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From: Ant Phillips <ant.phill...@post8.tele.dk>
Subject:
Replay B7
Date:
Fri, 06 Feb 1998 09:49:27 +0100
From:
Antony Phillips <i...@post8.tele.dk>
Organization:
International Viewpoints
To:
tro...@newciv.org
(addresses may be out of date - its a replay)
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From : Lenny or Jevan Gray
<lenng...@netcom.com>
Mon 19 Dec 94
06:58
To :
tro...@netcom.com
Mon 19 Dec 94
22:10
Subj : Re: Killer TROM
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On Sun, 18 Dec 1994, Flemming Funch wrote:
> ...
> His attitude translates directly into heart attacks, that is no
surprise at
> all.
>
> I don't particularly think he did TROM too fast. I think he
mistakenly
> thought it was everything and that he had handled everything. It
isn't and
> he obviously hadn't.
>
> TROM is still a good tool. It doesn't produce Nirvana and it didn't
stop
> its creator from dying of his weak heart.
This brings me to a subject I've lightly touched on before --
specifically
the idea of "exercize" as a _process_. This is one of the
things that _I_
include in the above mentioned concept of "handling
everything". Does
everybody in clearing except me think that the body is some useless
lump,
whose outright _needs_ should _not_ be respected?
When the MD's pronounce that walking/cardiovascular-exercize is good
for
our hearts, isn't it a giant, polarity response, invalidative
"not-is" to
take the "the body's just lowly MEST" position?
Exercising the body is part of 6D, and gives a certain
"pleasure" when
done in good ways, and gives the "pleasure" of having a body
that works.
How many of you out there really think it's "good that he's
dead" and that
"a weak heart" is a valid "excuse" for "leaving
his body", or rather, more
accurately, having his body "turn off" and cease its comm with
_him_.
- Lenny -
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From : Gregory Pickering
<100035....@compuserve.com> Sat 17 Dec
94
04:20
To : Homer Smith
<ho...@math.cornell.edu>
Sun 18 Dec 94
03:26
Subj : Re: Dennis Stephens
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To All,
It is my sad duty to inform you all of the passing of Dennis Stephens.
Dennis
was admitted to hospital about 10 days ago after colapsing at his home.
He
was
recovering but suddenly took a turn for the worse 2 days ago and left
his
body.
Dennis was a founding Scientologist and founder of the original HASI
in
London.
His wife, Anne Walker is also a long time Scientologist and was the
personal
Secretary to LRH when he was in England up until 1955.
It was my honor to transcribe the research notes of Dennis and to
distribute
these under the title "TROM" (an anagram for The Resolution Of
Mind). This
research has been gratefully accepted and communicated within the last
year
and
I am sure that took comfort in the knowledge that he leaves the world a
better
place and contributed to the quality of theta.
Any commiserations may be sent to:
Anne Walker
2A Marine Street
Redland Bay; 4165
Queensland
AUSTRALIA
____________
On a different note, my I wish you all the seasons greetings and a happy
new
year.
Best Regards
Greg Pickering
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From :
p...@crux2.cit.cornell.edu
236/174.10 Sun 26 Mar 95
16:05
To :
tro...@netcom.com
Tue 28 Mar 95
06:39
Subj : Re: RI
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Apparently-to: a...@jacome.ping.dk
From: p...@crux2.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: RI
In reply to message <199503262231.oaa29...@netcom7.netcom.com>
:
>I would like some input on what people actually do as RI on TROM, and
how.
>
>I have my own ideas, but it seems to me that there is a lot of
variance in
>what people do, as the materials are rather vague and ambigious on
that.
>
>- Flemming
When I do RI, I guess the best way that I could
describe things is
that I visualize objects, usually with a kind of feeling that there is
a
sort of "puff" as they materialize. I have a few patterns that
I use to
project them in so that they get projected uniformly around me. For
instance,
sometimes I project objects on points around a sphere, or in cubic
lattices,
so I might project something up,front,back,down,left,right and/or at
the
corners of a cube.
First time I tried to run RI nothing happened for a little
while
then I tried to create things that were bigger and bigger, what really
did
it was when I mentally "mapped out" the space that a whole,
earth-size
planet would take in relationship to my body, and projected that -- all
of
a sudden my sensorium got really bright and I felt pretty good. Early
on
I had to project things that were inanimate and solid, but pretty soon
I
started to recognize that I could project life forms (first plants)
then
animals also I found it was also OK to project cartoon pictures of
things
like cartoon stars, circles, triangles, etc. I usually project large
arrays of the same kind of object to make things easier, sometimes I
make
big showers of cartoon stars and let them fall all around me.
It took me a while to figure out how to run "have another
create
something", first I tried picturing a cartoon character and having
the
cartoon character make something, that didn't work too well. Then I
realized that the being could be another real person so I just "had
another
person" do it -- sometimes I think of sending out my own blue comm
line
and having a red one come in and make the object, sometimes I just
picture
the object coming in from another source.
Sometimes I find that it is hard to make objects in
particular
spatial regions so I project a lot of things around the edges of
that
region until it is not a problem. It generally is worse having
somebody
else create things, created objects lump up in some places, there
aren't
any in other places. I haven't really found a good answer for
that.
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From : "Dustin W.
Carr"
236/174.10 Tue 28 Mar 95
18:12
To : trom-l
<tro...@netcom.com>
Wed 29 Mar 95
06:35
Subj : Re: RI
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Apparently-to: a...@jacome.ping.dk
From: "Dustin W. Carr"
<dc...@newton.ruph.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: RI
Flemming,
For me, RI has evolved throughout my use of TROM. In the beginning I
would depend heavily on visualizing my creations. I generally created
physical objects. For a long time I found it quite pleasant to create
celestial objects. I would often sit and create galaxies of many
different shapes and sizes. Initially, I would put a lot of effort into
creating objects.
I never really had a problem with 'have another bring something into
existence'. I basically just interpreted this as bringing something into
existence and ascribing a sort of 'otherness' to it. I never concerned
myself with knowing who or what was actually bringing it into existence,
just as long as it was not me. This worked very well for me, and it was
usually this part of RI that produced the most change (and still
is).
These days RI is considerably different. I have actually been working on
creating a better world for myself, in the present and future. I use
a lot of abilities that have been gained from doing level 5 for this, and
I have gotten very nice results. I put very little effort into creating
things, and I seldom worry about visualizing my creations. Actually,
many of my creations are experiences or beingnesses that can not be fully
understood just from visualization. Also, my 'have another...' creations
are much more far ranging and all-encompassing, such that I usually
ascribe a sort of godliness to this 'otherness'.
Sincerely,
Dustin.
On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Flemming Funch wrote:
> I would like some input on what people actually do as RI on TROM,
and how.
>
> I have my own ideas, but it seems to me that there is a lot of
variance in
> what people do, as the materials are rather vague and ambigious on
that.
>
> - Flemming
>
>
>
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