RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-28 Thread Kevin Deegan
BLAINE SAYS I believe the Hebrew word that was interpreted to mean "sticks" is a word that generally relies upon the conttext for meaning. But it always has the meaning of something made of or related to wood. The Hebrew word ates is used 300 times. It is translated "stick" fourteen times,

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
There used to be a secret Mormom web site I could point you too that had all of the guys pictures, place of employment, type of career and names. They took it down after I confronted them about why they had that kind of info sort of like a dosier. AnywayI have Grey Hair and my beard is very

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-18 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Hey Kevin...I don't remember seeing your picture on the TT site, so I was happy to see what you looked like on the site you linked to below. THANK YOU. I had visualized you as being quite different. Now...how about sending DavidM an updated picture for INNGLORY? (For some

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 *REPRIMAND*

2005-01-17 Thread Slade Henson
I understand you have a hatred to Mormonism, but do yourself a favor and don't let that splash onto the Mormon themselves. -- slade -Original Message-From: Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 22.48Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Cut the fables

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Hello Dave Please explain.You left me out in the cold on this one. How are the Qoutes from the Prophets and General Authorities out of CONTEXT? I just don't see it maybe you could help me. Please provide exampleS DAVEH: Here is a quote... This Church is

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Slade Henson wrote: Sorry, Dave, but we don't celebrate Christmas. The next Holy day coming up is Passoverwould you like to attend our family Seder? DAVEH: H.That is tempting, Kay. Would you like me to bring a Kosher ham? ;-) Kay DAVEH: Though I

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Well, don't you want ALL of the TT'ers to show up??? :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:22 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DAVEH

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson
Ahturkey ham...GREAT! :) I'm not one for matzah ball soup, but I can make it. We usually have lamb, matzah ball soup, salmon, and other items...it's a feast for sure... Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: Well, don't you want ALL of the TT'ers to show up??? :-) Izzy DAVEH: Sure I do, Izzy. But I prefer they join in the feast, rather than make me the sacrificial lamb! :-) DAVEH: HThat's an interesting idea, Blaine. But..I suppose if we did

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrine to be prooftexts because out of context

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ha! Signs and all, I can see it happening . . . the last time I talked to any of those guys was during the Autumn Conference, 2003 (?). Someone pointed out Kevin as being that big fellow. I caught a glimpse of him, red hair and all, as he was folding up his sign, but I was driving around

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrine to be prooftexts because out of context they contain some of the words in the LDS doctrine for which

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion! They have a nice park there, lots of Bison, deer, bobcats, etc. There is the old Brigham Young farm, with lots of antiques

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
, 14 January, 2005 09.23 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrine

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Thank you, Terry. I need all the help I can get! :-) Terry Clifton wrote: Dave H I pray for him, though probably not often enough. Terry -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: LDS are Henotheists DAVEH: Just remember that worship only one God. They have a monolatrous relationship with worship the "god of this world" DAVEH: Then it seems to me your above assertion LDS are Henotheists is misleading. It seems monolatrism is the belief in

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church i can not be saved? DAVEH: No, Kevin.you've just taken a lot of stuff out of context. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
COLDER! (But it just might work in August???) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:35 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 BlaineRB: Hey, Dave

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrine to be prooftexts because out of context they contain some

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
two PEOPLE'S Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 10.47 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 I believe the Hebrew word that was interpreted to mean

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:27:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Perry, some biblical passages used by Mormons do seem nebulous as to what they mean--but please consider the possibility that the meaning ascribed to the passage by Mormons may actually be

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:38:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion! They have a nice park there, lots of Bison,

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Ezekiel chapter 37, John. v.15-38 K. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 19.16To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2In a message dated

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:50:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LDS are Henotheists Is Hugh Hefner a Mormonbeing a prolific heontheists, lao, all these years ? JD Shocked

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
]]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 10.32 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DaveH, You are simply straining at gnats to avoid the obvious. Heres what is Christian IS NOT: a believer in multiple-gods, or that Jesus is just

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
estate agent who reported it to me. Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 09.55 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH: Just one, Kay. But not because JSmith said so, right DaveH? Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: HThat's an interesting idea, Blaine. But..I suppose if we did it, the TT street preachers would only show up to protest the event. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread ttxpress
myth (in the availableOT lit, the 'gods' are obviously the Prophets therein..while the WoG isn'televatg these men, it isn't elevatg anyone--this has something to do with JCs rage against the machine by which the Prophets were systematically eliminatd) On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:07:07 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:38:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion! They have a

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Oh, man...that answer was a disappointment. I thought for SURE you'd have a harem or something. Only ONE? I thought you guys were supposed to try to keep up with Solomon! Do you know any Mormons who have more than one wife? Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread David Miller
Dave Hansen wrote: Perry mentioned that it was referring to judges who judge in behalf of God (I hope I've got that right, Perry). But if that were the case, I don't understand why Jesus would refer to theos (Jn 10:3435), suggesting a deity to be worshiped, to be used in his defense. The

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Dave Hansen
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 02.38 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH: Just one, Kay

RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehe... Reported or alleged to is very different than a definitive or a resoundingYES, he did/does have three wives. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 09.55To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
But when I have trouble getting a definition from a Christian (present company excluded, of course!) of Christian, it kinda makes me wonder why the reticence? And that's just a simple question. DaveH, since you have defined a mormon, I will give my definition of a Christian. One who is

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 1:38 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH: Just one

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Very interesting this talk of plural wives Any member of the "Utah" Mormons would be EX'ed if it was public knowledge or he publicly spoke of multiple wives in this life. Of course you can be sealed to more than one in the Temple. In the afterlife you can have a harem full.

