Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 11:27:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: It's bad enough that Bill first insults and then cuts and runs whenever his worldview is threatened. Invariably you jump in right away to rub a bit of salt in the wound - What gives you the idea that you

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
DA Smithsonwrites:What if I said that "free moral agency" is a problem for God -- who is not a free moral agent; that His "all knowing" acclaim (a claim heeped on Him by others) is a comparative statement, His knowledge compared to our meager share; No doubt you've been

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:01:20 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: It's bad enough that Bill first insults and then cuts and runs whenever his worldview is threatened. Invariably you jump in right away to rub a bit of salt in the wound - What gives you the idea that you know all these

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:56:12 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It really is kinda "sad" (as you so often say) that salvation by grace through faith is really not understood by you. jt: Oh but it is understood by me John and I consider you to be in error over some reallycrucial issues. Such

RE: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
His new uniform is not one I would choose to wear! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Gary D OttosonSent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 20.45To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in

RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
John Never wrestle with a pig: You get dirty and the pig likes it. ...slade

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Jeff Powers
:) - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 5:41 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? John Never wrestle with a pig: You get dirty and the pig likes it. ...slade

[TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LOL Very good point, Izzy. But this is the problem with most traditional Christian theology, not just Judy's, isn'it? Kevin's theology and that of most street preachers seems to be similar? Correct me, Judy, Kevin, if I am wrong on this. BlaineRB The soul that sinneth, it shall die --

Fw: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Good Morning Blaine, Glad to see you are still around.. you write: LOL Very good point, Izzy. But this is the problem with most traditional Christian theology, not just Judy's, isn't? Kevin's theology and that of most street preachers seems to be similar? Correct me, Judy, Kevin, if I am

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't claim to understand everything about Yom Kippur Slade. I just know that the day of atonement happened yearly because the blood of bulls and goats could do nothing for the conscience. However, Jesus sacrifice is once and for all and His blood is able to remit sin. On Fri, 14 Jan

Re: [TruthTalk] Different Jesus

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: That pretty well sums up the point you (or perhaps it was Perry) was making how Jesus is perceived by the LDS as contrasted to the Protestant Jesus. So let me ask you, Kevindo you believe God has no body parts, and passions ? Kevin Deegan wrote: Bernard P. Brockbank First Quorum of

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrine to be prooftexts because out of context they contain some of the words in the LDS doctrine for which

RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
How then, may I ask, do you rectify the sacrifice Paul made? I refer you to Acts 21:22-26. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 07.23To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Judy Taylor wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:17:28 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: My current comments are in RED. No, the question itself...you lost me. But, I have PS. 82 open and my translation (Complete Jewish Bible)

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion! They have a nice park there, lots of Bison, deer, bobcats, etc. There is the old Brigham Young farm, with lots of antiques

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
I've heard teachings stating the two sticks represent the House of Judah and the House of Ephraim coming together as one. I would gather it's all a matter of perspective... Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Thank you, Terry. I need all the help I can get! :-) Terry Clifton wrote: Dave H I pray for him, though probably not often enough. Terry -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
My funeral will be held within 24 hours of my death...yanno, before I stink. If you want to attend, better hurry with your plane tickets. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT lie and say stoopid stuff like...Oh, she looks SO beautiful! They did such a good job! She looks like she's sleeping

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
I don't think Bill's worldview was threatened. I think his heart was hurt...to the core. But, then again, I don't know Bill. Just a guess of mine. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, 14 January,

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: LDS are Henotheists DAVEH: Just remember that worship only one God. They have a monolatrous relationship with worship the "god of this world" DAVEH: Then it seems to me your above assertion LDS are Henotheists is misleading. It seems monolatrism is the belief in

Re: [TruthTalk] Different Jesus

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't get it, Kevin, why did you take the time to write all the below, which is exactly how we believe? I mean, you usually write contrary-to-Mormon-doctrine stuff! The below is correct in all aspects, and is actually how it is! You are getting wierd! I no longer have faith in you taking

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church i can not be saved? DAVEH: No, Kevin.you've just taken a lot of stuff out of context. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive

RE: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
I was responding to the theology of Smithson, Taylor, Hughes. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:39 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 12:27:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DA Smithson writes: What if I said that "free moral agency" is a problem for God -- who is not a free moral agent; that His "all knowing" acclaim (a claim heeped on Him by others) is a

