Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

2005-07-31 Thread Charles Perry Locke
JS also said there were men living on the Moon. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:54:02 EDT Hey Iz, To my knowledge, Joseph Smith never said what color the sky was.

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

2005-07-31 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, if you have no reasonable answers to these questions, just say so. Perry From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:15:56 -0700

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death

2005-07-31 Thread Judy Taylor
Just because I go there does not mean I embrace Calvinism. I used to go to a FHS to do genealogy but that didn't make me Mormon - Sweet ppl in both places. And no JD Calvinism is NOT part of my "so called" theology any more than Augustinianism. You may not think Calvinism evil. I do. It is

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death

2005-07-31 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:10:55 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:John wrote: ... there is not a dual reality when it comes to man.He is mind, body/soul, and spirit. That is what he is. The three cannot be separated and survive. jt: The above are only two JD - mind and spirit - and this is

Re: [TruthTalk] 20 yrs after Hoffman

2005-07-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://sltrib.com/utah/ci_2898017 The bombings - 20 years laterAt Sunstone: Principals in the infamous Mark Hofmann forgery and murder case reflect on the lingering effects What she wanted to talk about on this occasion was what she called "waking up." She's been asked repeatedly how she could

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

2005-07-31 Thread knpraise
You offer 5 scriptures proving me wrong, no doubt. My problem is this: none of them say -- "you must be born again in order to be saved." Such implies that I must do something other than accept the gift already given!! "Acceptance" needs to be discussed, as well, but let's just deal with one

Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21

2005-07-31 Thread knpraise
Not all that well written, I know -- but maybe it wll help. Jd John 3:3 "... unless one is born again (from above) he cannot see the kingdom of God. A statement of fact or a command statement --- could be either., but I think a statement of fact - not a command at all.

Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21

2005-07-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
Jehudi Again (doing his work in here)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all that well written, I know -- but maybe it wll help. Jd John 3:3 "... unless one is born again (from above) he cannot see the kingdom of God. A statement of fact or a command statement --- could be

Re: [TruthTalk] LDS Church has ZERO Growth!

2005-07-31 Thread Kevin Deegan
This week, several articles were published in the Herald about membership trends in the LDS Church. The articles looked at whether high LDS growth rates from the past can feasibly continue. Several readers were so unhappy to read these findings that they cancelled their subscriptions to the

Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21 A BETTER EXPLANATION

2005-07-31 Thread knpraise
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:23:44 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21 Not all that well written, I know -- but maybe it wll help. Jd pOST # 2. Please disregard the former posted message. This is still not

Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21

2005-07-31 Thread knpraise
Hey look, Mommy -- kevin has a new word !!! -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:27:03 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21 Jehudi Again (doing his work in here)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all

Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21 A BETTER EXPLANATION with corrections

2005-07-31 Thread knpraise
Sorry -- third time is the charm. Hit spell check and the machine sent the message !!-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:54:49 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] John 3:3-21 A BETTER EXPLANATION -Original Message-From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

2005-07-31 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, David, I think I will go with my analogy if it is alright with you. It makes my point andsays exactly what I want it to say. Again, either you are saved by works or you are not. Jd

[TruthTalk] [Fwd: WorldNetDaily Pastor denies membership to homosexual, gets canned]

2005-07-31 Thread Terry Clifton
Original Message Subject: WorldNetDaily Pastor denies membership to homosexual, gets canned Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:46:54 -0400 From: Henry R. Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] LDS Church has ZERO Growth!

2005-07-31 Thread Dave
DAVEH: Why would you think that is LDS logic to assume such, Kevin? Read through the posts regarding this thread. You will see my (and Blaine's) post was an attempt to bring a little truth, knowledge and accuracy to TT. Your post is apparently an effort to bring a little untruth to TT, as

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

2005-07-31 Thread Bill Taylor
Yeah, I know it is. Bill - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death We had an enjoyable family discussion around the dinner table tonight about,

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death

2005-07-31 Thread Bill Taylor
Bill wrote Okay, I willaddress your question and then try to summarize my position. I chose not to answer your question for the following reason: implicit in your wording is the assumption that we can separate the spirit aspect of personhood from the other aspects, the whole of which