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH: Just one, Kay. But not because JSmith said so, right DaveH? Izzy I don't think Dave or his lovely ever met Smith. Was it a temple

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:44:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One who is truly in (the real) Christ. (Not a member of a church.) How do we know if we are truly in the real Chist? Off the top of my head I will say we are: 1) Filled with His Spirit 2) Walk in His

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, right???!! :) K. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 14.19 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kay wrote: Geez, we went from dangerous to evl

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehe... Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 19.45 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 I don't know about Messi's being the only real Christians

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:30 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:44:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ttxpress
..nor does it inc aleGitimate 'hermaneutic' (thus far)..the correlation to your point, below, Pastor,seems like 'beauty in the eye...' On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:03:38 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ||1) Filled with His Spirit2) Walk in His Spirit (rather

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:36:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..nor does it inc a leGitimate 'hermaneutic' (thus far)..the correlation to your point, below, Pastor, seems like 'beauty in the eye...' On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:03:38 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:04:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: must you argue with every word I speak? Give me a break. Izzy Back atcha on that -- in triplicate. Grace and unmerited love and patience are the first things I think of. Just an observation. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Yellow brick rd

2005-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Just imagine if you were raised up in a all LDS culture. You have been told that the prophet speaks as God since as far back, asyou can remember. For instance, while you may have sung "Jesus Loves me" LDS chilgren learn songs such as "Follow the Prophet" Here is part of that song: Now we have a

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
ShieldsFamily wrote: Izzy in red: JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT . I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and Im sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT. Izzy DAVEH: Though I suspect I do have many

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Yellow brick rd

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: FOLLOW THE PROPHETsounds like good advice to me, Kevin. If a prophet conveys the word (Dt 18:18 Amos 3:7) of the Lord to his people, should he not be followed as the Hebrews followed Moses? I'd say the problems start cropping up when the prophets aren't followed.just look

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Dave, Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church I can not be saved? DAVEH: Not in my opinion. I believe there are a lot of non-LDS folks who will be saved. (And many LDS folks who will not be saved.) Or am I taking these quotes out of context?

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: ShieldsFamily wrote: Izzy in red: JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT . I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and Im sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT. Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
DAVEH: Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day. After all, I bet 16 would fit much more evenly around your table than 15. Think about that the next time you through a party! 8-) Dave, feel free to join us next

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DAVEH: Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day. After all, I bet 16 would fit much more evenly around your table than 15. Think about that the next time you through a party

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:56:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A matter of grave concern for the discerning. Izzy And you suppose this includes you ???

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:56:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not glibbly accept Dave as a Christian -- it is based upon his answer to a question I asked about Christ. In word (script), he expressed my faith. JD A matter of grave concern for the discerning.

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
Woops...I just noticed this post. I seem to miss posts on a regular basis.I'll go to this shade of purple: -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Monday, 10 January, 2005 10.16To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/12/2005 4:56:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How sad John, "Unto the pure all things are pure, but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/12/2005 4:56:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: I wish I could think of stuff like that, JD. Nice to see Izzy get a jab in the ribs now and then. I'm too timid to tickle the whiskers of that sleeping cat :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: My current comments are in RED. Slade Henson wrote: Woops...I just noticed this post. I seem to miss posts on a regular basis.I'll go to this shade of purple: Slade Henson wrote: Scripture is very clear there are other gods, I

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 10.32 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DAVEH: Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day. After all, I bet 16 would fit much

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: DAVEH: Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day. After all, I bet 16 would fit much more evenly around your table than 15. Think about that the next time you through DAVEH:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Hansen
Charles Perry Locke wrote: From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slade (actually, Kay) Henson wrote: So, you're saying...yes, you believe in multiple gods, DAVEH: Yesdoes not the Bible suggest likewise? Look at PS 82:6.. A

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:16:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A mormon prooftext. Actually, some of the brethren at Corinth, perhaps, believed in more than one god but served only one - someone might try reading I Cor 8. John -- Founder and Happy host to

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:55:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a Judgemental Pious Gasbag! Would you attack Satan for his beliefs? How about Bin Laden? So who made you the authority for truth? ("I say they are decieved and lying") The little fat guy is

