Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread knpraise
Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle thinking that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - you decide. jd

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MILITARISTIC?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *myth* (both the Military its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the you,the bible is anti-militaristic)On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *The Bible uses Military

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea You know JD that one day you will stand before the Truthresponsible for every idle

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
There you go LYING again please show where I preach "military peace in the church" or retract your psycho assertionism! I refuse to be misrepresented. Perhaps you are just confused. I am not an not a Potentate, pope or protestant and stop associating me with such madmen! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thank you Judy you are much more Gracious in your response, than I Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread ttxpress
myth (evidence indicates thatthe writer, below,preaches military warfare in the church) On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:51:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I [do not] preach "military peace in the church"

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread ttxpress
..as does Matron SF On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:50:24 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (evidence indicates thatthe writer, below,preaches military warfare in the church) On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:51:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I [do not] preach

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread knpraise
And yet the truth remains Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God (too bad women are not included - right Judy - or could it be that gender related expression often have nothing to do with gender ) You continue to dance around the major premise.

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED ..'The One enthroned in heaven laughs' --basically present tense language hundreds of years before the NT/Lukan histories of JCs reign,meaning thatmighty, mainly male militarism has always been a joke to Bible Authors

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Jude 1 it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
*myth* (both the Military its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the you,the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *myth* (both the Military its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the [real]you,the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *The

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
..thatone is intensely militaristic does not mean the bible is that way On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:46:41 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *myth* (both the Military its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
..biblically, some 'weapons' ofsome 'warfare' sponsoredby Godain't ritually 'militaristic' whichhas to do withwhy no militaries stand a chance, e.g.,vs. Gabriel, et. al., blind as batstoWhat they think they're'fighting' On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:55:46 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
..Why do the nations conspireand the peoples plot in vain?The..rulers gather togetheragainst the LORDand against his Anointed One. "Let us break their chains," they say, ..The One enthroned in heaven laughs... (Ps 2) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:15:21 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] re-writes:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
..'The One enthroned in heaven laughs' --basically present tense language hundreds of years before the NT/Lukan histories of JCs reign,meaning thatmighty, mainly male militarism has always been a joke to Bible Authors On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:34:51 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread knpraise
Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread knpraise
Et al -- I do believe the Pragmatic Prince of the Postulated Premise (love) has presented a most passionate and perfeced reply. Nails on my man !! Best reply of the new year. Pastor Smithson -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00

[TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff andfinally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread knpraise
There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff andfinally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by