Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress




interesting --perhapswhile yer curled upfondlingmyow 
myow,try to juxtapose your inadvertant underlying insightto 
the real point:



"but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really 
their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad 
or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're 
financing')]"




  ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  








..Wal-Mart? 
..they don’t pay enough or give enough benefits to those POOR people who 
work there so SAD! 



Re: [TruthTalk] TT w/o a moderator

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress



interesting


On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:06:54 -0800 (PST) 
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ||
  TT..w/o a Moderator..[has] done just 
  fine..
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress




.. it ain't that prettyat 
all

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  ||
  
  
  
  "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really 
  their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in 
  Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're 
  financing')]"


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress





On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  ..perhapswhile yer curled 
  upfondlingmyow myow..
  
  ..re-consideryour role in 
  repentance,even somerock starsaren't adverse to it, 
  e.g.,
  
  
  
  "_sitting_ under my blue sky of 
  deceptionthe colors run every time it rainswrought brought forth 
  fashioned from inceptionmy own hands and i take all the blame
  refrain:
  as the light goes outdarkness 
  with her bated breathwaits out on periphery of the camp firedecadence 
  and violence we do best
  burned out face down in the 
  gutterlowest point i could find to ground zeroroll back alibis and 
  skies are crushingdo we paint with much too black a brush
  rock and roll what is it any 
  moreyouth profound or profane to endurepassion in the back seat or at 
  the foot of the crossgoing going gone and finally lost" Bill Mallonee (BMI) 
©1997


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress





On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:19 -0700 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  .. it ain't that prettyat 
  all
  
  On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

||



"but Am. 
conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 
..



"Tweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee 
DeeThey're throwing knives into the treeTwo big bags of dead man's 
bonesGot their noses to the grindstones

Living in the Land of NodTrustin' their 
fate to the Hands of GodThey pass by so silentlyTweedle-dee Dum and 
Tweedle-dee Dee

Well, they're going to the country, they're 
gonna retireThey're taking a streetcar named DesireLooking in the window 
at the pecan pieLot of things they'd like they would never 
buy

Neither one gonna turn and runThey're 
making a voyage to the sun"His Master's voice is calling me,"Says 
Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee Dee

Tweedle-dee Dee and Tweedle-dee DumAll 
that and more and then someThey walk among the stately treesThey know 
the secrets of the breeze

Tweedle-dee Dum said to Tweedle-dee 
Dee"Your presence is obnoxious to me."They're like babies sittin' on a 
woman's kneeTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee Dee

Well, the rain beating down on my 
windowpaneI got love for you and it's all in vainBrains in the pot, 
they're beginning to boilThey're dripping with garlic and olive 
oil

Tweedle-dee Dee - he's on his hands and his 
kneesSaying, "Throw me somethin', Mister, please.""What's good for you 
is good for me,"Says Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee 
Dee

Well, they're living in a happy 
harmonyTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee DeeThey're one day older and a 
dollar shortThey've got a parade permit and a police 
escort

They're lying low and they're makin' 
hayThey seem determined to go all the wayThey run a brick and tile 
companyTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee Dee

Well a childish dream is a deathless 
needAnd a noble truth is a sacred creedMy pretty baby, she's lookin' 
aroundShe's wearin' a multi-thousand dollar gown

Tweedle-dee Dee is a lowdown, sorry old 
manTweedle-dee Dum, he'll stab you where you stand"I've had too much of 
your company,"Says, Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee 
Dee"
B Dylan :: Copyright © 2001 Special Rider Music 





Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress



ftr, particDaveH--* = an 
influentialphrase (to me)fromthe title of a Warren Zevon 
song,the best rendition of it iv'e heardby the Pixies with Zevon's 
son Jordanafter Warren's relatively recent death--on the Zevon 
post-mortemCD 'Enjoy Every Sandwich' (indeed:)



On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:55:51 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:19 -0700 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  

* .. it ain't that 
prettyat all



Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress



the pic isn't visible here, any chance 
you'd re-send it as an attachment to an email? thx

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I just wanted to say one last time that it has been such a joy getting to 
  know you all. I praise God for your wisdom and passion. Here's a 
  picture of me grinning ear-to-ear with my mom on Broadway a couple of months 
  ago. My father babysat all of my sisters back home while we two girls painted 
  the town red! I love you 
  all. -Christine
  
  
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Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress



 


(lol)

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:32:20 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  well, if you all are going to quit because I came on line -- 
  I'll just lurk.
  
  jd
  
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Noah Webster

2006-03-26 Thread ttxpress





On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:46:50 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Really up on social justice huh..?
  ||
  
  whateverrings true
  
  
"Sweet brother, if I do not sleep My eyes are flowers on your tomb 
And if I cannot eat my bread My fasts shall live like willows where 
you died If in the heat I find no water for my thirst My thirst 
shall turn to springs for you, poor traveler 
Come, in your labor find a resting place And in my sorrows lay your 
head Brother, take my life and bread And buy yourself a better bed 
Take my breath and take my death Buy yourself a better rest beneath 
the bells of Gethsemani 
When all the men of war are killed And flags have fallen into dust 
Your cross and mine will tell men still He died on each for both of 
us That we might become the brothers of God And learn to know the 
Christ of burnt men 
And the children are ringing the bells of Gethsemani 
For in the wreckage of your April Christ lies slain He weeps in the 
ruins of my spring The money of whose tears shall fall Into your 
weak and friendless hand And buy you back to your own land 
The silence of whose tears shall fall Like bells upon your alien tomb 
Hear them and come, they call you home And the children are ringing 
the bells of Gethsemani 
Yes, if they had been there They would have taken that crown of 
thorns from his hair And stayed for a while in that place of despair 
Ah, but what do I see, my brother is there And he's ringing the 
bells of Gethsemani"
(Music by Joan Baez, Words by Thomas Merton) 
© 1981 Gabriel Earl Music (ASCAP) 



Re: [TruthTalk] Noah Webster

2006-03-26 Thread ttxpress





On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:46:50 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Really up on social justice huh..?
  
