Re: RE: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

[Doug Eastick]

Thanks David.   I was kinda figuring that some of the characters the
"featured" have pitched made it into major skits, with hopes that they get
regular positions on SNL.



On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 1:21 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Oddly enough (at least to me) the SNL page on the Wikipedia doesn't
> explain what differences there are between featured and full cast members.
> Like Doug, I'm assuming they are on different payscales/contracts.
>
> An SNL wiki hosted on Fandom claims that this distinction started in
> season five (1980), with some differences over the years until season 23
> (1998).  From then on, this claims that all cast members start as
> featured.  As this wiki isn't sourced, I'm skeptical.
>
> This Quora answer quotes an interview with Rachel Dratch (the link to
> which has rotted).
>
> https://www.quora.com/On-Saturday-Night-Live-what-is-the-difference-between-the-cast-before-and-after-and-featuring
>
> It supports the notion that everyone starts as featured, as it was in
> Dratch's contract that she would be 'featured' for two seasons before
> becoming regular cast.  She goes on to say that getting featured people
> screen time is a lower priority.  But, as seems to be common, if you write
> something good enough to get on the show, you can cast yourself in it.  I
> would also guess if you do good enough work, you'd get bumped up to full
> cast sooner.
>
> I am *not* sufficiently motivated to try and read the Tom Shales book on
> SNL to see if this is explained therein.
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2018, 11:10:15 PM EDT, Doug Fields <
> d...@flids.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have no first-hand knowledge, but I’ve always assumed the main
> difference between the two (other than the obvious priority billing in the
> credits for the cast members) is the paycheck, with official cast members
> getting a higher salary than the featured players.  As to the amount of
> screen time, I don’t think it matters much…cast members and featured
> players all seem to get varying number of appearances.  For some reason,
> (cast member) Pete Davidson often gets less air time than many of the
> featured players…which they’ve turned into a running joke on the show.
>
>
>
> Doug Fields
>
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Doug Eastick
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:00 PM
> *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers
>
>
>
> what's the official diff between 'featured' and 'cast members' ???
>
> Mikey, Melissa, and Alex have been major people in my view of 2017-2018
> season.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:30 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
> Ego Nwodim graduated with a biology degree from USC, but liked the UCB
> better.
>
>
>
> LINK
> 
>
>
>
> Also, they added four new writers. Any names ring a bell?
>
> Alan Linic, Alison Gates, Eli Mandel and Bowen Yang.
>
> Anyone else announced as not coming back this season?
>
>
>
> From eonline:
>
>
>
> Nwodim's casting news comes soon after it was announced that *Mikey Day*, 
> *Melissa
> Villaseñor* and *Alex Moffat* have been made cast members, while* Chris
> Redd* and *Heidi Gardner* will return as featured players. *Luke Null*,
> who joined the show last year, is not returning.
>
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Re: RE: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Oddly enough (at least to me) the SNL page on the Wikipedia doesn't explain 
what differences there are between featured and full cast members.  Like Doug, 
I'm assuming they are on different payscales/contracts.
An SNL wiki hosted on Fandom claims that this distinction started in season 
five (1980), with some differences over the years until season 23 (1998).  From 
then on, this claims that all cast members start as featured.  As this wiki 
isn't sourced, I'm skeptical.
This Quora answer quotes an interview with Rachel Dratch (the link to which has 
rotted).https://www.quora.com/On-Saturday-Night-Live-what-is-the-difference-between-the-cast-before-and-after-and-featuring
It supports the notion that everyone starts as featured, as it was in Dratch's 
contract that she would be 'featured' for two seasons before becoming regular 
cast.  She goes on to say that getting featured people screen time is a lower 
priority.  But, as seems to be common, if you write something good enough to 
get on the show, you can cast yourself in it.  I would also guess if you do 
good enough work, you'd get bumped up to full cast sooner.

I am *not* sufficiently motivated to try and read the Tom Shales book on SNL to 
see if this is explained therein.

On Saturday, September 22, 2018, 11:10:15 PM EDT, Doug Fields 
 wrote:  
 
 
I have no first-hand knowledge, but I’ve always assumed the main difference 
between the two (other than the obvious priority billing in the credits for the 
cast members) is the paycheck, with official cast members getting a higher 
salary than the featured players.  As to the amount of screen time, I don’t 
think it matters much…cast members and featured players all seem to get varying 
number of appearances.  For some reason, (cast member) Pete Davidson often gets 
less air time than many of the featured players…which they’ve turned into a 
running joke on the show. 
 
  
 
Doug Fields
 
Tampa, FL
 
  
 
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Doug 
Eastick
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:00 PM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers
 
  
 
what's the official diff between 'featured' and 'cast members' ???
 
