DAVEH: Sorry to take so long responding to your previous post of last
month, Perry. I'm slowly trying to catch up on my email traffic!
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DAVEH: Do you think the foreknowledge of God figures into
the passage Slade originally quoted...
As he passed by, he
Dave, thanks for taking the time to reply. I have stated my position
already, and do not need to repeat them. I have nothing new to add to what I
have already written.
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We have just learned that today Jenna went into shock and is back in
hospital. She is
presently in the ICU on a ventilater with tubes all over her. This shock
reaction is to
one of the drugs they gave her for the leukemia the day she left the
hospital in Austin.
She is in serious condition and
Judy, I'm so saddened to hear this. You and your family remain in my
prayers. Izzy
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We have just
Judy, I am sorry I did not see this earlier. I will certainly be praying. I
hope you do go to Austin. You will be a great help.
Bill
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Charles Perry Locke wrote:
We consider Jesus to be one person of the
Trinity, all of which are God. Angels are created beings distinct in
nature from humans. They most likely pre-existed human creation, and
humans are a unique creation apart from angels. Humans did not
pre-exist their
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DAVEH: I understand that is common Christian belief.. But, I would think
there is a reason the common beliefs evolved that way. I thought there
might be a passage in the Bible that would persuade Christian thought to
develop along that line of reasoning.
ade
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Slade,
You must admit that there are many people suffering
from inherite
DAVEH wrote: Thank you for your
below response, Slade. However, would you be so kind as to explain what
there is in the Bible that makes you think there is not a pre-mortal existence
of our spirits? IOW.are there any passages that lead you to think our
spirits did not exist prior to our
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I
would love to hear Slades response to this post. Izzy
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Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH,
DAVEH: No problem, Perry. I appreciate your viewpoint and comments.
but I think something important needs to be pointed out with respect to
the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and humans.
DAVEH
I would love to hear Slades response to this post. Izzy
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Actually, the person of God
never changes but His administration does. Obviously.
For example -- the fact that His original covenant is
Judy Taylor wrote:
I didn't make any rule about the 'curse
lighting' Terry but it is in God's Word. In the exceptions you give it
was Pharoah who hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before
God finally hardened it for good before which he had plenty of
opportunities to
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not say you made
any rule. I said there are exceptions to
rules. I am not talking about Calvin or reformed faith, and making a man blind is not evil when God does it. He
is the potter. He has the right to use the clay to glorify Himself .
You do
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Judy Taylor wrote:
I didn't make any rule about the 'curse
lighting' Terry but it is in God's Word. In the exceptions you give it was
Pharoah who hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before God finally
hardened it for good before which he had plenty
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Judy Taylor wrote:
I
didn't make any rule about the 'curse
lighting' Terry
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Hi Slade:
Thank you for posting this scripture. I know a lot of
people interpret Jesus' response to the disciples query to mean
or to prove that sin and
Let me
try that again
If all
A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's...
right?
be an interesting study.
-- slade
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DAVEH: SladeI've always viewed
Judy:Sad to observe that you actually believe this.
How utterly aberrant.
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Taylor
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Hi Slade:
Thank you for posting this scripture. I know
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:34:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let me try that again
If all A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's... right?
This was not true the last time I spoke with my ex-wife. But, I am not sure what the conclusion of that
, 2004 09:11To:
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I have no idea Chris; our family are believers who
are working
through our issues also. However, we do know
where to go for help
in time of need and we aregrateful for those
willing to encourage
and pray.
Judy Taylor wrote:
Can you show me in the scriptures why this
belief is aberrant Lance? Are you one of those who believe the
disciples asking this question were 'ignorant' and didn't know any
better? Arn't you the one who keeps saying that I an the victim of
enlightenment thinking?
DAVEH: From my (LDS) perspective, I believe stories to which you are
referring could be true(midrash (parable) stories of souls speaking with God
before they're implanted in a body on earth)And,
they would be further evidence of a pre-mortal existence of our
spirits.
I do
not
I didn't make any rule about the 'curse lighting' Terry
but it is in God's Word. In the exceptions you give it was Pharoah who
hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before God finally hardened it
for good before which he had plenty of opportunities to go the other way.
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH, but I think something important
needs to be pointed out with respect to the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and
humans.
DAVEH wrote: If Jesus could pre-exist, why not others? Jer 1:4-5 seems
evidential. And, Job (38:4-7) speaks of the morning stars and
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH,
DAVEH: No problem, Perry. I appreciate your viewpoint and comments.
but I think something important needs to be pointed out
with respect to the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and humans.
DAVEH wrote: If Jesus could
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DAVEH: SladeI've always viewed this passage
In a message dated 6/28/2004 3:51:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
God Himself says that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the children unto the 4th and sometimes the 10th generation. When did His personality change?
JudyT
Actually, the person of God never changes
There
are many midrash (parable) stories of souls speaking with God before they're
implanted in a body on earth, but I've always understood those stories to tell a
greater theological or moral story... but that the story was not factual. I know
of no one who dogmatically believes in the
Judy, it seems great to me that you have friends whom you have never met praying for you and your Jenna. I don't doubt that these prayers are a fervent as those belonging to your personal friends and congregation.
God will bless
John
In a message dated 6/26/2004 1:36:39 PM Pacific Daylight
ght be revealed in
him.(John 9:1-3)
--
slade
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I have no idea Chris; our family are believe
Hey Judy,
Is there any news on your grandaughter. We're all praying for her and the
family. I am terribly sorry for all they\you must be going through.