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then according to this, Kay, John's (the Baptist) father, righteous Zacharias, was a false prophet--so were many others. Matthew 23:34-35: Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets,and wise men, and scribes, and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them ye scourge in your

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Blaine, my husband has a meeting in Skibird Utah in late Feb/early March. He bought me a ticket to go with him. I told him the last place I want to go at that time of year is NORTH. As I look at the snow on the ground here (it's twenty degrees right now), the last place I want to go is somewhere

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
By what??? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:47 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News! I don't think Bill's worldview was threatened. I think his heart was

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Kay: Are you planning to shuffle off of this mortal coil sooner than we think? Gregory A. Hession J.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 9:47 AM Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
As in my first response of the morning, I will deal with some personal issues if the over all post has to do with real issues. The following does not - it is entirely personal. Side bar it or forget it. No one on this list wants to read a protracted debate on personal matters. We all (me

[TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, Welcome back to TT... I've missed you interesting and challenging defenses of the (Mormon) faith. http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/Mormons/sticks.htm The above web page describes the sticks of Judah and Joseph very well, and very clearly demonstrates that they could not possibly be

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe the Hebrew word that was interpreted to mean sticks is a word that generally relies upon the conttext for meaning. But it always has the meaning of something made of or related to wood. In this case, it seems clear it is referring to written materials on a stick, or scroll. This is

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 12:52:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:56:12 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It really is kinda "sad" (as you so often say) that salvation by grace through faith is really not understood by you. jt: Oh but it is

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Glad to see youtake the "high road" John. So does this mean there will be no more personal comments from your end? jt On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:32:13 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As in my first response of the morning, I will deal with some personal issues if the over all post has to do

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
The incident in Acts 21 has nothing to do with the "day of atonement" and we don't know that there was a sacrifice involved at the end of this purification rite, it could have been something else. What do you hope to prove in bringingit up? jt On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:30:29 -0500 "Slade

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehe...Gregmay happen, ya never know. Don't bother spending the money on a plane ticket, though. Safe it and go to Israel! Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Gregory A. Hession J.D.Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Different Jesus

2005-01-14 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, What may sound music to your ears sounds pretty unusual to the rest of us. These men are speaking the truth, and Kevin quoted them because they are affirming what we have been saying from the start...the Mormon church has not changed; it is still the same occultic and heretical church

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:26:52 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DA Smithson writes:What if I said that "free moral agency" is a problem for God -- who is not a free moral agent; that His "all knowing" acclaim (a claim heeped on Him by others) is a

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Go back and read the threads he was involved in. That should give you a clue. The statement was my opinion only. I could be wrong. Better to just ignore me. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Friday, 14

RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
You said: However, Jesus sacrifice is once and for all and His blood is able to remit sin. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 10.53To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 7:56:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glad to see you take the "high road" John. So does this mean there will be no more personal comments from your end? jt You might expect an occasional jab in reponse to something you have said - but I

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
How does this incident change anything? Paul was advised to take that oath with the four men so as not to antagonize the unbelieving Jews. He had been warned prophetically that bonds awaited him in Jerusalem and James and the elders were trying to help him avoid the inevitable. BTW this is

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread David Miller
Greetings, Greg. I don't think I have seen your name on TruthTalk before. Welcome. We need a good Christian lawyer here. Attorney Elsman was here once upon a time, but we, well, uh let's just say that we are glad you are here. :-) I think you know what I mean. Peace be with you.David

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:55:39 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Obedience is not "works" John and obedience is essential if you are to love God with all that you are."justified by faith apart from works of (the) law" is the text in question. If "works of law" is not "obedience to

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread David Miller
Bill wrote: I am talking about the Holy Spirit working in unison with the Gospel, even before the Gospel is preached. Do you not think that happens? Judy wrote: No I don't Bill. That would be magic and God isn't into those kinds of things. In His economy faith comes by hearing and hearing

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
I think they lynched himdon't worry, Greg, I won't let them beat you up! Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of David MillerSent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 12.59To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good

RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
You know what, Judy? Our minds work totally different from each other. Don't worry about it. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 12.15To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:

RE: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon Please

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 09.13To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon PleaseSlade Henson wrote:I think what matters here is what Dave believes. He's

