RE: OSGi Binding

2006-12-18 Thread Andy Piper
[Sorry for the very late comments, only just catching up] I agree that fragments are a logical way to go here. At 14:44 09/11/2006, Hawkins, Joel wrote: OSGi has a concept known as a Bundle Fragment. A fragment is packaged as a separate bundle, but at runtime acts is if it were packaged

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-12-18 Thread Andy Piper
At 21:04 09/11/2006, Hawkins, Joel wrote: @Nicole: Accessing the classloader corresponding to a particular bundle. It's a back-door cheat like the Declarative Services guys use, and its very implementation-specific. Plus it's nice to have a place to isolate implementation-specific stuff. :-)

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-12-18 Thread Andy Piper
At 22:14 09/11/2006, Jim Marino wrote: in a war, it may go in the /lib directory. For OSGi bindle fragments, is there a deployment API/mechanism where I can take a plain jar (i.e. no OSGi manifest entries), hand it to the OSGI container and declare that it is a fragment (maybe it is something

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-12-18 Thread Hawkins, Joel
-Original Message- From: Andy Piper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:21 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding [Sorry for the very late comments, only just catching up] I agree that fragments are a logical way to go

RE: OSGi-Binding: Generation of Bundles

2006-11-27 Thread Hawkins, Joel
Hi Nicole, I was out on vacation last week, so my apologies for not answering your mail sooner. I think your second alternative, namely creating virtual bundles on the fly in the manner of the Spring-OSGi integration, would be the preferable way to go. It seems more in keeping with the

Re: OSGi-Binding: Generation of Bundles

2006-11-25 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Nicole, Comments below. One general thing is if you have code it is better to submit it as small patches, even if incomplete, than one big patch. That makes our job committing it a little easier and also allows people to comment or get involved early on. So, even if it is still rough,

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-13 Thread Hawkins, Joel
Tuesday 8 PST works for me as well. Cheers, Joel -Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:01 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Tuesday 8 PST works for me. Thanks Nicole -Original Message

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-13 Thread Jim Marino
Binding Tuesday 8 PST works for me. Thanks Nicole -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:05 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: OSGi Binding Monday early morning is bad for me (I have a meeting starting early). Could we

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-12 Thread Wengatz, Nicole
-Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:48 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Sure. I could be available. Nicole, what Timezone are you in? I'm PST, Joel, I believe you are CST. I'm CET (Germany

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-11 Thread Wengatz, Nicole
Tuesday 8 PST works for me. Thanks Nicole -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:05 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: OSGi Binding Monday early morning is bad for me (I have a meeting starting early). Could we do

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Marino
-Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:48 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Sure. I could be available. Nicole, what Timezone are you in? I'm PST, Joel, I believe you are CST. I'm CET (Germany). Having

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Marino
runtimes. What do you guys think? Jim Thanks, Joel -Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:48 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Sure. I could be available. Nicole, what Timezone are you in? I'm

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Marino
Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:48 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Sure. I could be available. Nicole, what Timezone are you in? I'm PST, Joel, I believe you are CST. I'm CET (Germany). Having the IRC

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-09 Thread Hawkins, Joel
I think an IRC might be helpful. Comments below: -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:12 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: OSGi Binding ...services. I would also like to avoid proxying the OSGi services

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-09 Thread Wengatz, Nicole
Nicole -Original Message- From: Hawkins, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:44 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding I think an IRC might be helpful. Comments below: -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-09 Thread Hawkins, Joel
, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:57 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Hi, thanks for providing the information :-) I like Joels idea to use fragment bundles. Seems to be a good way to solve the classloading challenge. Is there any

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-09 Thread Jim Marino
, November 09, 2006 1:12 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: OSGi Binding ...services. I would also like to avoid proxying the OSGi services if possible. Can you define what you mean by proxying the OSGi service? Sorry if I'm being dense. Are you referring to support for an optimized wire

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-09 Thread Jim Marino
-Original Message- From: Hawkins, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:44 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding I think an IRC might be helpful. Comments below: -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-09 Thread Wengatz, Nicole
regards Nicole -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:14 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: OSGi Binding On Nov 9, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: I think an IRC might be helpful. Comments below: Sure. I could

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-08 Thread Jim Marino
-Original Message- From: Hawkins, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:55 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Jasny, Robert Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Hi guys - answers (and more questions) inline: -Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Nicole, Sorry I haven't responded yet but I wanted to spend some time going over the slides you sent (thanks a lot for them). I'll respond over the weekend. Jim On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Joel and other OSGi interested guys, I

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread Wengatz, Nicole
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:47 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: OSGi Binding High Nicole, Jim and other OSGi interested guys, Nicole - I think your usage scenarios all look reasonable. I've been able to get the local ones working (demoed at Eclipse world

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread Hawkins, Joel
Hi guys - answers (and more questions) inline: -Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:32 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Jasny, Robert Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Hi Joel, I discussed your EMail with my colleague Robert

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread Wengatz, Nicole
: OSGi Binding Hi guys - answers (and more questions) inline: -Original Message- From: Wengatz, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:32 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Jasny, Robert Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Hi Joel, I discussed your EMail with my colleague

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread Hawkins, Joel
to support both models. Sound good? Best regards Nicole -Original Message- From: Hawkins, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:55 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Jasny, Robert Subject: RE: OSGi Binding Hi guys - answers (and more questions) inline

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread ant elder
On 11/3/06, Hawkins, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll get the samples and the prototype runtime as well. I'll have it in the mail to you and Robert today. I think it'll really help our discussions, instead of me waving my hands about my head and writing about things you haven't seen! ;-)

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread Hawkins, Joel
: ant elder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:09 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: OSGi Binding On 11/3/06, Hawkins, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll get the samples and the prototype runtime as well. I'll have it in the mail to you and Robert today. I

Re: OSGi Binding

2006-11-03 Thread ant elder
On 11/3/06, Hawkins, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as soon as I can get around to making the maven builds work, I was just going to raise a JIRA and attach the patch. Would you like me to make a JIRA and attach what I'm planning on sending Nicole, and do the patch later? I'm fine either

RE: OSGi Binding

2006-11-01 Thread Hawkins, Joel
High Nicole, Jim and other OSGi interested guys, Nicole - I think your usage scenarios all look reasonable. I've been able to get the local ones working (demoed at Eclipse world), but I haven't had much luck yet with the remote ones. I'm having issues with the Axis2 binding right now - I'm hoping