  
  
  whatever rings 
  true
  
"Sweet brother, if I do not sleep My eyes are flowers on 
your tomb And if I cannot eat my bread My fasts shall live like 
willows where you died If in the heat I find no water for my thirst 
My thirst shall turn to springs for you, poor traveler 
Come, in your labor find a resting place And in my sorrows 
lay your head Brother, take my life and bread And buy yourself a 
better bed Take my breath and take my death Buy yourself a better 
rest beneath the bells of Gethsemani 
When all the men of war are killed And flags have fallen 
into dust Your cross and mine will tell men still He died on each 
for both of us That we might become the brothers of God And learn to 
know the Christ of burnt men 
And the children are ringing the bells of Gethsemani 
For in the wreckage of your April Christ lies slain He 
weeps in the ruins of my spring The money of whose tears shall fall 
Into your weak and friendless hand And buy you back to your own land 

The silence of whose tears shall fall Like bells upon your 
alien tomb Hear them and come, they call you home And the children 
are ringing the bells of Gethsemani 
Yes, if they had been there They would have taken that 
crown of thorns from his hair And stayed for a while in that place of 
despair Ah, but what do I see, my brother is there And he's ringing 
the bells of Gethsemani" 
(Music by Joan Baez, Words by Thomas Merton) 
© 1981 Gabriel Earl Music (ASCAP) 



Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



myth (apparently JCs compadre Peter 
(e.g.)could tell fromvarious Synoptic conversations inc the one in 
Matt 17thatMoseswasn't a liar; 
also,JC himself, 
whoneverwrote aword ofMoses' Pentateuchusually 
refered to it as to Scripture,by definition true,referring only to 
its author:Moses)


On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:16:18 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  ..Let God be true 
  and every man a liar
  
  --
  for ref:
  
  On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:10:15 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..[jt's] 
notion ['JC is Truth']..isbeyond falseness, it is 
implicitly untrue as is a lie,M'am


On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:05:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  As..we turn Genesis into a statement...
  jt: 
  ..it's 'a statement of TRUTH'

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



myth (feminists' rhetoric) 




  ||
  
  On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 ..Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  

..Let God be true 
and every man a liar
  -
  
  ..Funny 
  how some guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy? 
  iz


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



..mutual mouthymale 
mashing

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:32:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  myth (feminists' rhetoric) 
  
  
  
  
||

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 ..Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  ..Let God be 
  true and every man a liar
-

..Funny 
how some guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy? 
iz
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Divine Contingent Order

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



(good nite--thx for the subtle 
reminder:)

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:34:25 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  z
  
  -- 
Original message -- From: Judy Taylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Why? What do they do for you?
It's all about him, his thoughts, his opinions, the 
movies he sees, etc. etc.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:09:26 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  :-) I shall miss these pithy responses. 
  jd
  
  From: 
"Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

After reading you, I'm inclined toward a 
YES!

  From: Kevin Deegan 
  Was it a BIG 
  Bang?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  



When one seeks to apply the latter onto 
the former one is simply stymied. In failing to apprehend this one 
bangs one's head against the proverbial 
  wall.
  
  
  Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone 
  Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
  
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



..yer Words iz yer bond(age) 
Babe

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:38:47 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  Wow; now we are 
  accused of being feminists. LOL! iz
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:33 
  AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
  Creationism
  
  
  myth (feminists' rhetoric) 
  
  
  
  
  
  

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 ..Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  ..Let God be true and every man a 
  liar

-



..Funny how some 
guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy? 
iz
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



as the accumulating evidence 
suggests,certain Words doreveal preciselymanymonotonous 
mutualmonolithicmusingsmangling males


On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:39:37 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  Mealy mouthed 
  male.
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:37 
  AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
  Creationism
  
  
  ..mutual mouthymale 
  mashing
  
  
  
  On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:32:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

myth (feminists' rhetoric) 






  
  ||
  
  
  
  On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 ..Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

..Let God be true 
and every man a liar
  
  -
  
  
  
  ..Funny how some 
  guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy? 
  iz


  


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



which is certainly closer than ever 
toyouractual opinion

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:04:46 -0600 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  many 
  malesmangling monotonous 
  mutualmonolithicmusings
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress





On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:32:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] edits:

  
myth (the statement of a 
man of God inspired by the Spirit of God employed asfeminists' 
rhetoric) 



  ||
  
  On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 ..Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

..Let God be 
true and every man a liar
  -
  
  ..Funny how some 
  guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy? 
  iz

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



youractual opinion including 
its warp--can you take us even closer, to its 
woof??

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:24:30 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  many mentally mangled 
  malevolent males monotonous 
  mutualmonolithicmusings
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:20 
  AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
  Creationism
  
  
  which is certainly closer 
  than ever toyouractual 
  opinion
  
  
  
  On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:04:46 -0600 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
many 
malesmangling monotonous 
mutualmonolithicmusings
||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



myth[the writer'sa blamer 
with an evidentfeminist' bias,butAm. conservativeMuslim 
theoryain't really their fault: 
'eitherget our new WalMarts opened 
on timein Baghdad orface usblowin'youto (the 
other) hell (we're financing')]

||

  


We wouldn’t be 
HAVING a problem with Muslims if we hadn’t thrown God out of the government 
and schools a long time ago! (duh) 

||


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



..knewGod'sgrace

  
  We wouldn’t be HAVING 
  a problem with Muslims if 
we..


