprise when I knew that Trisquel
only has one Hacker. This idea is opposed to the idea of a community and free
software.
I'm programmer, and I would like to contribute to Trisquel, but I'm feeling
bad, because I can not do anything. I
SalmanMohammadi
i appreciate that you are taking the time to be helpful here but i must say
that your response was not very encouraging
i read it as essentially:
* there were some co-ordination meetings in the past but not anymore
* there is a road-map but the sole maintainer does not
> i notice you say you have left "the project" - are you saying you are no
longer a trisquel developer?
I was a Trisquel contributor but not anymore.
> so as it would seem there is a large barrier to entry for anyone new
wanting to help out with trisquel.
Currently the largest barrier is
It turned out that I could add the packages mentioned by "Depends: " by
manually adding them to EXTRA_PACKAGES in my pbuilderrc file. I did that
until it stopped working, so now I have "Package 'aptitude' is not installed,
so not removed
Package ca-certificates is not available, but is
SalmanMohammadi
i notice you say you have left "the project" - are you saying you are no
longer a trisquel developer?
from what i see, you have been the one holding the dev team together for some
time and the only one i have seen to offer mentoring for newcomers
so as it would seem there
I don't know why it has been build now but in the former error message, one
can read:
python3-distutils-extra : Depends: intltool but it is not going to be
installed
http://sprunge.us/fIbg
It seems that I was wrong :) Thanks.
The problem has been caused by intltool. You should check why it cannot be
built. Would you please paste the whole output?
Sed is a programming language in a twisted, masochistic sort of way. Here's a
link to a proof of sed's Turing-completeness:
http://www.catonmat.net/ftp/sed/turing.txt
Thanks for the response. I think I'll keep up with my deepening study in c,
and then when I feel confident use it maybe in kernel or System enhancement.
Many many Thanks
Packaging as in writing a "make-intltool" package helper? Because it just
succeeded with message "Trisquel source package built!".
sed is not a programming language, it's a software application:
https://www.gnu.org/software/sed/
you must know git to send your code to us. 1. you must at first learn git 2.
you must then learn bash 3. Python is not widely used.
Hey @Salman, you said in a previous post that it was:
...
0. bash
1. sed
...
I have never heard of Sed, so I looked it up. It seems to be for text
automation/processing. I know Python, Javascript and C. Would it be
problematic to instead do this workflow:
0. bash
1. python
2. git
?
I checked the online repo: the tasks in tasksel are listed here:
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/tree/flidas/helpers/DATA/tasksel
and this is the task you need, it is named: web-server
>Please report this one as a bug
I reported it https://trisquel.info/es/issues/22048
>try to build the package locally with removing lines in package helper
between 24 and 38 to check which line(s) cause the problem.
How can I build the package after gives with git?
Thanks!
Thank you for posting the whole error message. Can you please try packaging
intltool ?
The new version of scilab has been released under GNU GPL.
http://www.scilab.org/download/latest
> Scilab 6.0.0 is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License
(GPL) v2.0. Prior to this version, Scilab was licensed under the terms of the
CeCILL license v2.1,
> what programming language do we need to know if we want to collaborate with
the trisquel project in terms of programming language code.
0.bash 1.python or probably perl.
Please report this one as a bug here: https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues
I have left the project, so I won't install Trisquel to check what is wrong
with it. packages.trisquel.info is also not working.
Well thanks for the response. I think the next logical question is:
what programming language do we need to know if we want to collaborate with
the trisquel in terms of programming language code.
Thanks in advance, I will wait eagerly for this particular answer.
Hugs!
Here's the whole log: http://sprunge.us/egdF
Hi.
I have install Ubuntu using virt-amager. GLAMP is on Ubuntu 16 with tasksel.
In packager helper it's ok, it's using sed to change some thinks but not any
task.
What is the problem? :O
scilab shouldn't be blocked anymore in flidas, because there's a replacement
for the nonfree code. If it's still not there, that means the package helper
system is malfunctioning.
It took a long time, unfortunately, for it to get into Debian.
Hi. I don't know where C can be used in Trisquel. You can probably help
upstream projects like Debian or Ubuntu but not Trisquel.
https://www.debian.org/Bugs/
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
Hello everybody.
Hello Salman.
