RE: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/separate/bibdocse.htmChurch history has proven again and again that separation is the only solution to apostasy. There is not an instance in all of church history where a denomination has departed from the Word of God and then some time later returned

RE: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.tecmalta.org/tft351.htm http://www.spurgeon.org/downgrd.htm Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/separate/bibdocse.htmChurch history has proven again and again that separation is the only solution to apostasy. There is not an instance

Re: [TruthTalk] JD finds what he claimed not to have received

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Judy How dare you, consistantly Ignore JD's Straw Man!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you found it JD and it looks as though you areon a roll - an anti-Judy roll at that.On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:51:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:From: Knpraise - You glibbly misuse

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
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RE: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
r 03, 2005 4:47 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm By the way has anyone out there accepted this "GIFT", the saturday sabbath?Or was it a different gift?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1 Tim 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
and its oneobviousreaosn why there's an ACLU LOL Now that is funny! To SAVE US from the New Birth![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: myth (this ain't in the NT; its the fount ofAm Fundamentalist culticlegalism--its how legalism works to maintain partic racist exclusivity..its why evangelism in

Re: [TruthTalk] Virtue of Name Calling

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
say ye CPL??On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 15:41:19 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:The Virtue of Name-CallingJohn W. RobbinsAmerican Christians of the twentieth century are, for the most part, apusillanimous bunch. About the only time they shed their timidity is inorder to attack a

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the greatest voices

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
9,000 pages of his Dogmatic Barth can say less with more words than any manI know! Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill writes: "It will take many years, I'm sure, before Barth will be allowed to speak for himself to the conservative community. In the meantime Evangelical Christians

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst ....The sky is faling, the sky is falling

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
This afternoon I checked my copy of Barth - Evangelical THEOLOGY. I noticed something Strange, in the whole book there is a total of about 6 pages that have ANY Scripture References on the page! The absence of Scripture is stunning. In fact there are two references to scripture in the WHOLE

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the greatest voices

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Hardly the kind of atmosphere where faith grows.Maybe that is why barth Devotes a WHOLE chapter to "DOUBT" in Evangelical THEOLOGYJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 07:36:51 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Judy, let's assume that we could take all

RE: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
the saturday sabbath? Or was it a different gift?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 Tim 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; ... Forbidding to marry, and comman

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the greatest voices

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
God does not need the gymnastics of your theology to make clear what it is that we are to believe. He would have simply said (God speaking ex-cathedra !!) believe this and do not believe that - the impact of this doctrine is this and you are hell bound if you believe that. He spoke that way in

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the greatest voices

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Evangelicals know that their doctrine of verbal/plenary only effects the original documents.So it is a MOOT point there is NO Verbal/Plenary Inspirations since there are NO "Originals" Gods word is NOT Verbal/Plenary Inspired in your eyes,except MAYBE in the NON Existant LONG ago LOST

RE: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
12:37 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htmWHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WHO TRULY KNOWS THE lORD ONLY WORSHIP HIM ONE DAY A WEEK? We are free to worship any day, any place, any time. Live it up!Kevin Deegan wrote: The gift is Jesus Christ NOT Stu

RE: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
IHO see the web site.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Then why don’t you pass comment, Lance, instead of passing judgment? What specifically is “out of date” about that godly man IYO? izzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the greatest voices

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
:26 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:|| And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind... Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the greatest voices

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
This is a BIG problem for your 'god', not mine![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (listen to yourself sometime, Bro--sometimes its even interesting:)On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:46:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:sometimes God Orders the destruction of THE "ORIGINAL" so

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst ....The sky is faling, the sky is falling

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
of the volume. That's something like 9000 to 10,000 scriptures . But you don't really care whether he uses scripture or not, do you deegan. jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:58:58 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re

RE: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
this "GIFT", the saturday sabbath?Or was it a different gift?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1 Tim 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; ...