Re: [TruthTalk] Noah Webster

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



more 
evidenceof jt's implicit dualism

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:49:07 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [while eschatological] Proof of the pudding is 
  always in the eating...[is'nt] Australia..investing workers retirement 
  funds in[biblically questionable] Real Estate also[?]


Re: [TruthTalk] Noah Webster

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress



more 
evidenceof jt's implicit dualism

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:49:07 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [while eschatological] Proof of the pudding is 
  always in the eating...[is'nt] Australia..investing workers retirement 
  funds in[biblically questionable] Real Estate also[?]


Re: [TruthTalk] Noah Webster

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress




you'retrulyup to speed with 
worldliness--eh?

interestingly, 
e.g.,consistent withessential dualism,typical 
Word-babble
like the writer's, 
below/elsewhere,consistentlybanishes JC'sconcerns 
fromthe 
realm of (her) 
naturalloyalty--his politics isconveniently off limits (from 
her's)
while 
the 
biblicalSpiritis forbidden to 
touchthe working (of her) state-based 

mind

--


ftr, here'sthequotein question, juxtapose 
itwithmy question, below:

[jt:]
"I've just learned that Australia is investing workers 
retirement funds in US Real Estate also
So Lance and his prophet don't have a whole lot of 
support from "down under" either"


On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:04:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  It is world affairs that's all...
  .
  
  On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:33:31 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
more 
evidenceof jt's implicit dualism

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:49:07 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  [while eschatological] Proof of the pudding 
  is always in the eating...[is'nt] Australia..investing workers 
  retirement funds in[biblically questionable] Real Estate also[?]

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Noah Webster

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress





On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:04:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What was..that..Gary Olson? 
  ||
  
  "Oh my name it is nothin'My age it 
  means lessThe country I come fromIs called the MidwestI's taught 
  and brought up thereThe laws to abideAnd that land that I live 
  inHas God on its side.
  
  Oh the history books tell itThey tell 
  it so wellThe cavalries chargedThe Indians fellThe cavalries 
  chargedThe Indians diedOh the country was youngWith God on its 
  side..
  But now we got weaponsOf the chemical 
  dust If fire them we're forced toThen fire them we mustOne push of 
  the buttonAnd a shot the world wideAnd you never ask questionsWhen 
  God's on your side.
  
  In a many dark hourI've been thinkin' 
  about thisThat Jesus ChristWas betrayed by a kissBut I can't think 
  for youYou'll have to decideWhether Judas IscariotHad God on his 
  side.."
  B Dytlan :: Copyright © 1963; 
  renewed 1991 Special Rider 
  Music
  
  
  
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ttxpress



then Truth ain't 
JC

put yet another 
way, the notionmouthedisbeyond falseness, it is implicitly 
untrue as is a lie,M'am


On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:05:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  As..we turn Genesis into a statement...
  jt: 
  ..it's 'a statement of 
TRUTH'


Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson goes on and on and on

2006-03-24 Thread ttxpress



v insightful, 
Bro

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:33:06 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Get/[like 
  allow] the educator to admit that his world of knowing is not 
  that much different than the 
  Christian's and you have common ground with which to 
discuss.


Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread ttxpress



bullseye; v 
understandable, Bro!

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

||
..you are out there Lance, possiblyin the 
next orbit to Gary.


Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread ttxpress



..also,perceptively: 
 "The Lack of understanding 
is just laziness of thought and lack of effort."

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:23:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  bullseye; v 
  understandable, Bro!
  
  On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  
  ||
  ..you are out there Lance, possiblyin the 
  next orbit to Gary.
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread ttxpress



(he needsto be absolute 
onwhat he's 'high-fiving', Bro:)


On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:27:27 -0800 (PST) 
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

||

jd/*g:


  
  
  "Believe in God's word" is * [typical techno legalistic..] code 
  for * " * [we're all damned 
  goin' t'hell fer not] believe[ing] as [they tell 
  usto]."
  
  They make it sound as if they have* 
  [conquered the intellect with 
  truth].. and it turns out , they *[sense neither God's heart nor 
  mind]..


[TruthTalk] In sum

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress





On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:52:32 -0500 "David 
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:.. [so  so has no]method 
whatsoever to discern the truth of Scripture 
:



On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:27:27 -0800 (PST) 
Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the Bible has offered a *[partial but truthful] revelation concering Himself 
and His son
[*g]


---

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:12:34 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  TRUTH IS Jesus 
  Christ
  
  g: then, implicitly,you area 
liar


Re: [TruthTalk] In sum

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress



..adden~dum:

||

  
  
TRUTH IS [(e.g.)Joseph 
Smith]

g: then... (keep thinkin' about it:)
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress



myth (this writersubjugates us to 
her narrow notions, permits usnofaith in God per 
se)

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) 
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..
  
  jt:
  ppl of faith believe 
  God's Word 


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress



..tt evidence 
suggestsher nn's ain't 
biblical

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  myth (this writersubjugates us 
  to her narrow notions, 
  permits usnofaith in God per se)
  
  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) 
  Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..

jt:
ppl of faith 
believe God's Word 
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress



..*implicitly*

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:44:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..tt evidence 
  suggestsher nn's ain't 
  biblical
  
  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
myth (this writersubjugates us 
to her narrow notions, 
permits usnofaith in God per se)

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 
(PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..
  
  jt:
  *ppl of faith 
  believe God's Word* 

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress



..partic as "Word" isher trick 
word

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..*implicitly*
  
  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:44:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..tt evidence 
suggestsher nn's ain't 
biblical

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  myth (this writersubjugates 
  us to her narrow notions, permits usnofaith in God per 
  se)
  
  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 
  (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..

jt:
*ppl of faith 
believe God's Word* 
  

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



interesting eh, DavidM?

