Re: [TV orNotTV] Mindy Kaling's movie about a late-night show

[PGage]

I just got around to seeing it this evening. Everyone in it is likable, and
the film itself manages to be likable without actually being good. I had
the impression it was going to be about the first woman late night
broadcast TV host, and it is, but that is more of a B plot. Mostly the film
is a critique of the elite white male POV in late night TV. This part of
the film clearly is paralleling Dave. Apparently someone (Kaling or her
backers) thought this critique would either be easier to accept, or more
original and interesting, when made about a female-run show. Maybe - 10
years ago. But today, while the critique is accurate and even still
necessary, it is more like conventional wisdom than dangerous or
subversive.  Also, the actual First Lady Host plot is fundamentally muddled
and incoherent. She is supposed to be a Letterman-like heroic trailblazer
who turned late night TV on its head 30 years ago with her innovative wit
and high standards, but who (also Dave like) became bored and disinterested
.ten years ago and has been turning out a mediocre product. But then that
means in this universe there has been a successful late night woman TV host
for 30 years already, so there can be nothing really new about that. Plus,
the plot has her finding her authentic voice, but repeatedly points out
that the show has never before done the kind of political, edgy,
controversial material that she is moving towards. But if that’s true, then
where did her reputation for being ashy and controversial come from in the
first place? Basically, the show never really lets us get to know the host,
then or now. It works ( kind of) because we know and love Emma Thompson,
and know her to be intelligent and witty and a woman with high standards,
so we assume the character must be like that too, even though we never
really see it.

The film is probably more revealing about the current state of the
television business than it is about gender in late night. Even though
audiences seem to like it more than I did, the film is predicted to lose
Amazon $40 million (
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/amazon-late-night-flop-bob-berney-exit-1203254436/).
Yet some are arguing the box office is not the way to evaluate the
financial impact of this and other Amazon theatrical releases; Amazon is
focused on dramatic and comedy series, and straight to service films. The
theatrical releases. With their big marketing budgets, function as
commercials for Amazon.com in general, and will drive new views to stream
the film after its theatrical run, and also drive broader consumer product
purchases across its platform. So even a big loser can be a win for them.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 8:58 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> I must have missed initial reports on this... she plays the new writer for
> a Letterman-ly woman host (Emma Thompson) whose other scribes are all white
> men... almost sounds like it was set around the time of Dave's advent to
> CBS (the bldg in the accompanying picture looks horribly like 524)...
> select cities now, wider later...
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/entertainment/late-night-review/index.html
> (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: A lit-tle lack of planning at Fox

[Tom Wolper]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 5:38 PM daniel anderson <
danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> fox should had yankees-red sox on a week when there wasn't a usga golf
> event scheduled.
>
> On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>> They'd figured the first of two Yankees/Red Sox clashes at London
>> (Olympic) Stadium would be a pitchers' duel, with the third round of a USGA
>> golf event following at 4pm east.
>>
>> At 4.30 they'd only played 5½, with the Yanks up 17-6. (The US Senior
>> Open got pushed to FS1.)
>> 
>>
>
A nine inning game took 4 hours and 42 minutes to play.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] "All Creatures Great and Small" headed back to PBS

[Brad Beam]

On something called 10 Peach, renamed from Eleven.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2019, at 05:18, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> It hasn't helped "Neighbours" any that Network 10 in Australia runs the show 
> on a flanker channel instead of the main channel).

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[TV orNotTV] AP News: Friday's US win most-watched WWC quarterfinal match

[Steve Timko]

Friday's US win most-watched WWC quarterfinal match

The Americans' 2-1 victory over France set a record for the most-watched
Women's World Cup quarterfinal match on U.S. Englis...

Read the full story on https://apnews.com/6b2808ebd43347328b798925c80254ac

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[TV orNotTV] Re: A lit-tle lack of planning at Fox

[daniel anderson]

fox should had yankees-red sox on a week when there wasn't a usga golf 
event scheduled.