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Lance Muir
Sherrie you 'lurker' you. ANY DISCERNING READER would have noticed what passion and love Bill has for the Lord. It's distressing to see someone lay their heart bare, do research into the wee hours and, write with the care and theological insight that Bill has so regularly done only to see

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Since you know him personally, Sherrie, please send him my love. Tell him I would give him heart band-aids. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of SherrieSent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 16.40To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Dear David: Thank you for the welcome. I joined when I found out that Slade Henson was involved, whom I mightily respect. By the way, will I find Elsman's skeleton on the side of the road somewhere? Some of his pals are a bit, shall we say, obstreperous. Divisive, maybe. Nutty,

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Ummm...I think you have two different Zach's here, Blaine. Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 10.25 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
We need a good Christian lawyer here. Doesnt that depend upon whose side he takes? J Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Slade says CAUTION! You have entered anti-missionary territory...BEWARE! BEWARE! :) --sladeby way of Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 10.47 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
I disagree...it's a parabolic teaching. Continue reading. Ezekiel interprets it himselfv. 21...Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations whither they have gone and will gather them together and bring them into their own land and I will make them

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Why? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherrie Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 3:40 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News! I know him personally, we are very good friends; hes a dear man. You are right, Kay.

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Maybe he just needs to regroup and take a break. He was getting uncharacteristically testy. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 3:50 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
We've been known to make better men cry. :-) Izzy (But not me, of course!!!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:06 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was:

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Lance Muir
***NEWS FLASH* Izzie speaking of herself:" I HAVE NO CLUE"This is illustrative of the aforementioned 'vacuity'. From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2005 17:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News! I did read them, and

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: We need a good Christian lawyer here. Izzy wrote: Doesn't that depend upon whose side he takes? :-) The operative word here is good. If he is good, he will take the right side. :-) And if he is Christian according to your definition of the word, he would be taking

Re: [TruthTalk] Prophets

2005-01-14 Thread David Miller
Greg wrote: I would like to join the fray on the prophet matter. I think there is historical support for the role of prophet being treated differently than other gifts, because of its potential for abuse. Now, are you still happy I joined? Of course I am. Please present your perspective

RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Again, you have no concept of the procedure. If the sacrificial systems did nothing for the conscience, it was a terrible joke to play on the Children of Israel "Hey, Jesus, check this out," Abba says. "I'm gonna give them consciences so they feel guilty about doing something wrong.

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
ROFL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:29 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News! David Miller wrote: We need a good Christian lawyer here. Izzy wrote:

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
So, Lance, my vacuity has broken Bills heart? Maybe he shouldnt take it personally. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:22 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Hey, I promise not to use large, blue, slanted, capital letters! And, to talk English, instead of lawyer jive. Gregory A. Hession J.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:33:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: The blood of bulls and goats covered the person for another year. Perhaps you should go back and understand the Yom Kippur service. -- slade Slade: Double check -- the participant was covered for

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
David: You know Greg...my partner in crime??? Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 17.29 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News! David Miller wrote: We need a good

RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Tovia Singer will eat them for lunch! Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 17.21 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2 We've been known

RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
On second thought...no he won't. They aren't kosherbut you get the point...! K. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 18.28 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The two sticks;

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:36:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Romans 2:15,16 speaks of born again Gentiles that is people who were not raised under the law of Moses but who now "in Christ" do by nature (their new nature) the things required in the law with their

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:44:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Never wrestle with a pig: You get dirty and the pig likes it. ...slade INo need to repeat -- I got this right off. Thanks John

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:45:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The soul that sinneth, it shall die -- is not a true statement for those who are in Christ. JD, then by your theology there will be very few in hell, and most everyone in heavencorrect? Izzy Jere 31:34

Re: [TruthTalk] Bill says goodbye?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:51:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you say that language such as Jonathan's was one of those ways? If I said that about you or him, would I be accused of ad hominem speech? Terry Rudeness was what Jonathan was reacting to. "Prick" and

Re: [TruthTalk]

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:02:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Yikes BillI hope that doesn't mean you are leaving TT forever! We will miss you, and hope you will return for a visit now and then!!! He'll be back --- he has friends here. Who knows ---

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:27:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Perry, some biblical passages used by Mormons do seem nebulous as to what they mean--but please consider the possibility that the meaning ascribed to the passage by Mormons may actually be

Re: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon Please

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:15:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW..I'm still not up to par, but I can't stay in bed any longer as my back is aching.so, I'll try to catch up on some of these posts. I can lay hands on this monitor, if you like -- who knows.