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:38:31 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ||Judy Taylor wrote: 
  

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:45 -0800..
I don't make up things that paint God into any 
corner..I go to a higher authority 



Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



myth (as alluded 
to,somethoughtful readersmaywanna explore the 
relationship betw jt's notions:'truth is JC'  is 'Jesus wasting 
[her] time'in pursuitof truth--how about you, 
Bro?)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:26:35 -0500 "David 
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ||
  1. Jesus said, "I am Truth." 
  
  
  2. Jesus is 
  Truth.
  
  3. Truth is 
  Jesus.
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



i know

so which of the three utterances do you 
like most, 1., 2. or 3.?

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:26:35 -0500 "David 
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I like what Judy 
  said. 
  
  ---
  
  for ref:
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: 
  Judy Taylor 
  
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 06, 2006 
12:34
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive 
  Gospel.
  
  
  
  1.
  Jesus said "Thy 
  Word..not part of the 
  truth.
  
  ||
  
  
  
  2.
  On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -0500 Judy 
  Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Understanding is not 
the issue here Lance 
  
  3.
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy 
  Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..Jesus wasting 
time..
||


Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



..or is it #4? 

(take all the time in the world, 
Bro,esp if youreally most likeher notion thatJC 
himselfwasted his)


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:38:31 -0800 Dave 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ||Judy Taylor wrote: 
  
  

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:45 
-0800..
I don't make up 
things that paint God into any corner..I go to a higher 
authority 


--


On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:09:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  i know
  
  so which of the three utterances do 
  you like most, 1., 2. or 3.?
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:26:35 -0500 "David 
  Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I like what Judy 
said. 

---

for ref:


- Original Message - 

From: 
Judy Taylor 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 06, 2006 
12:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive 
Gospel.



1.
Jesus said 
"Thy Word..not part of the 
truth.

||



2.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Understanding is 
  not the issue here Lance 

3.

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..Jesus wasting 
  time..
  ||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



..actually, on #4, DaveH may lean a 
little toward it himself

..but what do you 
think,like, couldhe  jt be onto somethingbetter than 
wastingtime with JC?

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:29:11 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..or is it #4? 
  
  (take all the time in the world, 
  Bro,esp if youreally most likeher notion 
  thatJC himselfwasted his)
  
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:38:31 -0800 Dave 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
||Judy Taylor wrote: 


  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:45 
  -0800..
  I don't make up 
  things that paint God into any corner..I go to a higher 
  authority 
  
  
  --
  
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:09:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
i know

so which of the three utterances do 
you like most, 1., 2. or 3.?

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:26:35 -0500 
"David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I like what Judy 
  said. 
  
  ---
  
  for ref:
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 06, 2006 
  12:34
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] An 
  Offensive Gospel.
  
  
  
  1.
  Jesus said 
  "Thy Word..not part of the 
  truth.
  
  ||
  
  
  
  2.
  On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -0500 
  Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Understanding is 
not the issue here Lance 
  
  3.
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 
  Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..Jesus wasting 
time..
||

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress





On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  ..[apprehend, e.g., 2+2=4; 
  icebergs melt fasterastemperature rises; chickens come from eggs, 
  vice versa], apprehend Truth...
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



myth (note the 
quotes)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  .. 
  apprehend Christ..
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



..in her 
psyche, the writer already knows the notion is 
suspect

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:28:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  myth (note the 
  quotes)
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

.. 
apprehend Christ..
||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] torrance and logic

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



myth (for one 
thing, in your viewthe KJV is morebasicthanthe 'basic 
axiom')

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:51:29 -0800 (PST) 
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  God is the basic 
  axiom.


Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



..the difference 
betw her  Pilate is that his language, implicitly, his notion of having 
'apprehended'JC, is suspect

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:41:10 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..in her 
  psyche, the writer already knows the notion is 
  suspect
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:28:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
myth (note the 
quotes)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  .. 
  apprehend Christ..
  ||

  


Re: [TruthTalk] torrance and logic

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



.. what, 
brotherman,outside of your subjective judgmentis axiomatic about the 
KJV?

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:52:21 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  myth (for one 
  thing, in your viewthe KJV is morebasicthanthe 'basic 
  axiom')
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:51:29 -0800 (PST) 
  Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
God is the basic 
axiom.
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress




..e.g., 
"Take a guard..Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how" means 
thatPilate knew, implictly,that he never could 'wash 
his hands' ofJC (who was, quiteinterestingly, apprehending 
him)


On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:11:47 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..the difference 
  betw her  Pilate is that his language, implicitly, his notion of having 
  'apprehended'JC, is suspect
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:41:10 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..in her 
psyche, the writer already knows the notion is 
suspect

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:28:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  myth (note 
  the quotes)
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

.. 
apprehend Christ..
||
  

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ttxpress



*- 
**

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:21:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  *
  ..e.g., "Take a guard..Go, make the tomb as secure as 
  you know how"indicates thatPilate[realized]that he never could 
  'wash his hands' ofJC (who was, quiteinterestingly, apprehending 
  him)
  
