[TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/13/2004 8:55:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Original Message- Izzywrote: David, I don't recall your lovely wife wearing a head covering. Is she not compliant with scripture? Oh, Izzy. You are going to get me into deep trouble with Elsman

[TruthTalk] ELSMAN TIRED OF GIRL TALK----PUKE, PUKE

2004-05-13 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/13/2004 7:31:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS, BASED ON KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE ELSE LIKELY WILL, AND THEY WILL GO TO HELL, BECAUSE THE GIRLS JUST WANTED TO COOK FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS AND HOPE THAT OSMOSIS WOULD INFUSE THEM

[TruthTalk] Re:THE BIBLE IS A KNOWN-KNOWN--A HOLY GOD CANNOT ACCEPT SINNERS

2004-05-13 Thread ELSMANLAW
HANSEN, MY ANSWER IS TOO LONG FOR THIS LIST. IT INVOLVES MEN'S RESPONSE TO 4- LEVELS OF SEPARATE ENLIGHTENMENT SET FORTH IN THE BIBLE. THE SINNERS ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE BEFORE THE LORD. HOWEVER, OTHER PRINCIPLES COME INTO PLAY BEFORE A JUST GOD: 1. UNTO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN.THAT IS, DAVID MILLER

Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting questions, Izzy. BUT, YOU HAVE THE WRONG ANSWER!

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
IZZY'S POSITION IS AN INSULT TO THE LORD'S LAST WORDS ON THIS EARTH---"GO". THESE WOMEN CAN KNOW ALL THE BIBLE HAVE SOPHISTICATED HERMENEUTICS, BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAJONES TO DO THE WORK COMMANDED BY JESUS, THEN.. ---ELSMAN THE LAWYER P.S. WE NEED MORE CINDY SMOCKS THE SMOCK

Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting questions, Izzy. BUT, YOU HAVE THE WRONG ANSWER!

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/12/2004 12:19:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsperson, What do you think, Go into all the world means? To me it means going into whatever part of the world, and whatever assignment in life, where the Lord places you. Im right where the Lord put

Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting questions, Izzy. BUT, YOU HAVE THE WRONG ANSWER!

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/12/2004 2:56:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shame on you, Elsman. You have no idea how many people I have witnessed to or prayed with to receive Christ. (Even I have no idea, since some are saved by reading the book I wrote 20 years ago.) Some are

[TruthTalk] GIRLS, DO YOU ACCEPT THE SCRIPTURES AS AUTHORITY OVER YOUR LIVES ,OR NOT??

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
IZZY KNOWS SHE IS CONVICTED BY SCRIPTURE HER OWN REBELLION FROM SUCH, NOT BY ME!!! I DID NOT WRITE THE MANUAL. SO, WITH US ALL. WE ALL CHOOSE TO GO GOD'S WAY---OR, OUR OWN HIGHWAY TO HELL. ---ELSMAN P.S. HOW CAN I PUT THIS IN TERMS IZZY , YOU THE OTHER SPINELESS WONDERS HEREON WOULD

Re: [TruthTalk] IZZY'S BOOK?

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE BELIEVING WIFE KNOWS HOW TO SAVE HER UNSAVED HUSBANDWERE YOU SUCCESSFUL? ---ELSMAN P.S. I DO NOT MEAN TO IMPLY THAT THE WORLD DOES NOT NEED YOUR BOOK, ANTICIPATING YOUR REBUTTAL BY KNEE-JERK. In a message dated 5/12/2004 5:30:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] IZZY'S BOOK?

