Probably better that we don't, 'cuz I was going to
arguewhy you were all wet with this one :)
Bill
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:27
PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Oh
Happily. J Iz
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Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005
7:12 AM
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News!
Probably better that we don't, 'cuz
I was going to arguewhy you were all
Helps
clarify between John the Dunker and John the Sprinkler.
--
slade
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News
Terry, I see YOU as a disciple of Jesus.
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From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 17, 2005 14:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Lance Muir wrote:
Sectarianism DOES INDEED EXIST ON TT!! Please, someone correct
I don't know what you mean about 'maturity'John -
I do know this to be the context for the wordperfect in some other places
but in 1 Cor 13:10'complete' would be better. We can know it refers
to Christ rather than the Bible because
of the setting ie: "Love never fails, now we see
through a
Judy wrote:
Please don't say when that which is perfect has come
because that which is perfect is Christ Himself and He
has yet to come. *
John wrote:
This is clearly speaking of maturity -- that is if immediate
context means anything at all.
Not only context supports what you are
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry, I see YOU as a disciple of Jesus.
===
Thank you Lance. That is very important to me. I wish that everyone
could see that, but I am afraid that it shows so seldom that most miss
it when it happens.
Terry
--
Let your
It seems to me that the only parts
that get saved are the parts that get wet. J Izzy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
4:30 AM
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News
I see the smilen face and assume you are joking.
Tell me you are joking . . .
Bill
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:31
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!
It seems to me
I respectfully disagree,
Terry. Iz
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On Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:21 AM
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Lance Muir wrote:
Terry, I see YOU
Im a believer in going all the way
on a good thingy. Izzy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
8:40 AM
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News!
I see the smilen face
In a message dated 1/18/2005 3:09:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't know what you mean about 'maturity' John - I do know this to be the context for the word perfect in some other places but in 1 Cor 13:10 'complete' would be better. We can know it refers to Christ
inyour
resurrectionrubric, that'd be when?
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:30:08 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "David Miller"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't disagree with the idea
that['the perfect']refers to the time of the
resurrection,
Oh, please lets dont go
there. J Izzy
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On Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
8:30 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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News!
I'm fine with that, Izzy --as
long
DAVEH: Does the NC allow for Jesus having a physical body of flesh and
bones today?
Gregory A. Hession J.D. wrote:
The council of Nicea was a multiyear assembly
of nearly every bishop in the church, bathed in prayer, and intent on
dealing with heresy which had attempted to demean
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 16, 2005 23:57
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
John wrote:
We will never have unity based
upon all saying the same thing
John, please do not overlook what I wrote in a previous post, which was:
Please offer us some
] Good News!
Excellent post, Debbie, but please do reconsider some of your syntax to
line
up with Biblical language.
For example, you wrote:
The apostles Paul and James (to go back to a previous post)
ultimately believed in the same Good News, but in emphasizing
different things
-Original
Message-From: David Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Monday, January 17, 2005 12:46 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!Excellent post, Debbie, but please do
reconsider some of your syntax to lineup with Biblical language.For
example, you wrote
: Sunday, January 16, 2005
11:15 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!
I may have been guilty of stretching the
Scriptural body analogy there. But if we really are going to say the same thing
(even if in slightly different words), we may as well not converse
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Titus 3:1Remind
them 2to malign no one,to
be peaceable, gentle, showing every consideration for all men.
3For we also once were foolish
ourselves, disobedient, deceived, enslaved to various lusts and
pleasures,
spending our life in malice and envy,
Good reminder. Thanks Izzy
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:55:17 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Titus 3:1Remind
them 2to malign no one,to be
peaceable, gentle, showing every consideration for all men.
3For we also once were
foolish ourselves, disobedient, deceived,
Must confess that I didn't have much clue about what
Avram and Josef was trying to say. But seemingly this is another example of how
tradition conflicts with or makes of no
effect the truth of scripture.
There is a very clear separation of sacred
vs profane all through the scriptures and
Lance wrote:
David, we are! 'The good news of the gospel
of Jesus' Is it not sectarianism that is being
addressed in this passage? Some say 'I am of
David(that would be Linda), others say 'I am
of Judy' and so on. Indeed, David, sectarianism
does and must exist on TT. Even DaveH speaks
of
interpretation.
