Re: [TruthTalk] Melchisedec Priesthood

2002-08-10 Thread David Miller
we should discuss it first. If you are going to argue that the Book of Mormon is right or the Doctrine and Covenants is right and the Bible is wrong, then we will not get anywhere. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] Joseph and Mary

2002-08-12 Thread David Miller
this. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed

Re: [TruthTalk] Book of Mormon full of errors

2002-08-19 Thread David Miller
misrepresented and misquoted. Why don't you just answer us straight out. Do you believe that the Bible brings people under the power of Satan because of the many plain and precious parts which have been left out? Yes or No and then explain. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech

[TruthTalk] The hope of the resurrection

2002-09-04 Thread David Miller
that his spirit is in heaven then you will be saved. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-12 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: An important distinction here is that I would NEVER say that the OT Scriptures caused people to stumble and an exceedingly great number of people to come under the power of Satan. NEVER! DAVEH: Nor would I. But Joseph Smith did when he wrote 1 Nephi 13:29. It seems

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-18 Thread David Miller
DaveH: I'm not sure I'd call it a stalemate, as much as to say that we mutually respectfully disagree. I do not think you are understanding me, which is why I called it a stalemate. David Miller wrote: However, because I consider eternal judgment to be based upon whether or not men have

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-18 Thread David Miller
not consider him of Satan for all this contention he caused. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?

2002-09-18 Thread David Miller
2:38-39) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?

2002-09-18 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: I don't have a problem considering that the Book of Mormon might be Scripture. The idea itself is not wrong, in my opinion. I see no valid authority from God that has closed the Canon of Scripture. DAVEH: I think there are many Protestants who might disagree with you

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?

2002-09-19 Thread David Miller
perspective, Scripture is a subset of inspired revelation. Scripture is that written revelation that God ordained, through His hand of Providence, to preserve and compile together, to act as an authority and foundation for men to judge revelation and claims of revelation. David Miller wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-19 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Dave, I think the Book of Mormon speaks deceptively about the Bible. DAVEH: You can think what you want, but IMO the BofM does not denigrate the Bible. It clearly leads both you and Blaine not to consider the Bible as God's Word. You cannot give me a categorical, yes

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-20 Thread David Miller
will have their place in heaven right after they suffer for their sins. I find such talk contrary to sound doctrine and contrary to the teachings of Christ. Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats. He will not be getting the goats ready to mingle with the sheep. Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-20 Thread David Miller
, or if you think you have already found the TRUE CHURCH, then you are going to miss recognizing the congregation of Jesus Christ. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-21 Thread David Miller
. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-23 Thread David Miller
a long way toward helping someone like you break away from the bonds of your deception. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-23 Thread David Miller
Blainer wrote: Japan is part of this ring, and has earthquakes so frequently that houses and buildings are built to sustain them with minimal damage. David Miller wrote: Sloppy scholarship. You know full well that Japan was not part of what the Book of Mormon was talking about. Blainer

Re: [TruthTalk] Joe Smith's immorality

2002-09-23 Thread David Miller
to be inuendo, done by JS's enemies. Like Jesus, Joseph had plenty of jealous/envious enemies, buzzing around, lookinfg for a place to land. On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:00:47 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blainer wrote: ... I have some questions, OK? 1. How many wives did Jacob

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-23 Thread David Miller
DaveH wrote: The legends point to a visit by Jesus to the Americas. Hold on a minute. Did I miss something? Where are the legends that point to a visit by Jesus? I'm VERY interested in seeing this material. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-23 Thread David Miller
on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. (1Co 15:35-54) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-23 Thread David Miller
biographies too. You do recognize that this is part of the fruit from Joe Smith's teaching, right? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-24 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: This has all the looks of a dead end to me, DAVEH wrote: I don't know what you consider a dead end. It isn't like this book can prove anything one way or another. It is a record of vocal legends amongst peoples who were not noted for recording much of their history