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:11:47 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
**
..the 
difference betw her  Pilate[rests 
inPilateconfronting]his notion of having 
'apprehended'JC


---


On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:41:10 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..in her 
  psyche, the writer already knows the notion is 
  suspect
  
  On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:28:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
myth (note 
the quotes)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  .. 
  apprehend Christ..
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ttxpress



no charge--to a v rich man 
who (also) had defected to the perspective oftheRoman 
Empire'sforemost radical critic

the NT tells us that Pilate not 
only defied his dream-wife (feminist nightmare?), he daringly defied Caesar 
himself, from whom orders later came to seal JCs tomb  post around the 
clock guardsthere to keep JCsdisciples fromthe 
body

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:21:26 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
..Joseph, who had himself become a disciple 
of Jesus. Going to Pilate, 
he asked for Jesus' body, and Pilate 
ordered that it be given to him... Matt 27NIV


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ttxpress



..another large crowd gathered...[in 
a province of Rome that] 
had nothing to eat, [so] 
Jesus called his 
disciples to him and said, 
"I have 
compassion for these people.. ©Mark

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..Jesus wasting time..
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ttxpress



.."You know that those 
who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, 

and their high 
officials exercise authority over them.." 


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:22:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..another large crowd 
  gathered...[in a province of Rome that] 
  had nothing to eat, [so] 
  Jesus called his 
  disciples to him and said, 
  "I have 
  compassion for these people.. ©Mark
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
..Jesus wasting time..
||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ttxpress



"..they have already been 
with me three days and have nothing to 
eat.."

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:22:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..another large crowd 
  gathered...[in a province of Rome that] 
  had nothing to eat, 
  [so] Jesus called 
  his disciples to him and said, 
  "I have 
  compassion for these people.. ©Mark
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
..Jesus wasting time..
||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ttxpress



"Caesar Augustus issued a decree that 
a census should be taken of the entire Roman world." 
©Luke 


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:00:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  .."You know that 
  those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, 
  
  and their high 
  officials exercise authority over them.." 
  
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:22:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..another large crowd 
gathered...[in a province of Rome that] 
had nothing to eat, [so] 
Jesus called 
his disciples to him and said, 
"I have 
compassion for these people.. ©Mark

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  ..Jesus wasting time..
  ||

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ttxpress



..Jesus..went to..the villages around 
Caesarea...along with his disciples and said: 

"..What good is 
it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? 
©Mark 


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:12:05 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  "Caesar Augustus issued a decree 
  that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world." 
  ©Luke 
  
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:00:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
.."You know that 
those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, 

and their high 
officials exercise authority over them.." 


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:22:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..another large crowd 
  gathered...[in a province of Rome that] 
  had nothing to eat, 
  [so] Jesus 
  called his disciples to him and said, 
  "I have 
  compassion for these people.. ©Mark
  
  On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:41:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
..Jesus wasting time..
||
  

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress




18:37 
NIV:

"You are a 
king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus 
answered, 
"You are right in saying 
I am a king. 
In fact, for this reason I 
was born, 
and for this I came into the 
world, 
to testify to the truth. 
Everyone on 

the side of truth listens to 
me." 



On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 "David 
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:"every one that is of the truth heareth my 
voice" (Jn 18:37)



Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress




myth 


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 "David 
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:..'truth is Jesus 
Christ'||There is a wide latitude of meaning in this 
statement


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



..("I came into the 
world, to testify to the 
truth."

..actually, there'sa 
certainlatitude in this, 
above,deniedbythat, below)

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:23:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  myth 
  
  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 "David 
  Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:..'truth is Jesus 
  Christ'||There is a wide latitude of meaning in this 
  statement
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



..(e.g.) JC himself thinks David  
Moseswrote thetruth about JC himself, Bro

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:56:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..("I came into 
  the world, to testify 
  to the truth."
  
  ..actually, there'sa 
  certainlatitude in this, 
  above,deniedbythat, below)
  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:23:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  

myth 


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 
"David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:..'truth is Jesus 
Christ'||There is a wide latitude of meaning in 
this statement

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



..You, [Pilate, like Moses  David,] are 
right in saying I am a king


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:40:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  18:37 
  NIV:
  
  "You are a 
  king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus 
  answered, 
  "You are right in saying 
  I am a king. 
  In fact, for this reason I 
  was born, 
  and for this I came into 
  the world, 
  to testify to the truth. 
  Everyone on 
  
  the side of truth listens 
  to me." 
  
  
  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 "David 
  Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:"every one that is of the truth 
  heareth my voice" (Jn 18:37)
  
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



...I was born [so 
you and any other's like you, Pilate, who want to do so, can come to terms with 
me like my favorite ancient Poets did:)]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:16:45 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..You, [Pilate, like Moses  David,] 
  are right in saying I am a king
  
  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:40:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  

18:37 NIV:

"You are a 
king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus 
answered, 
"You are right in saying 
I am a king. 
In fact, for this reason 
I was born, 
and for this I came into 
the world, 
to testify to the truth. 
Everyone on 

the side of truth listens 
to me." 