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> They'd figured the first of two Yankees/Red Sox clashes at London 
> (Olympic) Stadium would be a pitchers' duel, with the third round of a USGA 
> golf event following at 4pm east.
>
> At 4.30 they'd only played 5½, with the Yanks up 17-6. (The US Senior Open 
> got pushed to FS1.)
>
> There was a mascot race, for those who enjoy them here: Freddie Mercury, 
> HM King Henry VIII, Winston Churchill, and the Loch Ness Monster 
>  
> (ESPN link).
>
> Mr Buck was served a massive "hot dog" (north of a foot, I think) with 
> plenty of toppings.
>
> B
>
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[TV orNotTV] A lit-tle lack of planning at Fox

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

They'd figured the first of two Yankees/Red Sox clashes at London (Olympic) 
Stadium would be a pitchers' duel, with the third round of a USGA golf 
event following at 4pm east.

At 4.30 they'd only played 5½, with the Yanks up 17-6. (The US Senior Open 
got pushed to FS1.)

There was a mascot race, for those who enjoy them here: Freddie Mercury, HM 
King Henry VIII, Winston Churchill, and the Loch Ness Monster 
 
(ESPN link).

Mr Buck was served a massive "hot dog" (north of a foot, I think) with 
plenty of toppings.

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Thoughts on the debates?

[Steve Timko]

>
> Round 2 of Democratic debate is party's most-watched ever
>
>
> LOS ANGELES (AP) - NBC says round two of the Democratic presidential
> debate was the party's most-watched ever.
>
> Based on Nielsen figures out Friday, the event including early
> front-runners Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders averaged 18.1 million viewers
> across NBC, MSNBC and Telemundo.
>
> That topped the previous Democratic debate audience high of 15.5 million
> for an October 2015 event, which included eventual nominee Hillary Clinton.
>
> Viewership for that debate was previously estimated at 15.8 million.
>
> Neither of this week's debates approached the audience for the first 2016
> GOP primary debate, with newcomer Donald Trump driving curiosity. It drew
> nearly 24 million viewers on Fox News Channel.
>
> The pair of Democratic debates, the first of the 2020 campaign, split a
> field of 20 contenders into two groups.
>
> A headline-making exchange Thursday involved former Vice President Biden
> and Sen. Kamala Harris, who sparred over Biden's civil rights record.
>
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Thoughts on the debates?

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

PGage, to Steve Timko, in part, Fri. (6/28):
>
> NBC clearly wanted the food fight interruptions that they inevitably got, 
> while pretending they didn’t, and using time excuses to cut off and 
> distract from candidate answers that were clearly winding down. I have 
> moderated a ton of student debates, and while not the same, I also know 
> there are ways to enforce time rules and speaking order without belittling 
> the participants. Yes it is a challenge with 10 participants, but it can be 
> done. One example - have stools behind each podium. Tell them only people 
> standing get to speak to current question. Have everyone sit, then pick 
> three to stand before asking question. If someone speaks while seated, they 
> forfeit next chance to stand for a question. Also, cut mikes to everyone 
> not asked to stand.


Full-length 'toobs were posted... while the first 
 (link) was manageable at just 
over 2½ hours, the second  
(link) wandered past 4... are Biden or Boinie that gassy?

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[TV orNotTV] Re: "One Day At A Time" rescued by Pop for 2020

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

It also helped that Netflix' original deal wouldn't let competitors (viz: 
CBS All Access) swoop in, Schwartz told Variety...

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/one-day-at-a-time-pop-tv-1203256029/ (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] "All Creatures Great and Small" headed back to PBS

[Mark Jeffries]

Quite a classy entry for the channel best known for many years, as one of
their own execs put it, "The Three Fs--films, football and f--king" (the
soft core porn was dropped years ago).  Still, their highest-profile shows
are still the Aussie soaps "Neighbours" and "Home and Away" (it is believed
that those shows have stayed on the air primarily due to the Channel 5
deals in the UK--it hasn't helped "Neighbours" any that Network 10 in
Australia runs the show on a flanker channel instead of the main channel).

Mark Jeffries
Saints Spotlight Editor
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:28 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> *Masterpiece*, specifically, as a reboot of the Herriot classic is picked
> up by Britain's Channel Five. BBC aired the original in the late 70s and a
> revival in the late 80s.
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/all-creatures-great-small-get-pbs-channel-5-reboot-1221360
> (link)
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