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-24 Thread David Miller
(the feathered serpent). Incidently, the stories about a possible Jesus who came to America in the first century called him the water serpent. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-25 Thread David Miller
first, the chicken or the egg dilemma. Do you think it is possible, or do you refuse to consider the idea? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-25 Thread David Miller
? Cornelius believed and had the answer of a good conscience toward God, hence he received the Holy Spirit, Christian fellowship, and lastly baptism. Simon was wicked in his heart and therefore baptism could not save him. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-29 Thread David Miller
wrote about this subject. It seems to me that Joseph Smith borrowed Campbell's ideas that the church should simply be known as Church of Christ or Church of Jesus Christ, but he never really understood the real meat of what Campbell taught about this. Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-29 Thread David Miller
makes sense to your biases, does not always make sense to me. That's why you are suppose to try and work at telling me what does not make sense, and more importantly, WHY it does not make sense to you. David Miller wrote: If I'm not sure about something, I will tell you that I'm not sure. If I

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-09-30 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: How could a 5 year old marry Joseph Smith? DaveH explained that it was a sealing or celestial marriage. DAVEH wrote: And if I remember correctly, I mentioned that it happened AFTER JS had died. It was not as some TTers have been trying to imply.that he married a 5

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-03 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: He is according to John 1:1 equal to God. He is not the brother of anyone. He is God. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren. (Heb. 2:11) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?---Part 2

2002-10-03 Thread David Miller
is in the heart. If a person loves Jesus and obeys him, he will walk in the truth and be led into clear knowledge of the truth. If a person walks in selfishness and sin, he will be blind and unable to understand the Bible or any other holy writings. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your

[TruthTalk] Bible Interpretation

2002-10-03 Thread David Miller
? I think this is where the Holy Spirit comes in, and a comparison of spiritual things with spiritual. But the literalist camp of Protestants would say, if it can be taken literally, then it should be taken literally. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?---Part 2

2002-10-04 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: No matter how plain the Bible might appear to be about matters, men can twist it to their own destruction if they want to. DAVEH: I agree. To me it seems logical that the more Scripture we have, the less likely that will be. I don't quite understand why Bible only

[TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture

2002-10-07 Thread David Miller
of how the Scriptures needed to be fulfilled (Mat. 26:54, Mark 14:49). It is clear to me that your attitude toward the Scriptures differs significantly from the attitude that Jesus expressed toward the Scriptures. You and Jesus do not speak the same way. Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Test Msg

2002-10-08 Thread David Miller
Never mind about replying to me. The test mail came through the list just fine. I guess everyone is tongue tied! Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-08 Thread David Miller
, with the hopes of finding some good things. There are some good things in Mormonism, but Joe Smith isn't one of them, in my opinion. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians

[TruthTalk] Fw: NIGHTLINE: Threats, Harrassment and Confrontation

2002-10-09 Thread David Miller
Nightline looks like it will interesting tonight. We've talked about liars and con men before, so I thought some of you might be interested in this program. Peace be with you. David Miller. TONIGHT'S SUBJECT: They were threatened, blocked, bugged, and they knew that just by talking to certain

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism and the Lord's Supper

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
of grace. Have you purposely chosen ordiance over sacrament or do you consider the words interchangeable? Do you view marriage as a Christian ordiance? As a sacrament? If not, why not? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism and the Lord's Supper

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism and the Lord's Supper

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
or rule or ritual that must be done. What is your denomination again? If footwashing is considered optional then why would your denomination call it an ordinance? What is meant by calling it an ordinance? Do they also call footwashing a sacrament? Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism and the Lord's Supper

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you

Re: [TruthTalk] Definitions

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
and considered holy as in holy matrimony or holy communion So now you are saying that marriage is a sacrament? But before you said that marriage was not an ordinance, and I thought you considered ordinance and sacrament interchangeable. What am I missing here? Peace be with you. David Miller

[TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
is condemned by works if his works are sinful. 4. Good works carry no merit whatsoever before God. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: Tell me these are not trick questions and I will try to answer them. These are not trick questions. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-10 Thread David Miller
I think the answers given to the test so far will lead to some very interesting discussions. I'm going out of town for several days so I may not be able to respond much until next week. I hope to see some more answers from others when I get back. Peace be with you. David Miller

[TruthTalk] How should we examine Mormonism?