On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 
"David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:"every one that is of the 
truth heareth my voice" (Jn 18:37)


  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress




"1 Lord, you have been our dwelling place 
 throughout all generations. 
2 Before 
the mountains were born  or you brought 
forth the earth and the world,  from 
everlasting to everlasting you are God. 
3 You 
turn men back to dust,  saying, "Return 
to dust, O sons of men." 
4 For a 
thousand years in your sight  are like a 
day that has just gone by,  or like a 
watch in the night. 
5 You 
sweep men away in the sleep of death;  
they are like the new grass of the morning- 
6 though 
in the morning it springs up new,  by 
evening it is dry and withered. 
7 We are 
consumed by your anger  and terrified by 
your indignation. 
8 You 
have set our iniquities before you,  our 
secret sins in the light of your presence. 
9 All 
our days pass away under your wrath;  we 
finish our years with a moan. 
10 The 
length of our days is seventy years—  or 
eighty, if we have the strength;  yet 
their span [a] is but trouble and sorrow, 
 for they quickly pass, and we fly away. 

11 Who 
knows the power of your anger?  For your 
wrath is as great as the fear that is due you. 
12 Teach 
us to number our days aright,  that we 
may gain a heart of wisdom. 
13 
Relent, O LORD! How long will it be?  
Have compassion on your servants. 
14 
Satisfy us in the morning with your unfailing love, 
 that we may sing for joy and be glad 
all our days. 
15 Make 
us glad for as many days as you have afflicted us, 
 for as many years as we have seen 
trouble. 
16 May 
your deeds be shown to your servants,  
your splendor to their children. 
17 May 
the favorof the Lord our God rest upon us; 
 establish the work of our hands for us— 
 yes, establish the work of our hands." 

©Moses (Ps 90)

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:22:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ...I was born [so 
  you and any other's like you, Pilate, who want to do so, can come to terms 
  with me like my favorite ancient Poets did:)]
  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:16:45 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..You, [Pilate, like Moses  David,] 
are right in saying I am a king


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:40:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  18:37 NIV:
  
  "You are a 
  king, then!" said Pilate. 
  Jesus answered, 
  
  "You are right in 
  saying I am a king. 
  In fact, for this 
  reason I was born, 
  and for this I came 
  into the world, 
  to testify to the 
  truth. Everyone on 
  the side of truth 
  listens to me." 
  
  
  
  On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0500 
  "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:"every one that is of the truth heareth 
  my voice" (Jn 18:37)
  
  

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



it's quite possible that both Pilate 
 I think that's trueabout JC

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:18:36 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I AM the Way, the Truth, and the 
  Life


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



precisely--that's exactly the point: in 
your dualistic view allbooks but the KJVare 
lies

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:50:13 -0500 Judy Taylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Only necessary for the non 
  inspired versions..The KJV has no 
  Copyright..


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



myth (your presumptive dualismis 
characterized bytwo absolutes bothrooted in 
arrogance)

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:02:49 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [Pilate]knew nothing 
  about Truth


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



myth (why'dPilate's 
wifeinstruct him: "Don't have anything to do with that innocent man" 
?)

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:26:42 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Pilate did not recognize 
  the Truth 


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress




myth(female intuition at its 
finest, eh, "Don't have anything to do with that 
innocent man"?)


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:26:42 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  His wife had more 
sense


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



myth 

(E.g, ..As evening approached, 
there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a 
disciple of Jesus. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus' body, and Pilate 
ordered that it be given to him... Matt 
27NIV)


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:26:42 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Pilate did not recognize 
  the Truth when it stoodright there before him
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



myth (i know 
who'llspeaktruthfully toardent feminists through 
truthfulvoices like Moses')

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:28:21 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..God does speak to womenyou know.. 
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress







  ..there came a rich man from Arimathea, named 
  Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. 
  
  Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus' body, and 
  Pilate ordered that it be given to him... Matt 
  27NIV


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress



but apparently he loved her less than he 
loved JC while
biblical evidence suggests he didn't pay 
a bit of attention 
to her, which plainlymeans (inyour scenario) that he 
never
perceived her so-called'love' as 
amounting to 
anything 
but
a lie, which alsodrives homethe main point: 

'truth is Jesus Christ' is a 
philosophical hound that 
don't hunt biblically

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:19:20 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Should be obvious - she loved her husband 
  
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread ttxpress





On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:21:26 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..Joseph, who had himself become a disciple 
  of Jesus. Going to Pilate, 
  he asked for Jesus' body, and Pilate 
  ordered that it be given to him... Matt 
  27NIV
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Copyright Question

2006-03-16 Thread ttxpress




beon guard, o 
canada©

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:18:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Dave[H]:You appear rather exercised over this 
  matter. Why is this such a 'hot button' issue for you?..
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Hello

2006-03-16 Thread ttxpress



myth 

[jt insists that'truth is Jesus 
Christ';
Conor says he is a college 
student,not Jesus Christ;
therefore, both quite rationally  
implicitly,(a) 'liar is 
whom'?] 


On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:49:11 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  thanks for sharing 
  aboutyourself


Re: [TruthTalk] Hello

2006-03-16 Thread ttxpress



onecould allow for that, 
Bro,partic since it ain't a copyrighted comment :)

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:34:19 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  DAVEH: Could that have been a typo, G..perhaps you 
  meant.. mirth[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

myth 

[jt* insists that'truth is 
Jesus Christ';
Conor says he is a college 
student,not Jesus Christ;
therefore, both quite rationally 
 implicitly,(a) 'liar is whom'?] 