Our Prayers,
Bill
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every
Thank you Bill and all:
We had a bad storm yesterday with thunder, lightning, and some tornadoes south of us
which zapped our phone line. I am at our daughter's house now using Juno webmail, they
say the repairman will be out tomorrow between 8-5pm. Jenna has been discharged from
the hospital,
DAVEH: SladeI've always viewed this passage as good evidence
the Jews at the time of Jesus believed in an existence before birth.
How do you view the underlying message of this passage?
Slade Henson wrote:
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.
Hisstudentsasked him,"Rabbi,
who
Would those of you who have a heart for prayer please
put our 3yr old grandaughter
Jenna on your list. Our TX family have been in
Orlando since Mondayon vacation -
they noticed Jenna was lethargic and her color wasn't
good. Yesterday they took her
to a Dr. who did blood work and called Brad
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua !!
What sin could have brought such a thing on
a 3 year old?
Ahava b' YahShua
Baruch YHVH,
Bro.
Chris
a servant
of YHVH
Amen here! Lance
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 25, 2004 08:17
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You can count on our prayers Judy. Keep us
posted.TerryJudy Taylor wrote:
Would those of you who
Sure
thing, Judy.
A 52
hour drive? It should be less than 20.
Kay
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Would those
I have no idea Chris; our family are believers who are
working
through our issues also. However, we do know
where to go for help
in time of need and we aregrateful for those
willing to encourage
and pray.From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]\o/
!HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless
Chris Barr wrote:
If
you will check your Bible Chris, I believe you will find that it was
the first sin that did the damage. From then on, bad things happened
to good people.
Terry
\o/
!HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the
Matchless Name of YahShua !!
: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request
Chris Barr wrote:
If you will check your Bible Chris, I
believe you will find that it was the first sin that did the damage.
From then on, bad things happened to good
people.Terry
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name
Chris:Diplomacy is not = to deception. You must
know the difference between when to speak and when to..well..not speak??
From:
Chris Barr
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 25, 2004 14:32
Subject: TERRY - Fw: [TruthTalk] Prayer
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\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua !!
They believe it is leukemia
and Jennawas to have a blood transfusion last
night.
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From: Judy Taylor
Sent: 06/25/2004 8:11 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request
... we aregrateful
Lance: Yes.
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Muir
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Chris:Diplomacy is not = to deception. You must
know the difference between when to speak and when
: Friday, June 25, 2004 4:21
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Would those of you who have a heart for
prayer please put our 3yr old grandaughter
Jenna on your list. Our TX family
have been in Orlando
since Mondayon vacation -
they noticed Jenna
In a message dated 6/25/2004 3:21:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would those of you who have a heart for prayer please put our 3yr old grandaughter
Jenna on your list. Our TX family have been in Orlando since Monday on vacation -
they noticed Jenna was lethargic and
In a message dated 6/25/2004 6:19:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What sin could have brought such a thing on a 3 year old?
I going to take a wild guess and say "none." More than likely , there is a medical reason for Jenna's illness. If sin is involved, it is the sin of
In a message dated 6/25/2004 11:38:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chris:Diplomacy is not = to deception. You must know the difference between when to speak and when to..well..not speak??
A good thought for us all.
JD
:1-3)
--
slade
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I have no idea Chris; our family are believers who
are working
through our issues al
In a message dated 5/25/2004 8:55:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He has shown me that I should realize that every trial and tribulation that He allows (not sends, necessarily, but allows) is for a purpose: (1) to test my faith, (2) to refine and strengthen me, and
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I certainly will pray. Keep us
posted. Laura
Blaine, I draw the line at an outright brawl. Izzy
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Blaine: I
think TT is neither
Some good insight Blaine
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Blaine: I think TT is neither of the devil
nor of God. It is nothing more nor less than the summation of its
parts--individuals all coming from different backgrounds and seeking to
reconcile differences. Some of us listen,
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3/27/2004 10:37:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine: I think TT is neither of the devil nor of God. It is
nothing more nor less than the summation
of its
parts--individuals all coming from different backgrounds and
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:29
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Prayer
request.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated
3/27/2004 10:37:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine: I think TT is neither of
In a message dated 3/28/2004 4:31:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: When Jesus spoke of unity and when Paul wrote of reconciliation they were both speaking of
unifying around truth and the only way we are reconciled to God is to agree with Him by first
accepting and then
Dear
TruthTalkers,
I
suggest we spend the rest of this day praying for TruthTalk, and doing
spiritual warfare against demonic spirits being sent to cause contention,
strife, rudeness and accusations. There is something happening here to
try to take our eyes off of Jesus Christ and His
In a message dated 3/27/2004 7:14:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear TruthTalkers,
I suggest we spend the rest of this day praying for TruthTalk, and doing spiritual warfare against demonic spirits being sent to cause contention, strife, rudeness and accusations.
Truth Talk thou art loosed![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/27/2004 7:14:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear TruthTalkers, I suggest we spend the rest of this day praying for TruthTalk, and doing spiritual warfare against demonic spirits being sent to cause
My husband and I would sure appreciate any prayers for our safe trip to and
from San Franciso (for a medical meeting) tomorrow thru Sunday. It was
during this same meeting last year (in San Juan) that our taxi was
broadsided and totaled on the highway, and we were banged up pretty badly.
Yes,
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