Mikey, Melissa, and Alex have been major people in my view of 2017-2018 season.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:30 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
 

Ego Nwodim graduated with a biology degree from USC, but liked the UCB better.
 
  
 
LINK
 
  
 
Also, they added four new writers. Any names ring a bell? 
 
Alan Linic, Alison Gates, Eli Mandel and Bowen Yang.
 
Anyone else announced as not coming back this season?
 

  
 
>From eonline:
 
  
 
Nwodim's casting news comes soon after it was announced thatMikey Day,Melissa 
Villaseñor andAlex Moffat have been made cast members, while Chris Redd 
andHeidi Gardner will return as featured players.Luke Null, who joined the show 
last year, is not returning.
 

  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

[Doug Eastick]

true.  Davison only seems to get a stint on weekend update.  I don't seem
to recall him in live skits, at least with any significance.

But, kudos to him, he did get a talented fiancée from SNL interaction.



On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:10 PM Doug Fields  wrote:

> I have no first-hand knowledge, but I’ve always assumed the main
> difference between the two (other than the obvious priority billing in the
> credits for the cast members) is the paycheck, with official cast members
> getting a higher salary than the featured players.  As to the amount of
> screen time, I don’t think it matters much…cast members and featured
> players all seem to get varying number of appearances.  For some reason,
> (cast member) Pete Davidson often gets less air time than many of the
> featured players…which they’ve turned into a running joke on the show.
>
>
>
> Doug Fields
>
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Doug Eastick
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:00 PM
> *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers
>
>
>
> what's the official diff between 'featured' and 'cast members' ???
>
> Mikey, Melissa, and Alex have been major people in my view of 2017-2018
> season.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:30 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
> Ego Nwodim graduated with a biology degree from USC, but liked the UCB
> better.
>
>
>
> LINK
> 
>
>
>
> Also, they added four new writers. Any names ring a bell?
>
> Alan Linic, Alison Gates, Eli Mandel and Bowen Yang.
>
> Anyone else announced as not coming back this season?
>
>
>
> From eonline:
>
>
>
> Nwodim's casting news comes soon after it was announced that *Mikey Day*, 
> *Melissa
> Villaseñor* and *Alex Moffat* have been made cast members, while* Chris
> Redd* and *Heidi Gardner* will return as featured players. *Luke Null*,
> who joined the show last year, is not returning.
>
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RE: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

[Doug Fields]

I have no first-hand knowledge, but I’ve always assumed the main difference 
between the two (other than the obvious priority billing in the credits for the 
cast members) is the paycheck, with official cast members getting a higher 
salary than the featured players.  As to the amount of screen time, I don’t 
think it matters much…cast members and featured players all seem to get varying 
number of appearances.  For some reason, (cast member) Pete Davidson often gets 
less air time than many of the featured players…which they’ve turned into a 
running joke on the show.

Doug Fields
Tampa, FL

From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Doug 
Eastick
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:00 PM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

what's the official diff between 'featured' and 'cast members' ???
Mikey, Melissa, and Alex have been major people in my view of 2017-2018 season.





On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:30 PM Tom Wolper 
mailto:twol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM Steve Timko 
mailto:steveti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ego Nwodim graduated with a biology degree from USC, but liked the UCB better.

LINK

Also, they added four new writers. Any names ring a bell?
Alan Linic, Alison Gates, Eli Mandel and Bowen Yang.
Anyone else announced as not coming back this season?

>From eonline:

Nwodim's casting news comes soon after it was announced that Mikey Day, Melissa 
Villaseñor and Alex Moffat have been made cast members, while Chris Redd and 
Heidi Gardner will return as featured players. Luke Null, who joined the show 
last year, is not returning.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

[Doug Eastick]

what's the official diff between 'featured' and 'cast members' ???
Mikey, Melissa, and Alex have been major people in my view of 2017-2018
season.





On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:30 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> Ego Nwodim graduated with a biology degree from USC, but liked the UCB
>> better.
>>
>> LINK
>> 
>>
>> Also, they added four new writers. Any names ring a bell?
>> Alan Linic, Alison Gates, Eli Mandel and Bowen Yang.
>> Anyone else announced as not coming back this season?
>>
>
> From eonline:
>
> Nwodim's casting news comes soon after it was announced that *Mikey Day*, 
> *Melissa
> Villaseñor* and *Alex Moffat* have been made cast members, while* Chris
> Redd* and *Heidi Gardner* will return as featured players. *Luke Null*,
> who joined the show last year, is not returning.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: condolences

[Doug Eastick]

Kevin - please do not feel bad about posting that gofundme link here.  I
believe, based on tvbarn tenure, you have the right to post it here to the
'friends you've likely never met'  (I know you have met some).   Again, I
hope you and your family make it through this period with family unity and
understanding.