On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:49:11 -0500 Judy 
Taylor *JndgT[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  thanks for sharing 
  aboutyourself-- 
~~~
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.com
~~~
If you wish to receive
things I find interesting,
I maintain six email lists...
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Re: [TruthTalk] Hello

2006-03-16 Thread ttxpress



..yet

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:44:46 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  onecould allow for that, 
  Bro,partic since it ain't a copyrighted comment :)
  
  On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:34:19 -0800 Dave 
  Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
DAVEH: Could that 
have been a typo, G..perhaps you meant.. mirth[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  
  myth 
  
  [jt* insists 
  that'truth is Jesus Christ';
  Conor says he is a college 
  student,not Jesus Christ;
  therefore, both quite rationally 
   implicitly,(a) 'liar is whom'?] 
  
  
  On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:49:11 -0500 
  Judy Taylor *JndgT[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
thanks for sharing 
aboutyourself-- 
~~~
Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.com
~~~
If you wish to receive
things I find interesting,
I maintain six email lists...
JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS,
STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Copyright Question

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress




yes

[E.g., you know Bob Dylan to some degree 
(didn't you say he's got one of your leather jackets?);
perhaps write, through his internet 
site,and askhim to check out the TT archives for a© 
violation
( let us know what he 
says:)]


On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:24:38 -0800 Dave 
Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:"[is] copyrightedmaterial.. 
freely available [through 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]?]"



Re: [TruthTalk] The Secular versus the Religious

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress



..was written by whom--anybody 
know/anything about this v interesting person virtually banished from Am. 
history?



On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:03:44 -0500 "David 
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..[the Am. constitutional]Bill of 
  Rights ..


Re: [TruthTalk] The Secular versus the Religious

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress



..ftr, this v interestingperson also wrote the (historic)French 
BoR

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:05:31 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..was written by whom--anybody 
  know/anything about this v interesting person virtually banished from Am. 
  history?
  
  
  
  On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:03:44 -0500 "David 
  Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
..[the Am. constitutional]Bill of 
Rights ..
  


Re: [TruthTalk] The Secular versus the Religious

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress




nope


On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:19:17 + 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Ben Franklin?  
 -- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ..ftr, this v interesting person also wrote the 
(historic) French  BoROn Wed, 15 Mar 2006 
20:05:31 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  ..was written by whom--anybody 
know/anything about this v  interesting person virtually banished from 
Am. history?On Wed, 15 
Mar 2006 13:03:44 -0500 "David Miller"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes: ..[the Am. constitutional] Bill 
of Rights ..   




Re: [TruthTalk] The Secular versus the Religious

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress



nope

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:31:06 + 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..Is the correct answer to G's 
  question ... R W? 
  
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] The Secular versus the Religious

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress



ciao

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:38:18 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have to go eat, now. Funny, but I seriously thought I was 
  taught this in school. Ah ! Old age. I do 
  want to know. History is a most interesting topic. 
  
  
  Here's a news flash -- I am giving up on Sean 
  Hannity. The past three weeks have been very 
  disappointing. For some reason -- the bulldog thingy doesn't 
  appeal to me, anymore. And I think he was so wrong about the Ports 
  business. Rush is nowhere near as hardcore as 
  Hannity -- both are on our local KMJ radio station. 
  
  Anyway -- off to good eats.
  
  John
  
  -- 
Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


nope


On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:19:17 + 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Ben Franklin?  
 -- Original message 
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ..ftr, this v interesting person also wrote the 
(historic) French  BoROn Wed, 15 Mar 
2006 20:05:31 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  ..was written by 
whom--anybody know/anything about this v  interesting person 
virtually banished from Am. history? 
   On Wed, 15 Mar 20 06 13:03:44 -0500 "David Miller" 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes: ..[the Am. 
constitutional] Bill of Rights ..   



  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Dylan

2006-03-15 Thread ttxpress



..yo DaveH, send this to Bob  ask 
him where he got the idea:)

  On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:22:43 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  "..There's always some new stranger 
  sneakin' glancesSome trigger-happy fool willin' to take chancesAnd 
  some old whore from San Pedro to make advancesAdvances on your spirit and 
  your soul.
  
  The businessmen from Taos want you to go 
  downThey've hired Pat Garrett to force a showdown._Billy_, don't it 
  make ya feel so low-downTo be shot down by the man who was your 
  friend?
  
  Hang on to your woman if you got 
  oneRemember in El Paso, once, you shot one.She may have been a whore, 
  but she was a hot oneBilly, you been runnin' for so 
  long.
  
  Guitars will play your grand 
  finaleDown in some Tularosa alleyMaybe in the Rio Pecos 
  valleyBilly, you're so far away from home."
  B Dylan :: Copyright © 1972 Ram's Horn 
  Music 
  

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:12:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

know ye not that the friendship of the world is 
enmity with God? 

whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world 
is the enemy of God.Lance Muir 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  



- Original Message - 

From: Debbie Sawczak 

To: 'Lance Muir' 
Sent: March 11, 2006 22:35
Subject: Dylan

Watching the 
Dylan documentary reminded me how much I like that music. Not just Dylan 
but 
||




  


Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-12 Thread ttxpress





On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:57:23 + 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  DH -- ..How long have you known Deegan and Moore and how 
  much closer to convertin are you now -- after hearing them 
  "preach" ..[law] these many 
  years? 
  
  jd
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH is a pagan ?????

2006-03-12 Thread ttxpress



ftr,someone 
who knows, post pls the moderator's complete list ofthe 
characteristics ofChrist, both what Christ is  what Christ is 
not

is 'pagan' a 
technical word as narrow as 'deviating from the moderator's list', 
above?

how did the 
moderator come by his conclusions, below, given that the thread is titled as a 
question?



On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:29:37 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  ||
  you are worshipping 
  anotherChrist- therefore you..are a 
Pagan


Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-12 Thread ttxpress



won't itbe v 
interesting if DaveH gets 
it,Bro?