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
- Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] How should we examine Mormonism? David Miller wrote: For the record, I have never slandered Joe Smith. To slander means to say something false

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
are sinful. True 4. Good works carry no merit whatsoever before God. False When I have time, I will show by the Scriptures my reasons for answering this way. I think we can have some interesting and thought provoking discussions on this. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech

[TruthTalk] Street Preachers converge on Mormon Conference

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
Someone forwarded to me these url's. I thought some of you might be interested. Protestors to Church doctrine grow http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/40183 LDS Church Set to Appeal Ruling http://www.sltrib.com/10112002/utah/6086.htm Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
to be falsehood. (For example, the false Book of Mormon doctrine about baptism, and the false notion that the Scriptures have been corrupted and bring people under Satan's power.) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: For the record, I have never slandered Joe Smith. Blainer wrote: But you just did, above--there WAS that dress as evidence for Clinton's sinful behavior, but NO EVIDENCE for JS! To draw a parallel between the two makes no sense. You are just trying to link the two

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
that the Bible had been altered, and that this altered Bible has been responsible for bringing an exceedingly great many under the power of Satan. Do you now agree with us on this point? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
say that he always kept his word. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
men before God. When I have more time, I hope to share how works are pleasing to God and are a fruit of faith which is pleasing to God. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture

2002-10-14 Thread David Miller
Blainer wrote: Mormonism is not divided. There were only about 130 splinter groups. ROTFL! Only 130? Of course that is divided! Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
, a man is doing all that God expects of him, then that man is considered perfect by God. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon inconsistences

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
any divining with seeing stones prior to the Book of Mormon? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from

Re: [TruthTalk] How should we examine Mormonism?

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
Blainer wrote: Why were Joseph Smith's enemies always such a bunch of low-lifes? David Miller wrote: This statement is completely irresponsible. Were there low-lifes that were against Joseph Smith? Sure, but were all of his enemies low-lifes? Of course not. Just one example: Alexander

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
On the contrary, Glenn, I agree completely with Michael's statement and believe it. I teach it that way all the time. Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:32 AM

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
you really are not. When Jesus makes you righteous, you are righteous in deed. It is not a fake righteousness. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
, BUT CHRIST LIVETH IN ME: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. (Gal. 2:20) He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. (1 John 2:6) Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
in the Bible do you use to support your teaching that nobody is perfect like Jesus is perfect? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread David Miller
works and holiness makes you uncomfortable because it means you have some room to grow some more. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-16 Thread David Miller
said before, trusting in works nullifies grace, but works themselves are a fruit of faith and do not nullify grace. Glenn wrote: The verses you are using you are misusing. David Miller wrote: No, I am not misusing them. Read the whole epistle of 1 John and believe it. Glenn wrote: 1 John

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-16 Thread David Miller
have something else in mind when you say that works nullify grace? David Miller wrote: You gave verses, but not one of them said that God does not consider anyone perfect. Job 1:1 reveals that God considered Job perfect. Glenn wrote: My point exactly. Job was not perfect like Jesus Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-16 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: YOU are the reason I don't believe in perfection. You seem to hit the ceiling over this pet doctrine. David Miller wrote: I haven't hit any ceiling. I'm just pushing you a little further than I have in the past. The reason you don't believe in holiness is not because of me

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-16 Thread David Miller
it, but because you can't believe it, you say that it is not yet fulfilled. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-16 Thread David Miller
this about you, but you have not denied what I have said. Why is that? Is it because what I said is true? If it is true, have I sinned? Clearly it is dangerous ground to declare the motives of another person, but it can only be sin when that declaration is false. David Miller wrote: Most prefer

Re: [TruthTalk] Faith vs. Works

2002-10-23 Thread David Miller
of righteousness, WHICH ARE BY JESUS CHRIST, unto the glory and praise of God. (Phi 1:10-11) Notice also how the passage above teaches us that we may be without offense till the day of Christ. Why does Glenn teach us that this is impossible? BIBLE, BIBLE, BIBLE. Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-23 Thread David Miller
The problem with Coffman's commentary is that he defines being perfect in an absolute sense of having no room to grow. This is NOT what Jesus meant. Coffman's comments are fine with regard to absolute perfection and the Christian walk, but they do not apply properly to Mat. 5:48. Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] Faith vs. Works

2002-10-23 Thread David Miller
Thank you, James. You did a much better job explaining this subject than I did. I find agreement with you. Now Izzy knows of twobelievers who consider it possible to live free of sin. :-) Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: Pastor James PS

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-23 Thread David Miller
Was Jesus at thetime he said this as perfect as his heavenly Father? Was Jesus at age 12 as perfect as his heavenly Father? Has Jesus always been as perfect as his heavenly Father? Peace be with you. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: The ones who ignore personal responsibility for sin, in my opinion, are those who cop-out and say that we will always sin and there is nothing that we can do about it until Jesus comes back. Glenn wrote: This very statement is why I think people are blinded

