Just sticking my toe in: See "The Faith of Jesus
Christ-The Narrative Substructure of Galatians 3:1-4:11 (2002 reprint) Richard
B. Hays. This reference is for David. You can check this discussion (the
faithfulness of Jesus Christ)out on the internet. Lance
From:
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To all:
This post focuses much on the personalities of Chris and myself. I
apologize in advance if it is boring to many of you. Just hit the
delete key before proceeding if you don't have time for this. I simply
feel that I must at least give an effort to communicate with Chris,
especially
John S. wrote:
Passionate faith is neither sensual nor of the flesh.
... Faith is more than consent -- it is a driving force
not possible without emotion.
Thanks for the clarification. That helps.
John S. wrote:
Here is what Thayer says: pistis is rather the form
in which the
Lance, is there anything a family member can say, think, or do which
would displease you?
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
David: Yes.Lance
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Lance, is there anything a family member can say, think, or do which
would displease you?
Peace be with you.
David Miller wrote:
Lance, is there anything a family member can say,
think, or do which would displease you?
Lance wrote:
Yes.
Is there anything a person can say, think or do that would displease
God?
(Same question to Bill and Sherrie.)
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills,
DM asks Is there anything a person can say, think or do
that would displease God?
BT: Yes, of course there
is.
DM writes to Jonathan
Yes, sin is a legal problem. A sinner is a criminal deserving of
punishment. This all has to do with God's Justice, which sometimes works
contrary to
David: Yes. Lance
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David Miller wrote:
Lance, is there anything a family member can say,
think, or do which would displease you?
David: When you are this OBVIOUS do you smile even at your own self?
Discussing the character of God isn't about GOTHCA! Lance
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
TTers, I write this not to debate or
criticize David Miller, but to help you better apprehend where I am coming from:
David writes
Considerthe following passage from the same author [Col 2.10-15],
which seems to give us a fewmore details about how were [sic]are
moved from being dead as
Ok, if we agree now upon the fact that we can be displeasing to God by
what we might say, think or do, then would not the converse also be
true?
Do you each agree that we can please God by what we say, think or do?
Bill, Lance, Jonathan, Sherrie? Comments please.
Peace be with you.
David
Here is what Thayer says: "pistis is rather the form in which the truth (as the substance of right doctrine) is subjectively appropriated." I put it this way -- "the faith" (Rom 14:1, Eph 4:13, I Tim 3:9 and 4:1) is a body of teaching that is the truth. That body of "truth" is not as
In a message dated 5/14/2004 10:03:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John S. wrote:
Here is what Thayer says: "pistis is rather the form
in which the truth (as the substance of right doctrine)
is subjectively appropriated."
So Thayer seems to view "pistis" the same way
This deserves a second reading.
John
In a message dated 5/14/2004 12:03:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BT: If something of mine is wrongly taken from me, I am displeased. If something is stolen, I want it back; and I want it back in the same condition in which it
Aland/Metzger - Greek interlinear - literal translation of Col 2:12 (and I give the English only literal application) Having been buried together with him in the(His) baptism ." Interesting -- I have personally resisted BillT's approach on this subject, but finding this forces me to reconsider.
Bill,
When the Ethiopian eunuch desired baptism, Philip said he could if he
believed with all his heart. Why do you think Philip insisted on faith
in order for him to be baptized? Was this a wise thing on Philip's
part, or was he mistaken?
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills,
John S. wrote:
please review the following paragraph again. It sets
forth the reason I believe in the differing appliations
of the pistis. You did not deal with that aspect
of the discussion.
I did not deal with it because I don't recognize faith used that way in
the Bible. I
John S. wrote:
Aland/Metzger - Greek interlinear - literal translation
of Col 2:12 (and I give the English only literal application)
Having been buried together with him in the(His) baptism .
Interesting -- I have personally resisted BillT's approach
on this subject, but
Certainly I do think it was appropriate and wise for Phillip to say this to
the eunuch, that he should first believe with his entire being. Here was a
man who would be taking the Good News of Jesus Christ to a foreign people in
a distant land. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not attempting to
Bill wrote:
I am not attempting to diminish the importance
of baptism -- or belief, for that matter.
I thought you were trying to diminish the importance of our faith.
Weren't you trying to argue for God's faithfulness over our faith?
Didn't you say that salvation has nothing to do with
In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:31:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John S. wrote:
In Romans 14:2, the non-meat eater is not simply a
weak brother, he is weak in "the faith" and that is
the greek construct in verse one (te pistei). He is
weak because he is wrong and he is
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