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:54:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: A.Golly John, I'm not sure what to say...To remain in character, I suppose I should RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.. :-D How do you spell "two shay ?" JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:55:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is God's job. Are you filling in? 1 Cor 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If all Mormons are Christians then all Christians are Mormons, right? Are all Christians Baptists? Maybe not your best illustration. Jd

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Jeff Powers
10, 2005 22:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kevin Deegan wrote: Jeff Powers suggests that we should not attack then goes right on to his attack on Street Preachers I find this Hypocritical at best. WITW? He can not see that he uses the tactic that he condemns

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK OK What do you think? If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If all Mormons are Christians then all Christians are Mormons, right? Are all

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Bill Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 ShieldsFamily wrote: Congrats to Key. I do not mind hearing what DaveH has to say. We have been told t\more than once that affliliation does not have a r

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
So then what is your purpose in looking "to" the heart? How is looking to the heart accomplished? The scripture does not say you can look to the heart as long as you judge not. It says men look on the outward God looks on the heart. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:55:15

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
Sorry, Dave, but we don't celebrate Christmas. The next Holy day coming up is Passoverwould you like to attend our family Seder? Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 02.34To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
Why would you want to be accepted as a Mormon? Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 08.11To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 OK OK

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:54 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 What a Judgemental Pious Gasbag! Would you attack Satan for his beliefs? How about Bin Laden? So who made you the authority for truth? ("

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: I'm not sure why I'm defending Kevin on this, Johnbut he was trying to denigrate Mormonism by taking LDS comments out of context. So the logic of what he said makes sense, even though it is hard for a non-Mormon to follow. What you said below about Christians Baptists really doesn't

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Debbie Sawczak
OK! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:08 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2In a message dated 1/10/2005 8:04:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Like most words, there is more than one definition of Christian. Some (such as myself) are quite happy thinking of it as encompassing a lot of people who have a faith in Christ or attempt to follow his teachings. This is also typical of most dictionary definitions. On the other hand,

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH asks for a definition You ask for a definition. DAVEH: YesI'd like to hear a real definition of Christian from both you and Perry, since you both seem so adamant to exclude Mormons from being considered Christian. After reading through all you

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
false claims to Christianity. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:06 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 ShieldsFamily wrote: Several on this list claim

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy in red: JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT . I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and Im sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT. Izzy DAVEH: Though I suspect I do have many friends on TT, I failed to

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Dave, Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church I can not be saved? Or am I taking these quotes out of context? I do not: exclude by definition exclude by creed ad nauseam For more of this Nauseam read Stephen Robinson's book --- Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 10.32To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DaveH, You are simply straining at gnats to avoid the obvious. Heres what is Christian IS NOT: a believer in multiple-gods, or that Jesus is just another one of us gods

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread David Miller
John signed off: John -- Founder and Happy host to the Theology known as Smithism. Thanks Pairy I think when Parry used the term Smithism, he was referring to the doctrines of Joseph Smith, not John Smithson. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:42 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Wrong Terry, I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years. Also a few Jehovah's Witnesses! In fact my wifes sister in law has

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 He didn't ask what a Christian is NOT, he asked what the definition for Christian IS. He didn't ask about Joseph Smith and his alleged activities or ideas are/were. Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
11.03To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kay, in the past nine years this has been explained to DaveH ad nauseum. Its a ploy. Why dont YOU try to get through to him? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hes had it before. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:22 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 He asked for people's definition of Christian. I gave

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
January, 2005 12.58To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Hes had it before. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:22 AMTo: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:13:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK OK What do you think? If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:19:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So then what is your purpose in looking "to" the heart? How is looking to the heart accomplished? The scripture does not say you can look to the heart as long as you judge not. It says men look on the

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 OK OK What do you think? If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon? The fat man is smilen once again? (that would be me)

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
Benny HindEnd...too funny. I don't think the Jews of the first church called themselves Christians. I believe they called themselves...Derechimfollowers of the way. Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
I do not glibbly accept Dave as a Christian -- it is based upon his answer to a question I asked about Christ. In word (script), he expressed my faith. JD A matter of grave concern for the discerning. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 10:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :) AND, as Pentecostal so often do, we will be raised to fight another day.

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
Yes, I know. As am Iwe would not eat Pentecostals for snacksUNCLEAN! UNCLEAN! Sorry, but Pentecostals just aren't koshernot for food consumption anyhow! Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread David Miller
Kay wrote: Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :) I hope you did not perceive me to be calling Messianics dangerous. My position is that the Messianic movement is of God, but there are some within it

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kay wrote: Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :) I hope you did not perceive me to be calling Messianics dangerous. My position is that the Messianic movement is of God

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Terry Clifton
My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry. Terry Jeff Powers wrote: Wrong Terry, I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years. Also a few

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: I am not aware of any pure Christian sect. Peace be with you. David Miller. === I am planning on starting one as soon as I can find time. Keep those love offerings pouring in. We need a building fund ( and a yacht). Terry

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 David Miller wrote: I am not aware of any pure Christian sect.Peace

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Jeff Powers
] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 14:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry. Terry

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