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
IZZY, YOU WOULD BETTER REPRESENT WOMEN IF YOU ANSWERED THE DIRECT AND SIMPLE QUESTION, AND NOT TALKED AROUND THE ISSUE: 1. WAS YOUR HUSBAND SAVED BY YOUR TECHNIQUES? 2. WHILE I AM AT IT, WHY WOULD A MAN READ A BOOK WITH YOUR TITLE? IT IS CLEARLY ADDRESSED TO WOMEN. YOU HAVE GOT TO PROVE TO

Re: [TruthTalk] GIRLS MUST KNOW KNOWN KNOWNS KNOWN UNKNOWNS

2004-05-12 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/12/2004 9:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I accept the scriptures when they are rightly divided and taken in balance and in context; I don't cower before every religious zealot coming down the pike. Nor do I see any justification by word or by

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ---SO HEAVENLY MINDED; OF NO EARTHLY GOOD

2004-05-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
GENTS, YOU GUYS NEED A SHRINK TO HELP YOU WITH THIS GIBBERISH POPPYCOCK, AND I SAY THAT MOST RESPECTFULLY, FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE REAL ME. HOWEVER, WHO IS "ME"? WILL WE EVER KNOW IN A PURE ONTOLOGICAL SENSE? HELP!!! I AM GETTING SUCKED INTO THE MAELSTROM BY THE NOMENCLATURE OF THIS

Re: [TruthTalk]JUDY ADMITS TO CRACKING UP--ELSMAN DISGORGES

2004-05-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/11/2004 3:47:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, it doesnt bother me a bit, as that is what I assumed. And you have no idea about my personality, I think. BTW, Elsman, do you have any hobbies or interests (other than picking on defenseless

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert --HOUNDOG LIVED , TO DIE OF CONSTIPATION--CAVEAT JUDY!!

2004-05-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/11/2004 5:08:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only one persona and no traps Jim. The old accuser is at it again; and yes I do have a husband who likes for me to talk to him. Sometimes one is not told the story accurately. I hever heard that this

Re: [TruthTalk]JUDY ADMITS TO CRACKING UP

2004-05-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/11/2004 12:11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perry, If Elsman was being funny, it worked--it cracked me up. :-) Izzy PERRY, DON'T TRUST HERSHE CAN TURN ON A MAN IN A NEW YORK SECOND. SHE HAS AT LEAST 3 PERSONAS, AND EVEN THIS FRIENDLY PERSONA

Re: [TruthTalk]MEDIATION, MEDITATION, SANCTIFICATION??

2004-05-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/11/2004 12:51:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsmanstein: Are you up to speed on the Mediation of Christ "conversation". I, for one, would like to know your thoughts. Lance LANCE, I DON'T DO BOOKS BY MERE MEN. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WELL ABLE TO TEACH

Re: [TruthTalk]JUDY ADMITS TO CRACKING UP--IZZY ITCHES

2004-05-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/11/2004 1:24:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsman, from your heading I cant tell if you intended to malign Judy of me. Either way, enjoy yourself. Izzy I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU TAKE IT PERSONALLY, CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PERSONALITY. CHIP.

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women

2004-05-10 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/10/2004 10:04:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wisdom. The phrase "Love means never having to say you're sorry" comes from Jonathan Livingston Seagull, and is New Age philosophy. We all err constantly and God holds us accountable so we are responsible

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women

2004-05-10 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/10/2004 12:16:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Elsman, Charles and Lance: I stand corrected with regard to the origin of that saying, you are right it was Erich Segal who I believe is Jewish. Do a "google" search and you will find that it is

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women--JUDY SPREADS MANURE

2004-05-10 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/10/2004 12:45:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsman: One thing is certain, my confidence is not in myself, nor is it in any man who is full of mixture. My confidence rests in the fact that I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert --ELSMAN BIG JOHN SEARCH TOGETHER

2004-05-10 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/10/2004 2:00:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the information on HH and his wife. I agree with just about everything you say in this post. I just want the truth on this man. When you put his "accomplishments" side by side on the same page,

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women---DON'T JUDGE THE SICK!!!