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 17, 2005 12:47
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Lance wrote:
David, we are! 'The good news of the gospel
of Jesus' Is it not sectarianism that is being
addressed
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:24
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Titus
3:1Remind them
2to
malign no one,to be peaceable, gentle, showing every consideration for all
men. 3For we also once were foolish ourselves
Lance Muir wrote:
Sectarianism DOES INDEED EXIST ON TT!! Please, someone correct either myself
or David on this. Further, Linda does indeed say what amounts to, I am of
David. (Linda, please illustrate for us with what frequency you 'amen'
David (WOW that was an awesome post, David!) Sorry David,
of Breslov
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 14:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Sectarianism DOES INDEED EXIST ON TT!! Please, someone correct either
myself
or David on this. Further, Linda does
Bill Taylor wrote:
If
we are one in Christ we will at least be united enough to avoid the
behavior described above in Titus 3. We will be of one accord; each
having different gifts and callings, but peaceably agreeable with each
other even when we disagree. Izzy
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Sectarianism DOES INDEED EXIST ON TT!! Please, someone correct either
myself
or David on this. Further, Linda does indeed say what amounts to,
I am of
David. (Linda, please illustrate for us with what frequency you
'amen'
David (WOW
Terry writes:
That is kind of an inside joke in our home church, Bill. It is all
too common, at least here in the Bible Belt, to hear that from deacons and
pastors. People question why we prefer to meet in homes, and we in turn
question some of the things done in the institutional church.
Lance wrote:
Further, Linda does indeed say what amounts
to, I am of David. (Linda, please illustrate for
us with what frequency you 'amen' David
(WOW that was an awesome post, David!)
Sorry David, but ya gots at least one disciple.
Linda also has disagreed with some of my posts. Expressing
e.g., the Prophetic
tradition terminatd, acc to Scripture
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:45:25 -0500
"David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:.. the fruitfulness of
tradition is often temporary.
What scripture?
Please don't say "when that which is perfect has come"
because that which is perfect is
Christ Himself and He has yet to come.
jt
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:53:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
e.g., the Prophetic
tradition terminatd, acc to Scripture
On Mon, 17
hich he is not relevant.
I'm
confident we would agree on that.
Debbie
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:54
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
Must confes
first, what do you mean by
*this*?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:02:57 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What scripture? *Please don't say
"when that which is perfect has come" because that which is perfect
is
Christ Himself and He has yet to
come.*
You didn't give the scripture to support your
claim
And I've already heard the arguments from your
tradition. jt
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:13:56 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
first, what do you mean by
*this*?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:02:57 -0500
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting perspective Debbie - I can agree that he
(God)is relevant in all areas and that he does havethe supreme claim
to our lives. However, this is mainly theory because facts are He will not
intrude where we don't want Him and
if we prefer to do things our way, He lets us. He gave
it was nice talkin'with
ya
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:28:33 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You didn't give the scripture to support your
claim
And I've already heard the arguments from your
tradition. jt
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:13:56 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You don't have to run off if I am wrong and you have
some other foundational scriptureto support your
claim that propecy is a thing of the past. The argument
I always heard was "that which is perfect is the
Bible" and this is why prophecy is no longer
needed. Is this your stance?
On Mon, 17
what does this
mean/imply?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:50:01 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..if..you have some other foundational
scripture
||
Do you have any scripture other than the one I
mentioned to support why you
believe that the prophetic gifting is not for
today?
I have a question also - what kind of ISP do you hav?
It amazes me how fast
these messages get from CO to VA
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:03:41 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onceyou hit send,delivery could take well nigh to 20 milliseconds!
Message Queing may take up to a minute or two, or asecond on a fast serverJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have any scripture other than the one I mentioned to support why you
believe that the prophetic gifting is not
A. i don't recognize your
question in a live/crucial cntxt
B. ISP:
Netzero
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:10:06 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[A.]Do you have any scripture other than the one I
mentioned to support why you
believe that the prophetic gifting is
not for
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005
14:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News!I have a bad habit of sometimes responding without enough fore
thought to how it might be received. Need to work on that. I have
zinged Jeff twice this month and now I have to await his revenge. His
Thanks Kevin and Gary for the answer to [B], Juno and
Netzero are in cahoots
but I'm still amazed by the speed.
As for [A] What exactly is a "live/crucial context?"
That's a new one on me.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:25:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A. i don't recognize your
question
: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
Hi
Judy, let me paraphrase/periphrase "there is no sacred vs profane", as that is
a dualism perhaps unfamiliar to you, which uses the word "profane" differently
than the texts you mention below."There is no sacred vs
profane"
e.g. in a micro sense, the Ap
Paulpaints eschatology inartcomplementary tothe Ap
John's; independent artists yet togethr,perhaps unwittingly except for the
HS upon them, they are the synergistic composers of a tangibleNT
'l/cc'
in a macro sense, there are
numerous revelatory phenomena in
(revisdversion of parag 2, below)
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:00:11 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
e.g. in a micro sense, the Ap
Paulpaints eschatology inartcomplementary tothe Ap
John's; independent artists yet togethr,perhaps unwittingly except for
the HS upon them, they are the
Yeah well Gary we are the "future in Christ" - we are
living it and walking it out daily .. I submit that
we need all the help we can get.. jt
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:12:51 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(revisdversion of parag 2, below)
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:00:11 -0700 [EMAIL
Does
this mean you don't believe in the Kingdom of God: the presence of the PRESENT
in Christ?