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:37:14 + 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You are safe, with this, G. I 
  andprobably Lance will be the only ones who get 
  !!
  For the record, I completely 
  disagree with this characterization -- but it is 
  funny.
  
  jd
  
  -- Original message 
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:57:23 + 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  DH -- ..How long have you 
  known Deegan and Moore and how much closer to convertin are you now 
  -- after hearing them "preach" ..[law] 
  these many years? 
  
  jd
  ||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-12 Thread ttxpress



"..[while] the rulers gather 
togetheragainst the LORDand against his Anointed One...Blessed 
are all who take refuge in Him."

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:53:43 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  ..intensely interesting
  
  _Jesus was an only son_As he walked 
  up Calvary HillHis mother Mary walking beside himIn the path where his 
  blood spilledJesus was an only sonIn the hills of NazarethAs he 
  lay reading the Psalms of DavidAt his mother's feetA mother prays, 
  "Sleep tight, my child, sleep wellFor I'll be at your sideThat no 
  shadow, no darkness, no tolling bell,Shall pierce your dreams this 
  night"In the garden at GethsemaneHe prayed for the life he'd never 
  live,He beseeched his Heavenly Father to removeThe cup of death from 
  his lipsNow there's a loss that can never be replaced,A 
  destination that can never be reachedA light you'll never find in 
  another's face,A sea whose distance cannot be breachedWell Jesus 
  kissed his mother's handsWhispered, "Mother, still your tears,For 
  remember the soul of the universeWilled a world and it 
  appeared"
  ©Bruce Springsteen, 
  2005
  
  On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:45:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  

interesting


||

"keep your filthy..Theology away from 
me."
 
 --Kevin, Fri, 10 Mar 
2006 09:02:36 -0800 (PST) 

||Lance Muir 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  


Whether[any of us]is a true believer 
is known only to God. 
All of us are entitled to 
critique[each 
others']theological framework. 
||

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Dylan

2006-03-12 Thread ttxpress



"..There's always some new stranger 
sneakin' glancesSome trigger-happy fool willin' to take chancesAnd some 
old whore from San Pedro to make advancesAdvances on your spirit and your 
soul.

The businessmen from Taos want you to go 
downThey've hired Pat Garrett to force a showdown._Billy_, don't it make 
ya feel so low-downTo be shot down by the man who was your 
friend?

Hang on to your woman if you got 
oneRemember in El Paso, once, you shot one.She may have been a whore, 
but she was a hot oneBilly, you been runnin' for so 
long.

Guitars will play your grand finaleDown 
in some Tularosa alleyMaybe in the Rio Pecos valleyBilly, you're so 
far away from home."
B Dylan :: Copyright © 1972 Ram's Horn 
Music 

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:12:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  know ye not that the friendship of the world is 
  enmity with God? 
  whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is 
  the enemy of God.Lance Muir 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  



- Original Message - 

From: Debbie Sawczak 

To: 'Lance Muir' 
Sent: March 11, 2006 22:35
Subject: Dylan

Watching the 
Dylan documentary reminded me how much I like that music. Not just Dylan but 

||





Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ttxpress



ftr,the Psalmsspeak of the Blessing 
already found todayby those who take refuge in 'the Lord', but not 
inthose whose 'Coddling sin results 
in spineless, wimpy, self-absorbed babies', e.g.,:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:01:48 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  ..live up these 
  words. I suspect you are better at it than I 
  (am).
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



myth (Legalism your fathercourts 
Dualism your motherSpawns)

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:33:52 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Choose one 
  Intellect or Heart..ShieldsFamily 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  








Please research for 
us how many times “heart” is in scripture vs. “intellect”. Thanks, 
iz
||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



myth (also, the 
lack of certainty reveals the shallowness of the threat written with 
hostility)

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:18:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  ||
  
You seem to twist truth ..For the 
sake of your soul I suggest you heed these 
words.

||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



it's on his _Devils  
Dust_CD--refreshing thoughtful 
music

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:27:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  My wife and I loved it . A remarkable set of 
  words... 
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



interesting

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:11:41 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What's all this for? 
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



..dualism done got up 
fled him..or, maybe he'sfleeing 
it?

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:12:46 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..Springsteen . go figure 
  
  
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



interesting

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Understanding is not the issue here Lance 
  


Re: [TruthTalk] JOHN: An extended discussion on Person/Persons/Personhood including you, BT and, DM

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



interesting

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:22:01 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ||
  
  Calvinists..arewithout understanding...
  ||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress




interesting


On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) 
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Just what is a 
  nuance..?
  
  ||
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



DavidM has some 
grace, it appears, sortalike DaveH's; thoroughgoing legalism sounds like 
it'sgonna whipsome adult'sass likea child's 
legalism questioning 'understanding' alsosanctions 
it


On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:34:50 -0500 Judy 
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ||
  
  You should be extolling 
  his grace(Dean's that is)
  
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



interesting, it's your magic word--eh?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:15:09 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  She said SCRIPTURE.. 
  
  ||


Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-11 Thread ttxpress



interesting--evidencesuggestsyou'rereadg'SCRIPTURE'withoutknowing 
the writer




On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:18:15 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  Im not going to read 
  this if you cant identify the writeriz
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Lance 
  MuirSent: Saturday, March 
  11, 2006 12:05 PMTo: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - 
  friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens 
  
  
  
  Well, since I'm being asked for a 
  response on this...my initial feeling is that we need to live in the real 
  world
  ||


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