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Interesting Subject, if one looks into it,proof positivethat the CHARACTER of the LDS god is not the same CHARACTER as the God of the Bible.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: May I suggest another topic of interest to me? I am curious as to if any of you folks ever consider what

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
But these guys are not here to teach Mormon Doctrine. Why not just get it from the horses mouth? http://www.gospeldoctrine.com/NewTestament/Ephesians2.htm But only at this point, when we finally realize our inability to perfect and save ourselves, when we finally realize our truly desperate

RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
famous quoutes I am just here to learn AND teach a little LDS DOCTRINE!!!http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/bible/people/adam_lds_eom.htmThe Prophet Joseph Smith taught that Michael, spoken of in the Bible (Dan. 10:13; Jude 1:9; Rev. 12:7), is Adam. In his premortal life, Adam

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
LOL New Subject? http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=truthtalk_mail_innglory_orgrestrict=exclude=words=adam+transgressedDave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: May I suggest another topic of interest to me? I am curious as to if any of you folks

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
1 Tim 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; ... Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meatshttp://www.sdanet.org/atissue/books/qod/q18.htmSDA say Sunday

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY!! Y'all have convinced me this very morning!

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vacuity thy name is JUDY!From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:13:50 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy asks 'DID YOU BRING IT UP AS AN ACCUSATION?"Most assuredly NOT! I've also seen it and,

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Hero of the FAITHless? "The Bible is God's Word so far as God lets it be his Word" (Barth, Church Dogmatics, I / 2, 123)"THE WORD WHICH ENTERS HUMAN EARS AND IS UTTERED BY HUMAN LIPS, IS THE WORD OF GOD--ONLY WHEN THE MIRACLE TAKES PLACE. OTHERWISE, IT IS JUST A HUMAN WORD LIKE ANY OTHER. ...

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/special/131christians/barth.html American evangelicals have been skeptical of Barth because he refused to consider the written Word "infallible" (he believed only Jesus was). Others gave up on Barth's theology because it overemphasized God's transcendance

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Does this make Barfh qualify as a Monstrous Miscreant?CD = Church DogmaticsLike all ancient literature the Old and New Testaments know nothing of the distinction of fact and value between history on the one hand and saga and legend on the other (CD I, 2, 509). In common with the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am speaking as a pastor. I do agree that such conduct isharmful and wrong spirited. Ido notbelieve that Jezebel isa word that should be used with you in mind, for any reason. Now, withthat statement of fact in mind -- go back and see if youcan figure outwhat I am trying to accomplish in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
By the way has anyone out there accepted this "GIFT", the saturday sabbath? Or was it a different gift?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 Tim 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
lad to see you are still about... What an unbelieving mess this is. I can not imagine anyone allowing this man to mediate between himself and God. Can you??On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:49:36 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hero of the FAITHless? "The Bible is God's Word so

Re: [TruthTalk] Virtue of Name Calling

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Virtue of Name-Calling John W. Robbins American Christians of the twentieth century are, for the most part, a pusillanimous bunch. About the only time they shed their timidity is in order to attack a fellow Christian who is valiant in defense of the truth. A Christian like that is

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
I see this Philosophy as the same as PC Tolerance Should we call SIN by it's name? Should we call a Spade a Spade? Is a Cultist to be called so? How about False Teachers? False Prophets? For Instance, Nice Christians DO NOT call them Sodomites like the Bible does! Should we call you a

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
purpose? TO WIN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT BARTH. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:44:20 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I am speaking as a pastor

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
ion. We have nothing to fear of "faith alone" when it is applied to biblical "inerrancy" FAith is the single most important consideration in "what we intend to do next." Think about !!! jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yah

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
nd, have decided to pull the comment out of context and misapply the larger effort. You have done nothing to save this boy and now, you intentionally besmurch by comments and efforts for what purpose? TO WIN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT BARTH. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
your house, no doubt, folding underwear. We are done.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:39:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)I j

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
e you like the "tough man" image... From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am speaking as a pastor. I do agree that such conduct isharmful and wrong spirited. Ido notbelieve that Jezebel isa word that should be used with you in mind, for any reason. Now, withthat statement of fac