I know a fair of c programming language, but I am practising and studying
more on the advance concepts of this language that I miss.
how can I contribute with code using C programming language in the Trisquel
project that I Love so much?
Thanks in advance and a
can you paste somewhere the whole error message?
I think I found the issue. The pbuilderrc file in the trisquel-builder source
code is configured to build a belenos environment. I had manually changed
some of the code to build a flidas environment instead, but openjdk-7-jre was
still in the EXTRAPACKAGES variable in my pbuilderrc file.
Great answer! I WAS under the impression that Trisquel is GNU-Ubuntu. Mind
blown. I think I get it now! Thanks so much!
As JXSelf, pointed me in the right direction, you wanna add this package:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-ath9k-htc
You need to have a package helper like this one:
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/flidas/helpers/make-icedove
(but forget about the lines
"Is it to clean the package of non-free files/code?"
That could be one reason, yes. There is a package helper to turn Firefox into
Abrowser for example. But the overall thing you seem to be missing is that
Trisquel is not an exact copy of Ubuntu. It's not even "Ubuntu without the
non-free
> I don't understand how can I add webserice in this file.
You don't need to add the webservice to this file. 1. check if everything is
OK upstream (in this case Ubuntu 16.04) and 2. find out which line has caused
the problem 3. revert the changes in the package helper or modify it.
"There is not such a package in Debian repository"
Yes there is:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ath9k=names=all=all
But it's new. As you can see it only exists in sid at this time. It took the
Debian Project years to get the free firmware. It came out in, I think, 2013
or
> What do you mean by strategy?
What is the reason why package helpers are needed? From my point of view,
Trisquel has all Ubuntu packages. In what ways specifically, perhaps with at
least one example does a Bash script help with processing a package? Is it to
clean the package of non-free
Thanks Salman.
I don't understand how can I add webserice in this file.
Can you give me an example please?
I need a teacher :-D
> In Flidas (Trisquel 8), webservice option in tasksel does not appear.
You should edit this file:
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/flidas/helpers/make-tasksel
There's no need to import it from Debian. One should fix the bug.
Hi Mangy Dog.
I can install GLAMP server without tasksel, but I think that using tasksel
the users can install it in one step.
;-)
Hi Salman.
>Why do you want to do that?
In Flidas (Trisquel 8), webservice option in tasksel does not appear.
> Are package helpers just shell commands?
Yes.
> What are package helpers written in?
Bash.
> What is the strategy for using package helpers aside from other methods?
What do you mean by strategy?
Sorry I don't understand what you mean. You wanna add a webservice to
tasksel? Why do you want to do that?
> open-ath9k-htc-firmware
There is not such a package in Debian repository. You wanna compile from
source or you wanna import it from an APT repository (PPA, Debian, Ubuntu,
...) ?
Thanks Salman. Good stuff. Definitely have lots of stuff to look more deeply
into now. :)
I want to try to package the open-ath9k-htc-firmware package from Debian for
Trisquel 8, but I can't get pbuilder to create a flidas-based build
environment because openjdk-7-jre is missing from the apt repos. Is there a
way around this requirement, or should I use a belenos-based build
Great ! Thank you Salman ;-)
Among links that have been previously mentioned on other threads, we often
forget this other detailed explaination in the package helpers readme
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/belenos/README.md
If you wanna contribute code you need to know 0.bash 1.sed 2.git that is all
you need to know. and this is the workflow.
0. cloning the source code of packages from ubuntu servers on Trisquel
servers (only main and universe components):
main: free software (supported by canonical)
Hi.
I would like to add webservice at tasksel to Trisquel 8, but I don't know
how. I read about in Trisquel's wiki without success. How can I help with it?
Thanks!
Are package helpers just shell commands? What are package helpers written in?
What is the strategy for using package helpers aside from other methods?
As far as I know: 3, 4, and 5 are made through the scripts at the
package-helpers repository.
Also, decisions on 4 are based on:
- Which package needs to be rebranded?
- Which has a bug filled for which only Trisquel project can solve? I
said "only" because sometimes upstream (Ubuntu) has it
What is the workflow strategy currently being used in order to contribute
Trisquel? For example, is it...
1) Canonical releases LTS version of Ubuntu
2) Trisquels founder gets the release (how?)
3) Trisquel developers remove non-free software (how?)
4) Trisquel founder decides on what software
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