michael douglas wrote:
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
michael
douglas wrote:
> >>Michael D: Dave H, I
am interested in finding out how did God become a man,
DAVEH: Perhaps he will reveal it to those who return to heaven.
DAVEH: Assuming you are referring
I liken the Godhead to water. Water has 3 forms but it is still one. (H2O).
1. Liquid 2. Steam 3. Ice
Three in one.
I like the Godhead to an apple.
1. Skin 2. Meat 3. Core
I liken this to a choir, which sings as one, yet
is made up of individuals.
The below would mean, Christians. Since we are greatly under the influence of Satan for following the Bible only. Here we go again, using this anti-Christian anti-Bible doctrine against Christians. But when you get caught in it as DavidM caught you, you deny it with spin.
I like you DaveL, but I
Red flag. He has to use Mormon wisdom here. Truth is I was told by some Mormons that it is a sin to read material like this.
We
can't discuss it if you don't read it.
DAVEH: Sure we can. If you have a question, just ask. I may or may not know the answer, but will answer to the best of my
Did you ever answer my question? Why do you want to know what Christians believe?
As I said before, my current interests involve learning what you (and other Protestants) believe instead of defending what I believe.
Switch-a-rue. DavidM has told you what he believes about this.
DAVEH: Ahhh.In that case, I would be very interested in knowing if you believe our Heavenly Father currently has a body of flesh and bones?
You were told there is a book that PROVES
that your scriptures are wrong. You refused to read it. What does
that tell everyone about you? Izzy
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Pious
righteousness.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree. I am trying to be courteous
in my responses, and there reaches a point where arguing (in the good sense
of the word) becomes futile and only leads to contentious arguing (in the
bad sense of the word.)
FWIW.I
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Switch-a-rue.
DavidM has told you what he believes about this.
DAVEH: Yes, but I want to know what YOU believe, Brother Glenn.
Would you be so kind as to answer my question, Brother Glenn.
And I want to assure you that I will not use your
(contrary to DavidM'sif
Yes. Here is your problem. :-) I put a smilie so you can swallow it a little easier. You read the Bible with your mind made up before you read it. Herein lies your brainwashed mind. Here is the proof: "When I see Biblical passages that support my belief..." You put Mormon "revelation" above the
It is only important to make Mormons. It is not important to being a Christian.
DAVEH: I explained that relative to the pre-mortal existence. I understand you don't believe it. In fact, you said something to the effect that you really don't care about any pre-mortal existence, if I remember
To be honest with you, I think the Southern Baptist are as close to the Bible as anyone. Just mark me up as a Christian though personally. There is no salvation is the Baptist Church or the different Mormon churches. There is ONLY salvation in Jesus. When one is saved he is automatically added to
David Miller wrote:
You guys, on the other hand, seem to think
it is a sin to read the other side.
DAVEH:
I see you are not immune to telling me what I
believe either, DavidM. Did you not read my
post that explained that I have a few
anti-Mormon books in my library?
I don't remember you
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Red
flag. He has to use Mormon wisdom here. Truth is I was
told by some Mormons that it is a sin to read material like this.
DAVEH: After pondering your above comment again, it occurred to me
that it would have been nice if the Church had said "sin
to read material like
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DaveL
- This might sound weird to you, but I treat Pharisees just like Jesus
treated them. Pharisees recognize love as weakness. It takes
tough love. Also, I sent a Bible verse to explain my posting to Marlin.
How a man of God
speaks to others often depends upon how
Heard it from boy Mormon Missionaries. I have seen the same philosophy here on TT. It all fits together.
Red flag. He has to use Mormon wisdom here. Truth is I was told by some Mormons that it is a sin to read material like this.
DAVEH: Not by me. I've heard some in the Church recommend against
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Blainer) I do not refuse to read it. I just refuse to read it on
someone else's terms. If I happen across it and I feel unpressured, I
may pick it up and read it. I do this frequently. Besides, as DaveH
Blainer - How in the world could you call into question anyone's objectivity when you say Mormonism is not divided. This is utter nonsense. DavidM has given you far too much benefit of the doubt. There is no doubt on my end. You have no credibility because you claim Mormonism is not divided. A
Sure you don't refuse to read it. I believe you Blainer. I believe you. And black and white is not really black and white. Mormons are not divided at somewhere around 136 times. Sure, I believe you Blainer. Sure I do.
Blainer) I do not refuse to read it. I just refuse to read it on
someone else's
Blaine wrote:
... as DaveH said, who wants to provide DaveM
an opportunity to bash the Mormon scriptures?
That is all he wants to do, as my experience with
him has proven several times over.
Yesterday, I got a post from a person named Perry.
His discusssion of the doctrine of the Trinity was
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
Michael D: Dave H, I am interested in finding out how did God become a man,DAVEH: Perhaps he will reveal it to those who return to heaven.
DAVEH:
Three points I have made over and over.
1. Marlin is not a Jew
2. Marlin is free to skip Christmas and the many soul winning opportunities that go along with it if he so chooses. My guess is Marlin is not a soul winner period.
3. Marlin is NOT free to JUDGE/CONDMEN Christians who do use the
This Jesus you are talking about below is not the Jesus of the Bible; not the Jesus I believe in.