2004-05-10 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/10/2004 5:08:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy wrote: ... from other objective first hand observations Phoebe was afraid of people - and since perfect love drives out fear someone's heart was not made perfect in love. I agree. Judy wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women--PHOEBE---THE CLAY TRUTH

2004-05-09 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/9/2004 12:11:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: judyt: Is it cruel to question David? Hubert's wife is a silent shadow in anything I've read so far (other than what Elsman has written). If she also suffered for the cause of Christ then why isn't this

Re: [TruthTalk] Backstage Pass to TT---THANKS

2004-05-07 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/7/2004 10:38:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you know you have a quota, and that you will be gone for a period of time, you can unsubscribe, then resubscribe when you return. Past messages are available on the archive site, www.mail-archive.com.

Re: [TruthTalk] RANDOM Thoughts ON A ST. LOUIS EVENING

2004-05-07 Thread ELSMANLAW
OH, IZZY, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH A MAN WHO KNOWS ENOUGH TO WEAR A COAT TIE AT "TONY'S" IN ST. LOUIE, BUT YOU CHOSE PEOPLE LIKE THAT 5- FOOT, 275- POUND PASTOR/FLUNK-OUT AFTER-HOURS SHRINK TO TALK TO, JUST BECAUSE HE TELLS YOU HE AIN'T NO MISOGYNIST LIKE ME. DO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT EVIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey LOOKS LIKE ELSMAN

2004-05-06 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/6/2004 11:05:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lets just drop it for now. Someday you will realize that there is a bit of bulldog in me. I am making it a hobby to dig up all the truth about Happy Herbert. Some of his pictures actually look like Elsman.

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/6/2004 10:27:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: I don't understand, Elsman..??? What's the problem with revealing a few techniques you might know that would benefit other students of the Bible? Did Hubert swear you to secrecy? (And if

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/6/2004 2:19:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering if the "Memory course" is, in fact, scientific or if that is just hype. God's Word does have a cleansing effect on both mind and heart but I don't know if this happens when it is taken out of

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/6/2004 1:18:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, you're almost there. Lets ask John f he approves of you addressing him this way. If he does not, lets set it aside and call him John, or Smithson, or John Smithson, (but not JS), okay? Perry the

Re: [TruthTalk] THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SICKNESS OF DISPISED JOHN SMITHSON

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
PERRY, I LIKE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR. DID YOU NOTE THAT JOHNNIE BUTTERBALL STARTED THE WHOLE THING BY SAYING, WITH UNMITIGATED GAUL, THAT I "DISPISED (SIC) MILLER, AND TREATS HIM LIKE A STEP-MOM..."? DID YOU NOTE THAT SMITHSON, THUS, PROVOKED THE WHOLE FIGHT? THOSE ARE "FIGHTING WORDS", AND I

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:20:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some homework maybe for Lance: Hubert told me that he published a memory course back in the 1930's, but I have never been able to find it. I would be very interested in it if you have a way to locate it.

Re: [TruthTalk] ELSMAN HUBERT

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:01:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DavidM: Thanks for sharing about Hubert! That was very interesting. I learned some details that I did not know about you and Hubert. Thank you for taking time to share it with all of us. jt: When and where

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/5/2004 10:31:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Thanx Judy..I find that very interesting. It apparently took Hubert a lot of effort to memorize.it wasn't just a natural talent. To memorize the NT in a half year must have required a lot of

[TruthTalk] ELSMAN HOLDS- IN PERSONAL AD-HOMINEM OPINION

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/5/2004 10:05:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, yes, I saw that. I am trying not to become the TT gestapo, believing that adulsts either will not make such comments, or will be able to resolve these issues themselves, but you are very challenging

Re: [TruthTalk]ELSMAN LOVES ON JOHN SMITHSON

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/5/2004 10:05:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 5/4/2004 11:37:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: I don't care to hear the voice of the accuser constantly and strife isn't good - so thanks for sharing your side

Re: [TruthTalk]ELSMAN LOVES ON JOHN SMITHSON

2004-05-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/5/2004 5:59:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 5/5/2004 9:37:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FRANKLY, DAVID MILLER IS MY CLOSE FRIEND. Of course he is and everyone on this list has seen the respect and love

Re: [TruthTalk] ??????? HUBERT LOVED HIS PHOEBE

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 11:12:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy PS I wonder if Holy Hubert had the same attitude towards women, and if that is why his wife was not with him when he died. Heartbreaking situation either way, Im sure. IZZY, YOU NEVER HAVE

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey----WEBSITE OPPOSED?

