Re: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-05-02 Thread PGage
I don’t dispute the inaccuracies, or even that many of them seem unnecessary and (as I have said with The Logo) unnecessarily mean spirited). But, while in a documentary inaccuracies even in small details legitimately undermine the value and credibility of the whole whorl, with a project like this

Re: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-05-01 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
Allegedly this project was either what led to McKay and Will Ferrell breaking their professional (and possibly personal) relationship, or the final straw.  But alas, it has little to do with the veracity of the project but that Ferrell wanted to play Jerry Buss. I recognize it can be

Re: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-04-30 Thread davesik...@gmail.com
I'll agree it's fiction, rather than a documentary, but the problem for me is less that the Lakers/Celtics game was in February and the second game they played than it's utterly baffling what the point McKay wants to make is. If he's going to portray the Boston fans as racist assholes,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-04-30 Thread PGage
I have just watched episodes 5-8, and have to say I am liking it more and more. Of course it gets many of the historical details wrong. I believe the Lakers and Celtics did play in late December that first year, but that was the Forum game Dave mentions the Lakers won handily. The nail biter at

Re: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-04-21 Thread 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
I was a fan of those Lakers, too, and I just can't get past the, frankly, stupid and unnecessary tinkering with history in the name of creating a (badly-told) story. The most egregious examples in the latest episode were that, despite the show claiming that the first Lakers/Celtics game that

RE: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-04-20 Thread Brad Beam
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PGage >But it’s portrayal of West is more puzzlingly extreme and distorted. West was >(and is) extremely intense, but it is fueled more by pathological and self >destructive anxiety, not insecurity or

Re: [TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-04-20 Thread PGage
The list of things I am actually an expert on is very small; one of the items on that list is the Lakers in general, and the Showtime era in particular. I actually am enjoying the HBO series, even though Kareem is my favorite athlete of all time, and Jerry West one of my childhood heroes. Kareem,

[TV orNotTV] Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rip "Winning Time"

2022-04-20 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV
The Lakers greats took different paths to do so... West fired off a nasty letter to Adam McKay and HBO calling for legal retraction of his portrayal, while "Cap" on his (paywalled) blog generally knocked the "bland characterization" and questioned how it "turn[ed West] into a Wile E. Coyote