Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simon Laws wrote: > > On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Simon Laws wrote: > >> > What would be put in specific logging properties? > > > >>> The usual logging configuration, what we

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simon Laws wrote: What would be put in specific logging properties? The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level to be on a module by module bases, what ha

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simon Laws wrote: > > > >> What would be put in specific logging properties? > >> > > > > > > The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level > to > > be on a module by module bases, what handlers to use, conf

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: What would be put in specific logging properties? The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level to be on a module by module bases, what handlers to use, configuration of the handlers e.g. if it's a file handler where to put the file and what t

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > Simon Laws wrote: > > > >> Ok, so we know there is no generally acceptable logging interface. Has > >> > > been proved time and time again. All we can hope to do is use something > that > > suits us and doesn't mess up anyon

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] Simon Laws wrote: Ok, so we know there is no generally acceptable logging interface. Has been proved time and time again. All we can hope to do is use something that suits us and doesn't mess up anyone who wants to embed our code. I'm perfectly happy to +1 JDK logging. However wit

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) > > > > Simon Laws wrote: > >> On 8/20/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On

JDKLogger calls, was: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-30 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
rom: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: < tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws &l

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-29 Thread Raymond Feng
stien Delfino" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: < tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-29 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ot; < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: < tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws < [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-28 Thread Simon Laws
gt; > Thanks, > > > Raymond > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" > > > < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: < tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org> > > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM > >

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-20 Thread Simon Laws
t; > < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM > > Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) > > > > > >> [snip] > >> ant elder wrote: > >> > >>> And also my 2p inline... &g

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-20 Thread Simon Nash
See inline. Simon Raymond Feng wrote: Comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder w

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-17 Thread Raymond Feng
Comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ..

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-17 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A number of different requirements have been discussed and solutions proposed. My 2p (I'm using Raymond's definitions b.t.w) Tracing: Dump out input/output/exception for method call

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-16 Thread ant elder
And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A number of different requirements have been discussed and solutions > proposed. My 2p (I'm using Raymond's definitions b.t.w) > > Tracing: Dump out input/output/exception for method calls for the purpose > o

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-16 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ant elder wrote: > > On 8/10/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Simon Laws wrote: > >> > >>> On 8/8/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-15 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 8/10/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On 8/8/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We talked about this before ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-11 Thread ant elder
On 8/10/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simon Laws wrote: > > On 8/8/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> We talked about this before ( > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg1

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-10 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On 8/8/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We talked about this before ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but didn't come to any conclusions. So, 1/ What is the requirement? 2/ W

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-08 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/8/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We talked about this before ( > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but > > didn't come to any conclusions. So, > > > > 1/ What is the requirement? > > 2/

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-08 Thread ant elder
On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We talked about this before ( > http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but > didn't come to any conclusions. So, > > 1/ What is the requirement? > 2/ What is the technical solution? > 3/ When should we try and get it

Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-07 Thread Simon Laws
We talked about this before ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but didn't come to any conclusions. So, 1/ What is the requirement? 2/ What is the technical solution? 3/ When should we try and get it done? To get things going again here are some thoughts drawn f