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17 January, 2005 21.00Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
arrays/displaysone subtle
(postOT)theme (retrospectvly)abt
in Christ?
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Monday, 17 January, 2005 21.00Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
arrays/displaysone
subtle (postOT)theme (retrospectvly)abt the KoG: the
presence of the future in Christ
not sure what you mean, jt...e.g.
while embracg Wesley's view/s, you believe that..
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:22:48 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..we are the "future in Christ" - we are living it
and walking it out daily .. I submit that
we need all the help we can get..
I wish
I could tell you what PTillich's thoughts are, but I don't know who s/he is. The
root of my question comes from this basic premise: it'smy
understanding that Messiah and the Immerser said, "Repent! The
Kingdom of God is at hand" and I think they meant it. It was there
for the
ok--thx for the clarification,
Slade..'is at hand' in the NT means that the KoG has come ~'close enough
to touch', mng that the KoG did not eminate from|w/i time..therefor
it is not the presnce of the 'present' on display in the NT (else we'll pass
like ships in the night..i'llsimply hand
Slade Henson wrote:
I wish I could tell you what PTillich's thoughts
are, but I don't know who s/he is. The root of my question comes from
this basic premise: it'smy understanding that
Messiah and the Immerser said, "Repent! The Kingdom of God
is at hand" and I think they meant it. It
glory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
Hello again, Debbie.
I
enjoyed your thoughts here. Your noncompartmentalization is Hebraic in
context. Pray tell... what is your background or what have you been exposed to
recently?
--
slade
-Original Message-From: Deb
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
There are several threads on my loom,
Slade. Probably the two most important, in terms of your comment, are Mennonite
and Reformed (oddly enough, given the history of those two groups).I
meanthe horse-and-buggy, no-phoneMennonites, who, as an
ethnoreligious
ith church, Bible study, prayer, and the
like.
Debbie
-Original Message-From: Debbie Sawczak
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:04
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
There are several threads on my loom, Slade. Probably th
y.
Debbie
-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
12:01 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
Fascinating,
Debbie. Terry recently started a thingy of telling about himself and
In a message dated 1/17/2005 2:31:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What scripture? *Please don't say "when that which is perfect has come" because that which is perfect is
Christ Himself and He has yet to come. *
This is clearly speaking of maturity -- that is if
In a message dated 1/15/2005 2:54:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Three hits Gregory - Unity will happen when we are all saying the same thing which unfortunately is not a reality right now. We used to sing Ps 133 at a Church I went to.. Behold how good and how pleasant
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In a message dated 1/15/2005 2:54:46 PM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Three
hits Gregory - Unity will happen when we are all saying
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:19 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unity is the show of love DESPITE not
saying the same thing in the theological details, because
on the main issue of following Christwe are saying the same
thing. It is not a rational or
]Springfield,
Mass.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:18
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:19 -0500 "Gregory A. He
Can you be sure the Jesus of the apostles is the same
Jesus as the Nicene Creed? jht
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:28:27 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy: I agree that we cannot have a mealy-mouthed,
squishy, Barney the Dinosaur,
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Can you be sure the Jesus of the apostles is the same
Jesus as the Nicene Creed? jht
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:28:27 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy: I agree that we cannot have a
mealy-mouthed, squis
I don't know about the "bathed in prayer" part because
they were constantly banishing each other. It was the beginning of the
Church/State merger era when (because of Constantine) the Church began to wield the power of the heathen state which was
never the will of the Lord who said "Render
So No, I don't trust creeds or orthodoxy
to discern or to lead me totruth. jht
Same here Judy. Same here. Izzy
:21
PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!
So No, I don't trust creeds or
orthodoxy to discern or to lead me totruth.
jht
Same here Judy. Same here.
Izzy
J.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Springfield,
Mass.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:21
PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
So No, I don't trust cree
: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
You may want to re-consider rejecting the wisdom of the
elders as a practice. Otherwise, we are just adrift in the sea of our
own prejudices, unrestrained by the great cloud of witnesses that went before
us.They left a great legacy, and we should be careful before
John wrote:
Huh??? We will never have unity based
upon all saying the same thing
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but you might be overstating
your case. It seems to me that God does desire for us to say the same
thing. This does not mean that we will all be robots that
Greg, its great for guidancejust
doesnt carry the weight of scripture. IMO Izzy
From:
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Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005
5:47 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News
] Good News!