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 8:32:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope you mean going to Rick Roehm to get some CD's of Hubert's sermons rather than that website that is against Hubert. Going to that website that John S. recommended is like going to the democratic party

Re: [TruthTalk] LET'S GET OUR SEX STRAIGHT??

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 7:50:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Romans 16:7 Paul here refers to a FEMALE APOSTLE(Junia) I have no idea how great a theologian SHE was but SHE was an apostle. Lance - Original Message - DOES YOUR RESEARCH, LANCE, INDICATE THAT

Re: [TruthTalk] ??????? HUBERT LOVED HIS PHOEBE

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 1:14:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was Hunichen convicted? That is something I do not know. I know the charges, of course, but I am leaving them out of this question with purpose. JD YES. HE IS SERVING 7 YEARS IN PRISON IN N. CAROLINA.

Re: [TruthTalk] THE MORBID CURIOSITY OF JOHN BUTTERBALL

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 1:26:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Justly or unjustly -- do you have an opinion (am I asking Els for an opinion -- I am going intot he front room to have my wife slap me). JD BUTTERBALL JOHN, THAT IS WHAT WE CALLED YOU ON THE "PREACHERS

Re: [TruthTalk] Els - the anti HH site address

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 1:31:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.concentric.net/~Kottca/hubert/ sorry. it was not found by my server.

Re: [TruthTalk] Els - the anti HH site address

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 2:20:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have to remove the last backslash. (Just advise from a woman.) Izzy izzy, I GOT MORE THAN I COULD PRINT BY JUST GOING TO AOL/GOOGLE AND TYPING IN MERELY "HOLY HUBERT". THANKS, JIM

Re: [TruthTalk] THE SECRET LIFE OF JOHN BUTTERBALL SMITHSON

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 3:24:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsman, What is wrong with you? Why are you so uncharitable and evil so far as John Smithson is concerned. If one thing is constant on this list it's that you have never had a kind word to say about him. Do

Re: [TruthTalk] THE SECRET LIFE OF JOHN BUTTERBALL SMITHSON

2004-05-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/4/2004 4:44:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsman, If youd like to throw darts at my photo: http://shieldsfamily.com/linda_pages.htm#Never%20Fear%20link Izzy (a.k.a. Linda) LINDA, YEAH, YOU AIN'T BAD, KID. SEND ME A COPY OF YOUR SONG, AND I

Re: [TruthTalk] Head Coverings

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 10:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, one very important question is, "does your wife wear a head covering"? If so, please explain to us her practice in this regard. Does she wear it only in religious meetings, or does she wear it all the

Re: [TruthTalk] NOT ENOUGH GOOD MEN.....??

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 2:54:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel's viewpoint and mine are somewhat close, but there is an important distinction. I would allow women like Judy to give commentary on Scripture whereas he would not. I wonder if he would even allow women

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 4:59:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: ... converted over 40.000 Jews and thousands of hippies and conducted services at a 2000 member church -- which in fact was his service garage. His service garage? What are you talking

Re: [TruthTalk] 'NOT ENOUGH GOOD MEN -LOVERS

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 4:57:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JT: NOT SO. WOMEN ARE SUBJECT TO THEIR OWN HUSBANDS IN THE MARRIAGE AND HUSBANDS ARE TO LOVE THEIR WIVES AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH BUT EVERY WOMAN IS NOT SUBJECT TO EVERY MAN. YOU ARE IN ERROR. JUDI,

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:54:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JESUS MUST NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT HE WAS ABOUT ALLOWING WOMEN TO LEARN AND GIVING THEM EQUALITY WITH THE MEN. ELSMAN - YOU NEED YOUR MIND RENEWED, IT MAY BE A GOOD WEAPON FOR COURTROOM BATTLES BUT DOES

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:36:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: I suppose I should ask Jim Ellsman - do you know if Hubert ever had a meeting with the Pope? I saw that reported also and have to wonder about it. It seems a bit out of character, but then if he studied

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM?