Re: [TruthTalk] Virtue of Name Calling

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
ss is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an interesting article - What say ye CPL??On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 15:41:19 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Virtue of Name-Calling John W. Robbins

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
I think it is similar to a Bishop image.Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What in the flab is a pastor image?==Kevin Deegan wrote: That was my point here is the guy who preaches against the tough guy image to Dean.Besides where how does

Re: [TruthTalk] Mission from God

2005-11-30 Thread Kevin Deegan
Statue-Whacker on 'Mission from God' Will Be Tried By Raquel Maria Dillon, October 4, 2005 04:18 PM OAKLAND -- The man who used an ax to whack at a statue of Jesus in the Oakland Mormon Temple Visitors Center rejected a plea bargain in Alameda County Superior Court yesterday. Larry B.

Re: [TruthTalk] **Moderaor Comment**: Terry, let me put it in perspective for you.

2005-11-28 Thread Kevin Deegan
the ModeratorFrom: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Terry, let me put it in perspective for you.Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:20:29 -0800 (PST)Ya know I am getting sick of your bragging about your Inteligence

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
thing to do with how you treat people and your manner of speech - among other things. Threatening your opponent with physical violence is hardly a sign of holiness.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:07:23 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:DaveH ain't Cain, Bro--neither is he an IsraeliteOn Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:31:17 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Gen 35 Put away

Re: [TruthTalk] Theology of violence?

2005-11-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
hysical violence is hardly a sign of holiness. -Original Message- From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.com To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:07:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. Knowing Dean personally, he is not one to feig

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
So here is the Real Problem when are you going to stop beating your wife type of problem.The problem has now become that VIOLENT man! LOLDave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I trust that Dean is a Christian first, and his propensity towards violence is tempered by his understanding of what

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry, let me put it in perspective for you.

2005-11-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
Ya know I am getting sick of your bragging about your Inteligence[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Zzzz...-Original Message-From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 27

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
sspellings : It sepends on how one looks at itHow about the sentence strucre and the meaningIndifference is active oposition in His book! Like I said -- it is easy. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:27:51

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
ld justify that reaction? Please quote my specific comments so that we can see what you are talking about. If you don't have any specific quotes, then we can assume you are making this up!Kevin Deegan wrote: if you won't list the imaginary offense about SP's then stop whining about it.If you said

Re: [TruthTalk] Fithy LDS garments

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
e them an apology?If you said such about someones wife, they would be justified in punching your lites out.DAVEH: ??? Huh? Just exactly what do you think I said that would justify that reaction? Please quote my specific comments so that we can see what you are talking about. If you don't have any specifi

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
defending yourself , did you get my point? -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:28:14 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean MooreNot my spelling just my

Re: [TruthTalk] On taking offence where none is given

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Temple garments are ALL about MODESTYLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It reveals more of the one(s) who feign offence than the purported offender.An acquaintance of mine asked the other day about the distinction between fundamentalists and evangelicals. Part of what I had to say in

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
You can't finda greek grammar that will disagree with what hehas said. DM shoots down your false accusations and now it is YOU THAT CAN NOT FIND!"Apparently you have not consulted too many grammars." OUCH!JD why not stop the foolishness and start having a real conversation?[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
be a greek thingy) while, at the same time, having no regard whatsoever for textual criticism at any level.for Kevin Deegan, it is not the greek text that is important -- only the most recent edition of the KJ bible. More than that, we have the manipulated list of the purified seven to demonstrateyour

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning to corrector/revisors

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
WARNING for BIBLE CORRECTORS Words are important even the "S" at the end of a word (Remember EVERY JOT TITTLE not even one "IOTA" will be lost!) is important some have erred by not paying attention to the letter "S"! LetterS, Jots Tittles even IOTA's are IMPORTANT! HOW THEY MISSED ONE