Greg, its great for
guidancejust doesnt carry the weight of scripture. IMO
Izzy
From:Gregory A. Hession
J.D.Sent: Sunday, January
16, 2005 5:47 PMSubject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
You may want to re-consider
rejecting the wisdom
what is (and is not) orthodox to
you?
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:00:29 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't trust..orthodoxy to discern or
to lead me totruth.
In a message dated 1/16/2005 4:52:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
Huh??? We will never have unity based
upon "all saying the same thing "
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but you might be overstating
your case. It seems to me that God does
John wrote:
We will never have unity based
upon all saying the same thing
John, please do not overlook what I wrote in a previous post, which was:
Please offer us some commentary on the following passage, especially the
parts I have emphasized. Does it not teach us to have a unity
is
trusting God for one another, and relinquishing the need to"match" for
security.
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:57
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Good News!In a message
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:57
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re:
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1/16/2005 4:52:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
, 2005 12:10
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
[Debbie] I don't agree with this either, and I think it is important.
The apostles Paul and James (to go back to a previous post) ultimately
believed in the same Good News, but in emphasizing different
s), we may as well not converse.
-Original Message-From: Debbie Sawczak
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:10
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
[Debbie] I don't agree with this either, and I think it is
In a message dated 1/16/2005 8:58:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, please do not overlook what I wrote in a previous post, which was:
Please offer us some commentary on the following passage, especially the
parts I have emphasized. Does it not teach us to have a unity
In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:04:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
this has a distinctly evangelical ring to it in a cultic environment
Light shinning in the darkness?
those
occasions when we do agreedespite oursaying what appear to be quite
different things.
-Original Message-From: Debbie Sawczak
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:15
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
I
may have been
In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:04:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I may have been guilty of stretching the Scriptural body analogy there. But if we really are going to say the same thing (even if in slightly different words), we may as well not converse.
Amen to this.
different things.
-Original Message-From: Debbie Sawczak
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:15
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Good News!
I
may have been guilty of stretching the Scriptural bo
Excellent post, Debbie, but please do reconsider some of your syntax to line
up with Biblical language.
For example, you wrote:
The apostles Paul and James (to go back to a previous post)
ultimately believed in the same Good News, but in emphasizing
different things they didn't say the same
I get ridiculed no matter what I say John so - No
worries! I'm just praisin' the Lord and feeding on His Word.
If G prefers Calvin's words and wants to be conformed
to Calvin's image rather than Christs, what can I say?.
It's his God given choice - and we do become like our
teacher. jt
On
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Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005
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News!
In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:28:28 PM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED
From:
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In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:35:05 PM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED
: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
If this is so then why didn't Calvin allow Him to
reveal Christin His own life so that Calvin
could be conformed to His image? It certainly wasn't the Holy Spirit leading Calvinfirst
off to
merge Church and State in Geneva and it wasn't the
Holy Spirit who led
Slade, my heart is not to demean anyone and I don't
know what you mean by "piss and vinegar" as this term
is not in my vocabulary. Please explain to
mehow scripture and history demeans people. Are you
thinking
thatMessiah maybe
softened things up a little to keep from hurting people's
:
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TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
Slade, my heart is not to demean anyone and I don't
know what you mean by "piss and vinegar" as this term
is not in my vocabulary. Please explain to
mehow scripture and history deme
Thanks for taking the time to send the definition Kay;
so Slade wants me to leave my vigor and aggressive
energy elsewhere? Would he rather I were
"lukewarm or cold?" How is it so unmerciful to deal withthe
truth?
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:27:37 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
0:06
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Slade, my heart is not to demean anyone and I don't
know what you mean by "piss and vinegar" as this term
is not in my vocabulary. Please explain to
mehow scripture and history demeans people. Are you
thinking
thatMessi
Judy wrote:
The Spirit and Word work simultaneously which is what
we see in Acts and all of the Epistles so we would need
more than John 6:44 to construct a wooing doctrine.
I agree that the Spirit and the Word work simultaneously, but many people
have recognized that they were prepared to
myth (my studies involve/d Calvin
and Luthers' perceptions of Christ himself;thematerial implication
of jt's perspective, below,is rootd in self servgcult
ideology)
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:00:40 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[(If)] G prefers Calvin's words
and wants to
myth (head and
heart)
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:06:30 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
my heart is not to demean
anyone
In a message dated 1/15/2005 3:06:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I get ridiculed no matter what I say John so
This is not the case, Judy -- at least not by me or Bill -- two of your favoite digs. When we come back on you, it is simply out of frustration with your harang.
myth [neither of you are
more interestd than, e.g., John Calvin in Christ; e.g., in your era neither of
you demonstrateanymeasurable positive influence on your
owntown let alone upon unknown nations in the eras to come; however, you
both reflecthigh degrees of contemporary holier than
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