Michael D: Dave H, and Glenn, on a point of interest ... If someone said he believed in Jesus who was born of a virgin, died and resurrected, but was fathered by a super-evolved ape, and is/was
David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Douglas wrote: I would like to encourage TTers to look at the above-quoted passage in the context within which it is written i.e. the theme of the book of Hebrews, and Ch 10 as a whole, and consider whether the statement sin wilfully, refers to moral
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Did you ever answer my question? Why do you want to know what Christians believe?DAVEH: YikesI thought I had. But if not to your satisfaction, I will try again. I ask Protestants what they believe because they would know better than me
DANG: Thank you DaveH for picking up my questions. I think I understand your
explanation - well written and consise. And, I appreciate the tone/tenor of your
posts -
not at all demeaning or insulting, which is something that I am learning from you and
others.
What you consider christian and
I see the Trinity as Father (the Sun
star); Jesus (the sun rays which you can see here illuminating the earth); Holy
Spirit (the sun which you can feel warming you here on earth). Izzy
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VERY IMPORTANT PS.
PS. I don't have my Christmas card or new leather jacket from you
yet. Is the mail slow? :-)
Since I like you so
Julie,
Thanks so much for your testimony.
It is very sweet and touching. I hope you will write more here, as I would very
much enjoy getting to know you better. I can relate to your statement that you
have been blessed since beginning to observe the Sabbath. It is something one
cant
Darlene, Please don't go away--the women here are vastly outnumbered!!!
(Fortunately, Laura and I have been able to out-think them all.) Izzy
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In a message dated 12/9/2002 8:57:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(Fortunately, Laura and I have been able to out-think them all.) Izzy
AMEN Laura
Blainer) I respectfully disagree--with almost all you said!!!
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:30:50 -0600 ShieldsFamily
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blainer, You have completely lost me here. Anyone who thinks these
things about David Miller is half a bubble off to say the least. I
have
marveled for
Izzy, you've been taking too many Saturdays off. To compare me with a Mormon makes me think you need to go to work. :-)
I will continue to heckle the mormons, and Glenn. J
Izzy
Blainer - You are no DaveL. What's with this "I respectfully disagree" stuff?
It's a little late for that don't you think. :-)
By the way, I have received only one Christmas card from TT members. And that man enclosed a picture bragging on how beautiful his family is. :-) Now, I ask you, is that
Blaine wrote:
... the papyri that contained the text of the Book
of Abraham was burned along with the Wood
Museum in the Chicago Fire of 1871.
I hope that coffin you drove the last nail into floats,
because this is a huge hole in it LOL, LOL,
LOL, ROTFL
Your information is outdated.
michael douglas wrote:
DAVEH: As I said before, when Jeff made that comment, it
caused me to wince. I think Jeff responded in error, unless he was
thinking along the lines I just mentioned. I can't imagine any LDS
person from the bottom (Jeff) to the top (Pres Hinckley) not believing
in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heard
it from boy Mormon Missionaries.
DAVEH: Really.! And they specifically used the term
"sin"
when they were discussing it with you??? I suppose their mission
leader could have asked them not to read anti literature. Disobeying
that request then may have been
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AGAIN,
you would have to define what you mean by sin.
DAVEH: Why should I be the one who needs to define it? I was
not the one who used it. Shouldn't the onus of definition be upon
you, since you are the one who posted it?
Black
while is not black white with Mormons.
michael douglas wrote:
DAVEH: Assuming you are referring to God the Father:
As man is, God once was is a popular LDS belief.
DAVEH: I don't have a definitive answer, Michael.
-Michael D: OK, But the critical question
then would be how did Father become a man (understanding your position
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:08:13 -0500 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Blainer wrote:
... ARE YOU AFRAID TO DISCUSS THE GROWTH
RATE OF THE MORMON CHURCH? (19.3 % last
year, 2001). This is wrong--see below Blainer
Can you give us a source for this growth rate?
Blainer) It was
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Darlene, Please don't go away--the women here are vastly outnumbered!!!
(Fortunately, Laura and I have been able to out-stink them all.) Izzy
DAVEH: Did you really mean to say that, Izzy?!?!?!?! VBG
--
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Dave Hansen
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DaveL - How do you define sin?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heard it from boy Mormon Missionaries.
DAVEH: Really.! And they specifically used the term "sin" when they were discussing it with you??? I suppose their mission leader could have asked them not to read anti literature. Disobeying that
Blainer) Dave Hansen? I don't know where he gets
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:11:37 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blainer - You are no DaveL. What's with this I respectfully
disagree
stuff?
It's a little late for that don't you think. :-)
By the way, I have received only one Christmas card
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:30:14 -0500 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Blaine wrote:
... the papyri that contained the text of the Book
of Abraham was burned along with the Wood
Museum in the Chicago Fire of 1871.
I hope that coffin you drove the last nail into floats,
because this
michael douglas wrote:
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did
you ever answer my question? Why do you want to know
what Christians believe?
DAVEH: YikesI thought I had. But if not to your satisfaction,
I will try again. I ask Protestants what they believe because
they
DanG wrote:
DANG: Thank you DaveH for picking up my questions.
DAVEH: You are welcome, DanG.
I think I understand your
explanation - well written and consise. And, I appreciate the tone/tenor of your
posts -
not at all demeaning or insulting, which is something that I am learning from
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