Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
LOL I think we agree on the most important person is the world. Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God. I bow my knee to none other. Glenn, Don’t make me laugh! I am happy that we agree on something. (Do you always think the worst of a person???) Izzy

[TruthTalk] Christmas Spirit by President Reagan

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
In President Reagan's radio address to the nation, December 24, 1983, he said, Is the Christmas spirit still alive? Well, you bet it is. The Christmas spirit of peace, hope and love is the spirit Americans carry with them all year long, everywhere we go. God Bless You and Merry Christmas. PS.

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread michael douglas
Marlin Halverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Izzy, God is more concerned with the conscience than with going through man-made rules of "obedience,"which have a form of godliness in will worship. Jesus, who never sinned, was constantly being accused of breakingthe Sabbath of the OT by His

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: I had never heard anyone teach about the pros and cons of Sabbath vs Sunday worship. That is why it is strange that I just began to keep the Sabbath. I just heard the Holy Spirit convicting me about it every time I read the scriptures. So I started obeying, quietly and

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
This is about as wrong as I have ever heard you, David. You are judging motives. I am totally secure in my salavtion and I think this leaving work early on Friday talk is for rich people. Common working people cannot do this. Unfortunately, some people are insecure in their salvation, and so

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
Michael, The below is so wonderfully said. It's impossible to refute. Michael D: Again I say it is a sad day, and a grave deception, when men try to place yokes and requirements on believers that God has no part in. Paul said that one man esteems all days alike, another esteems one above another

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread michael douglas
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Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: This is about as wrong as I have ever heard you, David. LOL. Glenn, it is so clear that whenever we start talking about being obedient to God, that certain people will start shouting, but you don't have to be free of sin to be saved or you don't have to keep the Sabbath to be

[TruthTalk] Off topic maybe but cute

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
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Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
I don't see how you can say (1)"but you don't have to be free of sin to be saved" or (2)"you don't have to keep the Sabbath to be saved" etc. It's all the same." Again, This is judging motives. :-) One and two are NOT THE SAME TO ME. These two quotes are totally different. NO ONE ON TT HAS KEPT

[TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
The 4th Thursday of November as a special day for Thanksgiving is not in the Bible. HERE YE, HERE YE, CHRISTIANS DO NOT CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING THIS THURSDAY IT IS A SIN TO BE THANKFUL ON THE 4TH THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER!! HEAR YE! HEAR YE!

Re: [TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/25/2002 9:13:24 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IT IS A SIN TO BE THANKFUL ON THE 4TH THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER!! What happened to "In everything give thanks?" Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: I don't see how you can say (1)but you don't have to be free of sin to be saved or (2)you don't have to keep the Sabbath to be saved etc. It's all the same. Again, This is judging motives. You keep bringing up this judging motives thing. Don't you think it is time for you to

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
Those who believe that if you continue in sin, you are just as saved as if you didn't continue in sin do not teach the "official" Southern Baptist position. This is a perversion of the doctrine of eternal security. I am not taking up for the doctrine, I am just properly defining it. Glenn wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] NONE of the 10?

2002-11-25 Thread Marlin Halverson
Dear Michael, Let me get this straight. Are you advocating that not being "under the law," means thatwe should not obey the lawso that grace may abound? That we are to obey NONE of the ten commandments? ROM 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law,

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread Dave
DAVEH: I'm having trouble finding the time to just read your posts, Glennlet alone respond to them. But this one got me to wondering. Roughly what percentage of Protestants believe in "eternal security"? Is it like half do and half don't, or is there a majority who believe one way or the

Re: [TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-25 Thread Marlin Halverson
Some research reveals that Thanksgiving had its roots in the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles in the fall by early separatists who fled to America for religious freedom. The date has been fixed by I think F.D. Roosevelt, if I am not mistaken. --Marlin - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
I'm not sure DaveL. I guess there are more Baptists than most anyone. I know in Virginia there are more Baptist than there are people. LOL Almost all Baptist believe in eternal security. By that I mean their pastors believe in eternal security. There is one group of Baptists known as the Free Will

Re: [TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
This 4th Thursday in November Thanksgiving celebration is not in the Bible therefore it is a sin. :-) Some research reveals that Thanksgiving had its roots in the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles in the fall by early separatists who fled to America for religious freedom. The date has been

[TruthTalk] Jesus didn't cut turkey

2002-11-25 Thread GJTabor
Jesus didn't cut turkey he broke bread. Cutting turkey is adding to the Bible and is therefore a sin. :-)

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/25/2002 11:43:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Almost all Baptist believe in eternal security. By that I mean their pastors believe in eternal security. There is one group of Baptists known as the Free Will Baptists. Laura is one of them. They do not

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread Marlin Halverson
We are not to be saved in our sins, but from our sins. --Marlin -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email

Re: ****** SPAM ***** Re: [TruthTalk] The Father as man

2002-11-25 Thread Dave
michael douglas wrote: michael douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: michael douglas wrote: "...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;.." Jn 14:9 Where in this verse does it say that The Father is an exalted man? DAVEH: It doesn't. What it

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus didn't cut turkey

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/25/2002 11:55:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus didn't cut turkey he broke bread. Cutting turkey is adding to the Bible and is therefore a sin. :-) You don't cut turkey You carve it! LOL Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/25/2002 11:43:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Almost all Baptist believe in eternal security. By that I mean their pastors believe in eternal security. There is one group of Baptists known as the Free Will Baptists. Laura is