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
and see how the Holy Spirit takes up where Isaiah left off concering eye having not seen, nor ear heard, the things that God has prepared for them that love him. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
the perfect doctrine, that person is in sin! David Miller wrote: Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. (2Jo 1:9) Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
not think she underwent extensive discipleship for years to deal with her many years as a harlot. Jesus cast the devils out of her, and I think she instantly fell in love with our Lord and went and sinned no more from that point forward. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech

[TruthTalk] A false prophecy of Joseph Smith

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
contradiction to the prophecy that Joe Smith gave in the name of the Lord, how can you be so sure that Joe Smith's faith was stronger than Emma's? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because AS HE IS, SO ARE WE IN THIS WORLD. (1Jo 4:17) You see? We do not need to wait until Christ returns to let the life of Jesus Christ live through us. As Jesus Christ is, so are we in this world. Peace be with you. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
ways. Is the verse talking about Jesus Christ or is it about the believer in Jesus Christ? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-18 Thread David Miller
minds, and write them in our hearts! He well knew how ready our unbelief would be to cry out, this is impossible! And therefore stakes upon it all the power, truth, and faithfulness of him to whom all things are possible. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-19 Thread David Miller
of perfection from reading my Bible. Have you ever searched on the words perfect, perfected, and perfection in the King James Bible? Use these terms the way the Bible uses them, and how can you not believe in a doctrine of Christian perfection? The word is not foreign to the Bible. Peace be with you. David

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-19 Thread David Miller
in Jesus Christ? Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. (1John 5:1) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-20 Thread David Miller
and could be no better than he was? No. But was Job perfect in the sense that he did not sin? Yes, he was. That is what the Bible says. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
and grow, though we be blameless in this process of growing. David Miller wrote: The doctrine of Christian perfection that I teach is simply one that says we can trust Jesus Christ to break the power of sin in our lives, and that by the power of the Holy Spirit, we can trust him to keep us walking

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 John 3:9

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
believed it because the Bible taught it. Perhaps you can't see what I am saying because you still have sin in your heart (as per your own confession, not my judgment of your heart), so it clouds what you can see. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 John 3:9

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
up with what is written. Your theology should be so in line with John, that you could write and teach exactly like he did. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: It is not an objective translation. The most obvious bias, of course, is that fact that they excluded all denominations that hold to the majority text position. Glenn wrote: Of course they did. And rightly so. I think this is why you are weak on condemning the King

[TruthTalk] Book of Abraham - Pearl of Great Price

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
, Dee Jay Nelson, left Mormonism because of the evidence and the way that the Mormon church reacted to the evidence. So Blaine and DaveH, please tell me, have you read this book? If not, are you willing to read it? I would very much like to discuss this topic with you both. Peace be with you. David

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
in there with him, but those who only knew him superficially didn't really care much for what they heard and saw. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http

[TruthTalk] The Word Perfect

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
). Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
wives. Who cares if it is 30 or 60 wives that he had. Either way, it's way too many for a Godly man. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
to be a Christian cult. I guess the phrase Christian cult is an oxymoron to you? Have you ever found a dictionary to define a cult in the way that you use the word, as not a Christian group? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
IS THE LORD GOD HIMSELF IN HUMAN FLESH. That's interesting. According to this definition, Mormons are not a cult. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-21 Thread David Miller
not saying that Job had never sinned in his whole life. I'm only saying that he had entered into a place where he did not sin, and I believe he did that through Jesus Christ, but that's another lesson. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-22 Thread David Miller
States in different languages? Would that be right? Think about it. Of course it would not be right. The people own that document, just like the people own the Word of God collectively, not some particular individual or corporation. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-22 Thread David Miller
. Jesus said that if he wanted to be perfect, he needed to sell all that he had and follow Jesus. If the rich young ruler did that, would he have been perfect? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-22 Thread David Miller
the life of Jesus Christ. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. (1 John 4:17) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-22 Thread David Miller
communicating? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-22 Thread David Miller
you disagree. Just scoffing at me and characterizing me as saying things that I have not said is not making a rational case against my perspective. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every

Re: [TruthTalk] Matthew 5:48 Coffman's Commentary and ABSOLUTE PERFECTION

2002-10-22 Thread David Miller
life? Jesus said that if he wanted to be perfect, he needed to sell all that he had and follow Jesus. If the rich young ruler did that, would he have been perfect? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

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