Re: [tryton] Neso retirement

[Cédric Krier]

On 2016-06-02 23:39, Cédric Krier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to propose to stop publishing neso.

So we are going to retire neso: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5642

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Re: [tryton] Neso retirement

[Albert Cervera i Areny]

2016-06-02 23:39 GMT+02:00 Cédric Krier :
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose to stop publishing neso.
> Some reasons are:
>
> - It always fails to run on each major release (ex: see issue5529)
>   because nobody test it.
>
> - I think it is almost not used because nobody complains about it
>   not working on 4.0
>
> - It became a kind of horrible hack because it monkey patch tryton
>   and it needs to bundle all the module dependencies in py2exe.
>
> - It doesn't work for MacOS X for a long period.
>
> - It kind of blocks isue5384.
>
> - We do not have an easy way to migrate from neso to a standard
>   PostgreSQL setup.
>
> Also historically, we made neso as a simple way to demonstrate Tryton.
> At this time we did not have a demo server. But now, this mission is not
> really achieved because of all the problems it has.
> Now, we have many alternatives to demonstrate (ex: demo.tryton.org, the
> free hosting like sisalp.fr, etc.) and it is even easier thanks to sao.
>
> So what do you think?

I agree on removing it too. Given that many others suggested docker, I
think we could work on having an official docker image [1] and a
docker-compose YAML for use the docker image with the official
PostgreSQL docker image [2].

Apart from a Dockerfile and docker-compose.yml, we (at NaN-tic) have a
Vagrantfile for creating a development environment (using our own
tools) which also installs PostgreSQL and required debian packages in
a VirtualBox VM, in case somebody is interested in creating something
that that could be published on tryton.org.

[1] https://docs.docker.com/docker-hub/official_repos/
[2] https://hub.docker.com/_/postgres/

>
> https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5529
> https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5384
>
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Re: [tryton] Neso retirement

[Armand Mpassy-Nzoumba]

> 
> And what about docker images as other suggested?

Yes, I may be a good alternative. We should give it a try.

Regards
Armand

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Re: [tryton] Neso retirement

[Cédric Krier]

On 2016-06-03 10:14, Armand Mpassy-Nzoumba wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I would like to propose to stop publishing neso.
> > 
> 
> Hi Cedric and all,
> 
> I understand that keeping Neso add unnecessary workload. However for 
> demonstration purposes it is still the perfect tool in our environment. I am 
> talking about countries in Africa where Internet connectivity is still very 
> expensive and where a number of people are still using old Windows based PCs.
> Keeping Neso will help adopting Tryton.

And what about docker images as other suggested?

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Re: [tryton] Neso retirement

[Armand Mpassy-Nzoumba]

> 
> I would like to propose to stop publishing neso.
> 

Hi Cedric and all,

I understand that keeping Neso add unnecessary workload. However for 
demonstration purposes it is still the perfect tool in our environment. I am 
talking about countries in Africa where Internet connectivity is still very 
expensive and where a number of people are still using old Windows based PCs.
Keeping Neso will help adopting Tryton.
The Tryton project is a gift to people in this countries. We are working 
towards extending the Tryton communities here. Tryton and other FOSS will 
enable organisations to be managed properly in a cost effective manner. And one 
of the main reason of under-development is the mis-management of organisations 
like hospitals, administrations, schools, etc. Up to now, only very expensive 
software were available. This explained the very limited adoption of IT tools 
Africa.

Kind regards,

Armand

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Re: [tryton] Neso retirement

[Ralf Peschke]

Hi,

I never used it and don't will miss it.

Best regards

Ralf Peschke


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