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Translation:I still don't get it![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You got it !! -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:45:36 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Knowing Dean personally, he is not one to feign anything. He is deeply concerned with holiness and I believe I can testify that he lives it too. I would not assume anything as far as the mat either.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said -- and it is becoming even more obvious: this is not

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
TED] wrote:Holiness has everything to do with how you treat people and your manner of speech - among other things. Threatening your opponent with physical violence is hardly a sign of holiness. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 26 Nov

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
don't get it. * to heart, Kevin. Apparently, contrary to Perry's mistaken opinion..you still...don't get it, Kevin. And, IFF Perry's next statement is correct...Evidently arrogant people don't get it..then logically, would that not make you arrogant?Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
, partic as hezeroed inon the Cross)On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:42:11 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Your Filthy garments are Rejected by God, just as your righteousness is, they areNOTHING but FILTHY RAGS!||__Do You Yahoo

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps you won't mind some thoughtful suggestions toward politeand perceptive Wisdom, Bro(?)also, if (His)simultaneouspeaceand love werenot thoroughly indicative of (His) holiness, then JC wasn't holyOn Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:38:59 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
the same offering, the fruit of his works which are FILTHY RAGS in God's eyes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DaveH ain't Cain, Bro--neither is he an IsraeliteOn Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:31:17 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
is he an IsraeliteOn Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:31:17 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Gen 35 Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thanks for the Illustration in the foolishness of trusting the critics to ever settle the matter. Let the greek scholars argue amongst themselves over trivial matters while we go on our way loving our King and obeying the revelation He has already given to the those before and now us. While we

Re: [TruthTalk] 'God's Politics' Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn't Get It - Jim Wallis

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thanks Lance now we know your car is blue!What an example of the Man of God, Filth mouthed Bono?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "The Left mocks the Right. The Right knows its right. Two ugly traits. How far should we go to try to understand each other's point of view? Maybe the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
God gave the Word he gave us the Holy Spirit and as Dean points out some were able to GET IT, right out of the gate! When are the rest going to getIN the race?Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: Judy I think we are being called ignorant by Miller,Bill.and others will add their remarks to

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Lance why are you always so worried about what others think about you?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have every confidence that neither David Miller nor Bill Taylor thought the two of you 'ignorant'. Their character (read sanctification) wouldn't permit such a thought.However, after

RE: [TruthTalk] Religion in America

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Coming soon to a Facility near you Muslim Prayer rooms!Mission Accomplished: Giant's Stadium, Continental Airlines Arena To Set Aside Muslim Prayer Area "First Islamic Pray-Ground" of New Jersey http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/home.htmPro-Football Game Erupts During Muslim Prayer

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Try it with me I will give you MORE than an Illustration!I bet an efFEMminate 'Jesus' would not care if a man spoke to Lances wife inapropriatelyLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah and, we wonder over violence in society! Thanks for the illustration, Dean.- Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Do you let men speak to your wife in such a way Lance?Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/25/2005 8:31:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles? Ah and, we

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
The bible declares Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.Jesus was our ultimate example.When certain men came to him to questionDeut 25:5,6: Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
st. Iwould be an ignorant man to do so . not to mention the limiting effect it would have on what God is doing or teaching me in my life. jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:10:55 -0800 (PST)S

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
ation which is not yet complete. But I don't expect you to understand that either.Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorThe subject of the sentence 10:14 is th

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
don't expect you to agree with that, and I certainly don't expect you to be able to understandit.Nevertheless, nothing I have said should lead you to the conclusion that I believe the one offering is not complete. Per this verse, it is our sanctification which is not yet complete. But I don

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
God and you will understand far more then what you glean from the Greek.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:10:55 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor cd: This is really scary in leu

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
my life. jd cd: My recommendation for this solution is to have a simple child-like trust in the KJ-This type of trust invokes God and you will understand far more then what you glean from the Greek.-Original Message-----From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
trust in the KJ-This type of trust invokes God and you will understand far more then what you glean from the Greek.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:10:55 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
for this solution is to have a simple child-like trust in the KJ-This type of trust invokes God and you will understand far more then what you glean from the Greek.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:10:55 -0800 (PST)Subject