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:10:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Elsman wrote: WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE BONDSWOMEN OUT? I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EXIST IN

Re: [TruthTalk] THE GROSS INFERIORITY OF WOMEN IN ALL FIELDS

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 9:48:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some have more opportunities than others but with God we have an equal playing field. He is no respecter of any mans person and intellect does not guarantee understanding. Do you have anything undergird such a

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey THE SICKNESS OF JOHN SMITHSON

2004-05-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/3/2004 11:21:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: material. Lest we forget, DavidM has good things to say about Elsman - a man who dispises Miller and treats him like a step-mom. John JOHN, YOU ARE A TROUBLE-CAUSING LOSER THAT DIVORCED AND GOT KICKED

Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/2/2004 3:18:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Annika and I were able to minister to a young 13 year old girl and we convinced her of the need for females to cover their heads per I Corinthians 11. We also showed to her that the jewish kippah was pagan.

Re: [TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support----the Mouths of the Women Convict Them

2004-05-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/2/2004 11:15:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy, I would instruct my wife in the use of the delete key. No one is making you read Daniels posts. Let me do the same for you. There is a key on your keyboard with the word "Delete" on it. Highlight

Re: [TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support---ELSMAN ATTACKS DANIEL

2004-05-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
DANIEL, SHAPE UP, OR I WILL HAVE A JEWISH MOULE PAY YOU A VISIT FOR AN EXTRA BRIS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL THEM WHORES-TRY "GREAT BULLS OF BASHAM.", OR SOMETHING MORE ACCURATE. PLEASE TELL US ABOUT WHY CHRISTIANS SHOULD FOLLOW THE TORAH. I AM SINCERELY INTERESTED IF YOU FOLLOW ALL 613? (THAT

[TruthTalk] ELSMAN HUBERT

2004-05-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
DAVID, JUST TO SETTLE THE RECORD CLARIFY MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HOLY HUBERT: 1. HUBERT WAS NEVER ON MY RADIO STATION, WHICH IS IN BATTLE CREEK. I PAID $300 PER WEEK FOR HUBERT AND I TO BE ON THE BIG FM CHRISTIAN STATION IN DETROITWMUZ. OVERNIGHT, WE HAD THE MOST POPULAR AND CONTROVERSIAL SHOW

Re: [TruthTalk] ELSMAN HUBERT

2004-05-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/1/2004 12:21:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fascinating! I'd be interested in hearing some of the CD talks. How may this be accomplished? Blessings, Lance - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 01,

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM?

2004-05-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
GENTS, THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS BE IN CHAOS , AS LONG AS WE TOLERATE WOMEN BLABBING ON IT. THEY ARE TO KEEP SILENT IN SUCH MATTERS OF THE CHURCH; THEY ARE THE WEAKER VESSEL; THEY DON'T HAVE MINDS FOR THEOLOGY AND A HERMENEUTIC. PROOF: THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE GREAT WOMAN THEOLOGIAN IN HISTORY,

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM?

2004-05-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/1/2004 3:01:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE BONDSWOMEN OUT? I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EXIST IN ONE YEAR IF YOU DO

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM?