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:38:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion! They have a nice park there, lots of Bison,

[TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
jt: I hear what you are saying David and I'm familiar with John 6:44. But remember Jesus had just gotten through telling these Jews that He was the "Bread of life" and thatALL the Father gave to Him would come to Him and at this point He had been teaching for almost three yearsafter

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:49:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think Bill's worldview was threatened. I think his heart was hurt...to the core. But, then again, I don't know Bill. Just a guess of mine. Kay Kay, my friend, you are correct. BillyT wants to be a

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Ezekiel chapter 37, John. v.15-38 K. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 19.16To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2In a message dated

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:53:20 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Again, you have no concept of the procedure. If the sacrificial systems did nothing for the conscience, it was a terrible joke to play on the Children of Israel No it was certainly no joke which

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:50:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LDS are Henotheists Is Hugh Hefner a Mormonbeing a prolific heontheists, lao, all these years ? JD Shocked

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
I've been wondering why you keep posting this Slade, you apparently think it is really funny, so what pig is John wrestling with? - is it anythingto do with what Izzy posted yesterday: Exactly. Iron sharpens iron. (And mud muddies the muddled?) Izzy And if not then what are you talking

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:44:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact that He changes His mind indicates His mercy, it does not detract from his Omnipotence. Omnipotence -- doesn' t that have to do with power? John

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:44:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But according to your belief He must be on this learning curve to have no limitations? I pretty much believe the learning curve was centered around our creation -- humans -- with larger degree of "free

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 10:04:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Obedience is not "works" John and obedience is essential if you are to love God with all that you are. "justified by faith apart from works of (the) law" is the text in question. If "works of law" is

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 10:04:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Historical sins" as viewed against other types of sin i was comparing (which has nothing to do with whatever you are talking about above) are things like smoking, cussing, drinking, murder -- things that

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:45:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The soul that sinneth, it shall die -- is not a true statement for those who are in Christ. JD, then by your theology there will be very few in hell, and most everyone

Re: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon Please

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 1:23:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there may be some on TT who are from other planets, cuz they certainly...well, I'll shut up! :) tsk Tsk

Re: [TruthTalk] Bill says goodbye?

2005-01-14 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:51:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you say that language such as Jonathan's was one of those ways? If I said that about you or him, would I be accused of ad hominem speech? Terry Rudeness was

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:15:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did read them, and did not notice anyone attacking him, but he was attacking others. Thats why I have no clue what you are talking about. Okay. Izzy You were probably squinting a little too tightly when

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:32:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had some good discussions with Greg in the past. I think you will like him better than Elsman, but I realize that is not saying much. :-) Whoa. Greg should, no doubt, feel warmly received. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:53:21 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:44:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:But according to your belief He must be on this learning curve to have no limitations? I pretty much believe the learning curve

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:50:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been wondering why you keep posting this Slade, you apparently think it is really funny, so what pig is John wrestling with? - is it anything to do with what Izzy posted yesterday: Exactly. Iron

Re: [TruthTalk] Whose Names are Written in the Lambs Book of Life?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:55:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, judyT writes: "Where were you when he layed the foundations of the world - declare if you have understanding?" I believe I was in Compton. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:10:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: == Good post John. Clear, understandable, and true. Terry Very good -- even "cool." Thank you JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:45:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The soul that sinneth, it shall die -- is not a true statement for those who are in Christ. JD, then by your theology there will be very few in hell, and

Re: [TruthTalk] Bill says goodbye?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:19:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you please tell me where I was rude? Is it rude to tell the truth, that truth being that I did not feel challenged by anything Bill said. Have we beconme

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Thanks for the explanation John -Are the code words really necessary? Why not just say "cool it" On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:43:40 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:50:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been wondering why you keep

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:59:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the explanation John - Are the code words really necessary? Why not just say "cool it" The "swine" thingy is more "biblical" than the "cool it" thingy, I suppose. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Bill says goodbye?

2005-01-14 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:19:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you please tell me where I was rude? Is it rude to tell the truth, that truth being that I did not feel challenged by anything Bill

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