I've made my donation.

If you ever need a black-hole to vent into, please feel free to email me.
or skype or voice, or whatever.  You've given me enough laughs that I can
pay something back.   I know that some employers have "Employee Assistance
Programs" where you can get some counselling for free, but I'm unsure if
your anal-lube-label-printer offers that -- perhaps enquire about that.
Heck, even ask your funeral provider if they offer counselling gratis.




On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 8:40 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Thanks again to those who both publicly and privately offered their
> kindness and sympathy. We are all in a bit of a haze as we try to gather
> ourselves and figure out — yet again — what the “new normal” is.
>
> My oldest brother and I met with the director of the local funeral home
> today. The sticker shock was... well... shocking. Anyway, if I may impose
> one last personal request, the family has started a GoFundMe to help cover
> mom’s funeral arrangements. If you are so inclined, here is the link. If
> not, it will be the last time I post the link, and I apologize to those who
> feel it is out of place to post it here.
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/barb-marousek-funeral-fund
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 1:56 PM Melissa P 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, Kevin, I am so sorry to read about your mom.  I spend almost no time
>> on Facebook these days, but I remember her often being a presence on
>> your page.
>>
>> I can't say that I almost got to meet her, but I remember that back in
>> 2008 you helped me write a piece for a contest with the agreement that if I
>> won, I would take your mom with me to claim the prize, which I readily
>> agreed to do.  Unfortunately, I didn't win (although I should have!), so
>> your mom and I didn't get to claim the experience.
>>
>> Please know that I will be thinking of you.
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:01 PM, Kevin M. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to you all. Today has been hard, but having the kindness and
>>> support of so many from all over makes it a little bit easier. Mom fought
>>> hard. I wouldn’t trade these last few weeks with her for anything. We
>>> laughed, we cried, and she reminded me why family is so important, even my
>>> own crazy, goofy, silly, dysfunctional family.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>>>
 Awful news. Thinking of you, Kevin.

 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 9:42 PM PGage  wrote:

> So sorry Kevin. The pain of that loss can be deep and complex. Hope
> you are able to spend time with family and friends. We are thinking of you
> here.
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:09 PM Doug Eastick 
> wrote:
>
>> I just saw on Facebook that Kevin's mom passed away.  He had
>> travelled from California recently to be with her in Nebraska during
>> medical care.
>>
>> Kevin, my condolences to you and your family.  I'm sure the
>> regulars here and tvbarn pass the same over to you.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL question?

[Tom Wolper]

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 5:39 PM daniel anderson <
danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe CBS should do a seamless transition to 60 Minutes- do they really
> need to have a local break between the end of the late game and 60?
>

It's prime commercial time. There are viewers who are still around after
the game and new ones tuning in waiting for the start of 60 Minutes.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] New SNL cast member, four new writers

[Tom Wolper]

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Ego Nwodim graduated with a biology degree from USC, but liked the UCB
> better.
>
> LINK
> 
>
> Also, they added four new writers. Any names ring a bell?
> Alan Linic, Alison Gates, Eli Mandel and Bowen Yang.
> Anyone else announced as not coming back this season?
>

>From eonline:

Nwodim's casting news comes soon after it was announced that *Mikey
Day*, *Melissa
Villaseñor* and *Alex Moffat* have been made cast members, while* Chris
Redd* and *Heidi Gardner* will return as featured players. *Luke Null*, who
joined the show last year, is not returning.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: condolences

[Kevin M.]

Thanks again to those who both publicly and privately offered their
kindness and sympathy. We are all in a bit of a haze as we try to gather
ourselves and figure out — yet again — what the “new normal” is.

My oldest brother and I met with the director of the local funeral home
today. The sticker shock was... well... shocking. Anyway, if I may impose
one last personal request, the family has started a GoFundMe to help cover
mom’s funeral arrangements. If you are so inclined, here is the link. If
not, it will be the last time I post the link, and I apologize to those who
feel it is out of place to post it here.

https://www.gofundme.com/barb-marousek-funeral-fund


On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 1:56 PM Melissa P 
wrote:

> Oh, Kevin, I am so sorry to read about your mom.  I spend almost no time
> on Facebook these days, but I remember her often being a presence on your
> page.
>
> I can't say that I almost got to meet her, but I remember that back in
> 2008 you helped me write a piece for a contest with the agreement that if I
> won, I would take your mom with me to claim the prize, which I readily
> agreed to do.  Unfortunately, I didn't win (although I should have!), so
> your mom and I didn't get to claim the experience.
>
> Please know that I will be thinking of you.
>
> Melissa
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:01 PM, Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to you all. Today has been hard, but having the kindness and
>> support of so many from all over makes it a little bit easier. Mom fought
>> hard. I wouldn’t trade these last few weeks with her for anything. We
>> laughed, we cried, and she reminded me why family is so important, even my
>> own crazy, goofy, silly, dysfunctional family.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>>
>>> Awful news. Thinking of you, Kevin.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 9:42 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>
 So sorry Kevin. The pain of that loss can be deep and complex. Hope you
 are able to spend time with family and friends. We are thinking of you 
 here.