2004-05-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/1/2004 5:54:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EXIST IN ONE YEAR IF YOU DO NOT. ELSMANSTEIN THE LAWYER How many great and gifted

Re: [TruthTalk] Teaching ONLY IN THE MEN'S ROOM

2004-05-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/1/2004 5:30:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel responds: Exactly my point, Lance. Thank you for being one of the few honest enough on this forum to admit that. And since judy amd izzy and other assorted females are obviously "teaching" in the I

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism: JUDI DROWNS IN THE WATER ON HER BRAIN

2004-04-30 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:32:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Acts 8:12 "Philip was baptizing in Samaria" Acts 8:13 "Peter baptized Simon the Sorcerer in Samaria" Acts 8:18 "Many Corinthians believed and were baptized" Acts 9:18 "Paul was baptized after receiving his

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism: JUDI DROWNS IN THE WATER ON HER BRAIN

2004-04-30 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/30/2004 11:30:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:51:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WHAT MAN IS A MOUTHY WOMAN LIKE YOU SUBJECT TO? PASTOR? HUSBAND? WHY DO IS SUSPECT THAT THE ANSWER IS "NOBODY"?

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism: are we all wet? THE ETHIOPIAN EUNUCH

2004-04-29 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/29/2004 7:00:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ELSMAN THE LAWYER, GIVING THE SHORT COURSE. HEY, IF YOU HAVE BEEN WATER BAPTIZED, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. SOME OF YOU NEED A BATH ANYWAY. Thought provoking, Elsman. When you have time, I would like to

Re: [TruthTalk] Chuck Spingola punches Ruben?MILLER ON HIT LIST? WHICH?

2004-04-26 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/25/2004 11:48:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ruben is that Chuck had been desirous to meet with him. Upon meeting him, Chuck had some harsh words for Ruben, then punched him several times and left. Ruben expressed concern that they were looking for Ron

Re: [TruthTalk] SINNERS GET IN THE LAKE, NOT THE RIVER!!

2004-04-24 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/24/2004 1:32:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you hear me? Hang on to your seat, my friend, because this is totally awesome! From the heart of the city flows a river. It's called the river of life. Originating at the throne of the Lamb of God it

Re: [TruthTalk] SINNERS BATHE IN THE LAKE, NOT THE RIVER!!

2004-04-24 Thread ELSMANLAW
bill, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE FIRST CHAPTER OF REVELATION WILL BLESS YOU FOR READING THE BOOK. THE BAD--OH, .I HESITATE TO TELL YOU WHAT THE LAST FEW PARAGRAPHS OF THE BOOK SAY ABOUT THOSE THAT ADD TO , OR TAKE AWAY, FROM THE BOOK. ANYWAY, JUST HEAD STRAIGHT FOR THE RIVER,

Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE FOR SALVATION UNDER O.T.?

2004-04-23 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/22/2004 8:47:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would say that David knew God and His ways.. after all it was God Himself who called David a "man after his own heart" David knew God's covenant promises and He hoped so much in God's mercy and

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife??? BLASPHEMY!!!

2004-04-23 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/23/2004 5:45:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Bearing Our Crosses Gracefully: Sex and the Single Mormon." Dialogue Winter 1991 Robert A. Rees Mormons differ from other Christians in our literal belief that we are begotten of God spiritually and

[TruthTalk] When do the unborn have a spirit and soul?

2004-04-20 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/20/2004 9:57:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ELSMANLAW writes: I will say that with several of my children, I knew that they were conceived at the very moment when the egg was fertilized. Nevertheless, I don't tie that knowing and perception with the fact that they had received

[TruthTalk] Re ELSMAN EXPLAINS, AS LUTHER ROLLS OVER RE HOMO INVESTITURE

2004-04-19 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/19/2004 12:37:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Sherrie, Thanks for the comments. I understand completely. Please pray for me. But if you think the arsenic crack wasn't funny, you REALLY wouldn't laugh at where I was thinking he should stick that

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism IS NOT CHRISTIAN

2004-04-19 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/19/2004 12:40:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Under Calvinism, man has no power to do what is right or to do what is wrong. Under Calvinism, man is what God has made him. It is a form of fatalism that has no place in the life of a believer who would

Re: [TruthTalk] WHO WILL RISE UP TO REBUKE LUTHERANS BEFORE LUTHER ROLLS OVER IN GRAVE???...