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well you knowDon't you?.. Wada you some kinda IDIOT or sumpin?Lance is so crooked he cant see a theif and he continualy leaves out his leaders name. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What "invective" filled language Lance? Examples pleaseOn Fri, 25 Nov

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
g effect it would have on what God is doing or teaching me in my life. jd cd: My recommendation for this solution is to have a simple child-like trust in the KJ-This type of trust invokes God and you will understand far more then what you glean from the Greek.-----Original Message-Fro

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
ECTED] wrote:So where is your chapter and versepushing the KJV onto everyone and tossing the greek MSS out the window. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:40:46 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTal

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
] wrote:Besides nobody "DISGARDS" anything! You got to be kidding !! You and Judy are the most anti-theologicans I have ever seen. Male and female created He them. jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 N

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
re.Ialso believe that God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made void. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:01:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corr

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made void. -Original Message-----From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:01:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorJust think for all those

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made void. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:01:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
gotten what I said about them? I believe that the written message has always been there.Ialso believe that God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made void. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mai

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
e that the written message has always been there.Ialso believe that God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made void. -----Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 1

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
eek text (received text) or the man-made translation of that text? Regarding W H - you have apparently forgotten what I said about them? I believe that the written message has always been there.Ialso believe that God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to hav

RE: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why? Jjust because it is really the Street Preachers fault? Maybe DH was angry. Of course he equates SP in front of the Temple as Obnoxius etc blah blah blah. But he WILL not list just what exactly is so OBNOXIOUS about it. anyway SP 's at the Temple have nothing to do with his off color Humor

RE: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why? Jjust because it is really the Street Preachers fault? Maybe DH was angry. Of course he equates SP in front of the Temple as Obnoxius etc blah blah blah. But he WILL not list just what exactly is so OBNOXIOUS about it. anyway SP 's at the Temple have nothing to do with his off color Humor

Re: [TruthTalk] Charles Perry Lock says 'A totally arrogant and insensitive reply, IMO' of Dave Hansen

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Hey its the SPs fault Perry is to blame too now! Turn it upside down why don't you? And you got upset about Bible Perverts?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in 'em but, should anyone's door need showin' up at ...well...it's pretty obvious

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
I do not understand your outrage.Think of it as, mayI quote You? "filthy" "Ghetto Speak" Why the outrage then none now? Whats up? can't discern Carnal from Holy? is it time to grow up now JD?And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your argument falls on deaf ears. The ears ofthe vast majority of Greek scholars, who totally disagree with you. What makes your Private Interpretation better than theirs? Becuase it is yours?Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean writes Yet us ignorant people gave the meaning of the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
BTW whan you and DM resolve the issue let us know. Are you getting closer?Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean writes Yet us ignorant people gave the meaning of the present and future tense of the word sanctified as Christ taught in the bible the first time out. No, Dean, you

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
For those of us who geniuinely have difficulty in understanding your point. Does IDIOT qualify. You do not have to answer, (as if you would - someone has a blind spot) we already know.Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What "invective" filled language Lance? Examples pleaseOh the

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in 'em

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
I find it a rule that Perverts are generally not bothered by sexual inuendo and crass sexual comments.There is only one thing worse than a pervert. It is one who justifies the sin the sinner. I will preach to a pervert, but those who justify the sin are reprobates and beyond help. God

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Pay attention in class. Where have you been? AMAZING \()/ asleep at the wheelTaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ad homs aside, Kevin: who called whom an idiot?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:37 PM

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
post just previous to this one for that list. jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:46:28 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorFAITH versus DOUBT that is what it is all about. Even if

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Read the other post... duh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:And before 1384 ?? All the way back to the beginning. What do we have there interms of authorized bibles? Huh Mr Duh ? You are going to run out of answers, here, pretty quick, pal. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:49:02 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhat was used for English speaking folk beforethe KJV?DUH!1384 - John Wycliffe translates the whole Bible into English for the first

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