 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:09 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> I just saw on Facebook that Kevin's mom passed away.  He had travelled
> from California recently to be with her in Nebraska during medical care.
>
> Kevin, my condolences to you and your family.  I'm sure the
> regulars here and tvbarn pass the same over to you.
>
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: ESPN moves "High Noon" to 4PM east

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Moi, August 13th:
>
>
> And cuts the hour-long Bomani Jones/Pablo Torre talker in half, effective 
> Sept 11. "Dan LeBatard is Highly Questionable" remains at 4.30.
>
> The move effectively kills "SportsNation," which probably sucked in the 
> ratings after Michelle Beedle left. One of its current hosts, Cari 
> Champion, will co-anchor the hour-long SportsCenter plugging into the noon 
> slot.
>
> Pee-arr 
> 
>  
> from the Bunch (link)
>
>
> For whatever reason(s), SN survives on the tweetbox 
 (link)...

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[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL question?

[daniel anderson]

Maybe CBS should do a seamless transition to 60 Minutes- do they really 
need to have a local break between the end of the late game and 60?

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 5:32:31 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> Why was CBS allowed to finish the Chiefs-Steelers telecast, but Fox wasn't 
> allowed to stay with the Vikings-Packers game once it went to overtime?
>

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[TV orNotTV] Comcast outbids FOX for Sky TV

[Steve Timko]

Sheesh, if this was going to be the outcome, I wonder if the Murdochs would
have canned Bill O'Reilly and others. Maybe they'll bring him back?

LINK 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: condolences

[Melissa P]

Oh, Kevin, I am so sorry to read about your mom.  I spend almost no time on
Facebook these days, but I remember her often being a presence on your page.

I can't say that I almost got to meet her, but I remember that back in 2008
you helped me write a piece for a contest with the agreement that if I won,
I would take your mom with me to claim the prize, which I readily agreed to
do.  Unfortunately, I didn't win (although I should have!), so your mom and
I didn't get to claim the experience.

Please know that I will be thinking of you.

Melissa

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:01 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> Thanks to you all. Today has been hard, but having the kindness and
> support of so many from all over makes it a little bit easier. Mom fought
> hard. I wouldn’t trade these last few weeks with her for anything. We
> laughed, we cried, and she reminded me why family is so important, even my
> own crazy, goofy, silly, dysfunctional family.
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
>> Awful news. Thinking of you, Kevin.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 9:42 PM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>> So sorry Kevin. The pain of that loss can be deep and complex. Hope you
>>> are able to spend time with family and friends. We are thinking of you here.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:09 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>>
 I just saw on Facebook that Kevin's mom passed away.  He had travelled
 from California recently to be with her in Nebraska during medical care.

 Kevin, my condolences to you and your family.  I'm sure the
 regulars here and tvbarn pass the same over to you.


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[TV orNotTV] Re: OT: condolences

[JW]

I'd just like to add my condolences, Kevin.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: condolences

[Adam Bowie]

So sorry to hear your news Kevin.  I'm so glad that you got to spend time
with her.


Adam

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018, 05:06 Brad Beam,  wrote:

> If she was anything like you, the world has no doubt lost a firecracker of
> a woman – and my grandmother (1923-2004) can’t wait to meet her.
>
>
>
> If she was nothing like you, then my mother (1947-2007) will be happy to
> commiserate.
>
>
>
> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Kevin M.
> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 23:02
> *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: condolences
>
>
>
> Thanks to you all. Today has been hard, but having the kindness and
> support of so many from all over makes it a little bit easier. Mom fought
> hard. I wouldn’t trade these last few weeks with her for anything. We
> laughed, we cried, and she reminded me why family is so important, even my
> own crazy, goofy, silly, dysfunctional family.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
> Awful news. Thinking of you, Kevin.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 9:42 PM PGage  wrote:
>
> So sorry Kevin. The pain of that loss can be deep and complex. Hope you
> are able to spend time with family and friends. We are thinking of you here.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:09 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
> I just saw on Facebook that Kevin's mom passed away.  He had travelled
> from California recently to be with her in Nebraska during medical care.
>
>
>
> Kevin, my condolences to you and your family.  I'm sure the regulars
> here and tvbarn pass the same over to you.
>
>
>
>
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