2004-04-18 Thread ELSMANLAW
GENTS, THIS IS NOT GOOD, WHEN A PREACHER LIKE FROG CANNOT GO TO AN IMPORTANT EVENT, BECAUSE RUBEN IS THERE, I.E. THE LUTHERAN INSTALLATION OF A QUEER: 1. RUBEN DOESN'T CARE IF YOU COME, AND MAY EVEN ADMIT TO HAVING BLOWN IT BY HIS METHODOLOGY ( NOT MESSAGE) RE THE HILL EXECUTION. WE ALL MAKE

[TruthTalk] Fwd: Fw: Bible Jim#039;s Website Feedback---HAPPY EASTER!!

2004-04-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
SAINTS: THIS IS THE OBJECT OF ALL PREACHING TO SINNERS, DISCUSSION AND ENCOURAGING OF THE SAINTS---THE CONVICTION OF SIN, EVEN IF THE LISTENERS, IN THE WORDS OF ROMANS 10, QUOTING FROM ISAIAH, SAY: WHO HATH BELIEVED YOUR REPORT? HAPPY EASTER!! CHRIST HATH RISEN; CHRIST

Re: [TruthTalk]ON EASTER, Answering a fool according to his folly ...

2004-04-10 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/10/2004 1:29:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Knpraise writes: a message dated 4/9/2004 4:40:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, David, in accordance with Matthew 7:1-6 ... we know the truth about you from Elsman ... RIGHT?!? And you

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian perfection--SANCTIFICATION WITHOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT??

2004-04-06 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/5/2004 5:50:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sanctification is the equivalent of Christian Perfection, and it refers to our being set apart by the work of Christ to live holy and unblameable in deed and in truth. It refers to our continued walk, growing

[TruthTalk] Re:CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS BOOKS---JED MOVES TO COLUMBIA, MO

2004-04-05 Thread ELSMANLAW
GENTS, IT WAS VERY SAD TO RECEIVE JED SMOCK'S NEWSLETTER THAT HE WAS FINALLY MOVED TO COLUMBIA, MO, GIVING HIS NEW ADDRESS PHONE. IT IS FINAL. JED DID SOME GREAT WORK IN NEWARK, OH, AND WE WILL ALL REMEMBER THE GOODS AND BADS OF HIS CONFERENCES. JESUS' BLESSINGS TO HIM AND HIS OUTSTANDING

Re: [TruthTalk] Reprimand to Jim Elsman?????????APPEAL FILED.

2004-04-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/4/2004 7:00:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/3/2004 10:05:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think other TT'rs will agree. Reprobate is the word that comes to my mind. J PERRY AND DAVID: SINCE YOU

Re: [TruthTalk] ELSMAN AND WEBBER USE MITCHELL DEFENSE: BOBBY BRAINWASHED ME!!

2004-04-04 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/4/2004 4:06:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DEAR BROTHER FROG: I WILL NOT ADVICE YOU TO GO TO MILLERS OR NOT GO. WHAT I WILL ADVISE YOU ON IS... IF YOU DO GO KEEP YOUR FEET SOLIDLY ON THE GROUND AT ALL TIMES. PROBABLY MILLER AGREES. GENTS, IT IS

[TruthTalk] Re:ATTORNEY ELSMAN APPEARS BEFORE SUPREME COURT---LOSES AGAIN

2004-04-03 Thread ELSMANLAW
GENTS, SAINTS SINNERS: (I USE THE MIXED-ADDRESSEE LABEL ABOVE, BECAUSE I AM ALSO ADDRESSING "TRUTH TALK", AND SOME THEREON LIKE JOHN SMITHSON CONFESS THAT CHRISTIANS LIKE THEM OFT EAT THEIR VOMIT OF SIN BECOME WASHED ONLY TO WALLOW AGAIN IN THE MIRE, LIKE A PIG.) I HEREIN REPORT ON MY

[TruthTalk] Fwd: MILLER EATS CAMEL DUNG; bobby SWALLOWS GOLIATHS***WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL P...

2004-04-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
saints, someone asked if i was the great bobbybiblestein. no!! however, the attached will explain the relation between: 1. david miller--florida. 2. jim elsman, aka elsmanstein, the lawyer=me. michigan. 3. bobbybible. bobbybiblestein. inimitable. california desert. it will take 3 readings to

Re: [TruthTalk] Covenant versus Contract--SAINTS, NOT SINNERS

2004-04-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
THIS WORRIES ME. WHAT DAVID MILLER WROTE BELOW CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED UPON. I VERY SELDOM AGREE WITH DAVID MILLER. BECAUSE THE SUBJECT IS SO GRAVE, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU PRINT- OUT WHAT DAVID WROTE AND TAPE IT TO YOUR "REFRIGERATOR", AS THE IMPORT IS SO MAJOR THAT IT MAY MAKE A NEW MAN OUT

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WE ARE SAINTS, NOT SINNERS OF THE GENTILES

2004-04-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
LANCE, SURE, I WILL EXPAND. I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE ALL CHRISTIANS, AND HAD WORKED OUT THESE SIMPLE PRELIMINARIES, AS I DO NOT ATTEND TO THIS LIST OFT, AND DO NOT KNOW THE COMPOSITION OF SUCH. TAKE WHAT DAVID WROTE RE "HOLINESS" , PLUS ADD: 1. DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT DO A PERFECT WORK, OR, JUST

Re: [TruthTalk] Covenant versus Contract--SAINTS, NOT SINNERS

2004-04-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 4/1/2004 5:15:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsman, Would you kindly turn down the volume? We can all read normal typeset. We are not deaf, dumb or blind. Or do you consider your points to be so insignificant that you must SCREAM them out at us in

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:APRIL FOOLS- Smithson discovers David will not follow to Hell

2004-04-01 Thread ELSMANLAW
JOHN, But, i am privy to such. You two (david and john) prostituted your opinions to support each other on another List. Now you realize that David is "Holiness", and that John is a Divorced Sinning -Religion Calvinist, and your relation is not so comfortable. Is it any wonder? That 5 ft.

Re: [TruthTalk] ELSMAN BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND...SUGGESTS PSALMS HYMNS SONGS

2004-03-31 Thread ELSMANLAW
SOMEONE WROTE TO ME AND ASKED WHY I WAS NOT ON T-T. IT REMINDED ME OF HOW BUSY I HAVE BEEN HOW UNAPPRECIATED---PERHAPS FOR GOOD REASON. I HAVE NOTED THE PRAYER AND FASTING ATTITUDE, BUT STILL THE POISON OF EVIL DRIPS FROM THIS SITE. WHAT CAN AN OLD MAN SAY, AFTER BEING SAVED SOME 50 YEARS, PLUS,

Re: [TruthTalk] Tough being a Christian--MORE PRECISION IN HEADLINES OF POSTS

2004-03-17 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 3/17/2004 1:07:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: I don't think you've got that exactly right, but you are close enough that it works for the purpose of this discussion. From my perspective, the Lord reveals his will to his

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:William takes Judy to the woodshed--NEW HEADER POLICY

2004-03-17 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 3/17/2004 9:23:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Re:William takes Judy to the "woodshed" Date:3/17/2004 9:23:45 AM Eastern Standard Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet AMEN BILL! At the

[TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA

2004-03-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
SAINTS ALIVE: EMERGENCY INTERRUPTION: A FRIEND OF DAVID MILLER AND YOUR NEW MEMBER, J.D., THE 5 FT., 270 LB. BUTTER-BALL FROM CALIF., CALLED ME OUT OF BED TO ANNOUNCE THAT I SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CONTACT MILLER AND J.D. SMITHSON WITH THIS ANNOUNCEMENT, AND I COULD ONLY THINK OF THIS VENUE. JIM

Re: [TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA

2004-03-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 3/11/2004 1:07:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Jim in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Thanks for the heads up. I knew about the foul workings of Miller's heart but not Smithson. Question now is are YOU ready to enter