Re: [TV orNotTV] Review: David Spade's "Lights Out"

[PGage]

I feel honor bound, after my snarky comment about Spade (and, I guess,
Steve) to confess that I have now watched 3 or 4 of these shows and did not
hate all of them. As Steve said, a lot depends on the comics on the show,
and what you think of Spade. With 3 comics per night I’m not sure they can
keep doing as well as they have (maybe they will do repeats), but I have
been pretty impressed so far (even penalizing him heavily for the pity
booking of his old friend Dennis Miller last night).

My problem with the show is my fundamental problem with Spade; his snarky
persona can only really be funny if, underneath all of it, he is knowingly
making fun of himself. But he isn’t. Yes, he sometimes does put himself
down, but only by employing the same superficial yardstick to judge himself
and admitting he falls short. But he doesn’t bring the bit around to the
point of exploding the superficial metric itself, and the culture based on
it. It’s like watching the Old Colbert character and periodically realizing
the actor really does endorse nativistic, anti-intellectual values. The
jokes, even when funny, would start to make you sick. But in the current
age a show that does not engage in political humor is something of a
relief.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:21 PM PGage  wrote:

> I think we knew you were in the minority when you confessed to being a
> Spade fan...
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:06 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> David Spade’s “Lights Out” talk show finished its first week. It follows
>> “The Daily Show” on Comedy Central. I’m a Spade fan so I enjoyed the show.
>> I liked it better than Jordan Klepper’s show in that spot, although not as
>> much as Larry Wilmore’s show. The conceit of the show is that it stays away
>> from political humor.
>>
>> Turns out I’m in the minority. The how has averaged 270,000 same-day
>> viewers its first week and is losing more than half of the “The Daily Show”
>> audience.
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/lights-david-spade-premiere-week-ratings-1228374
>>
>> I think the best description of the show was by Thursday night guest Al
>> Madrigal, who said it was like Chelsea Handler’s talk show but with less
>> testosterone.  The show seemed to rise or fall on the quality of guests,
>> mostly comedians, Spade has on the show. The first night included Neal
>> Brennan and Whitney Cummings and both did a great job, especially breaking
>> Spade’s balls. The second night the comedians were Theo Von (every time I
>> hear that name I think of an Elmore Leonard villain), Jen Kirkman and
>> Candice Thompson. Von’s jabs were less successful. Kirkman did a call back
>> on the same joke until she ran it into the ground. The audience was silent.
>> The third night was Jim Jefferies, Kaley Cuoco and Steve Byrne. It picked
>> up again. Cuoco was game. They did a long segment where Spade pretended to
>> give directions to “Bachelorette” contestants that had laughs and also fell
>> flat. The last episode of the week included Madrigal, Sarah Tiana and Dana
>> Carvey. Carvey was trying hard to get his humor untracked and the jokes
>> fell flat. Madrigal and Tiana were dismissed for the final segment as Spade
>> and Carvey talked one-on-one, but it was not insightful and not funny.
>>
>> Spade seems to be working out the kinks. This is a weak time of year for
>> viewers, so maybe by fall he will have the show running more smoothly. As I
>> said before, I’m a fan of Spade, but I also know a little bit of David
>> Spade goes a long way for a lot of people.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Philly dealing with gunman

[Kevin M.]

Looks not unlike the active shooter situation we had just up the road from
me a few days ago... which looked like the previous one, which looked like
the one before that...

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 6:04 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> A precautionary note: In Reno drones will show up at brush fires and they
> will immediately blame the news media, but not one has ever been the news
> media.
> When drones fly firefighting aircraft can't.
>
> This tweet for the police PIO was disturbing, however. I suspect there's
> going to be some asses kicked by other news media.
> LINK TO TWEET
> 
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Tying up most of the network stations (ABC left). Cops came to the guy's
>> house with a warrant, he opens fire, six officers wounded (none
>> life-threatening). Neighbourhood in panic. As of now they're talking with
>> him, but he refuses to budge. PD on social telling media and others not to
>> send drones into the area. And if that isn't tense enough, there's
>> thunderstorms approaching the area.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-fired-upon-philadelphia-they-respond-shooting-incident-n1042436
>> (f'rinstance)
>>
>> "Nicetown" got its name from an early settler from what's now Germany
>> named Neus; he arrived in the late 1600s.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Philly dealing with gunman

[Steve Timko]

A precautionary note: In Reno drones will show up at brush fires and they
will immediately blame the news media, but not one has ever been the news
media.
When drones fly firefighting aircraft can't.

This tweet for the police PIO was disturbing, however. I suspect there's
going to be some asses kicked by other news media.
LINK TO TWEET 

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Tying up most of the network stations (ABC left). Cops came to the guy's
> house with a warrant, he opens fire, six officers wounded (none
> life-threatening). Neighbourhood in panic. As of now they're talking with
> him, but he refuses to budge. PD on social telling media and others not to
> send drones into the area. And if that isn't tense enough, there's
> thunderstorms approaching the area.
>
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-fired-upon-philadelphia-they-respond-shooting-incident-n1042436
> (f'rinstance)
>
> "Nicetown" got its name from an early settler from what's now Germany
> named Neus; he arrived in the late 1600s.
>
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Philly dealing with gunman

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Tying up most of the network stations (ABC left). Cops came to the guy's 
house with a warrant, he opens fire, six officers wounded (none 
life-threatening). Neighbourhood in panic. As of now they're talking with 
him, but he refuses to budge. PD on social telling media and others not to 
send drones into the area. And if that isn't tense enough, there's 
thunderstorms approaching the area.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-fired-upon-philadelphia-they-respond-shooting-incident-n1042436
 
(f'rinstance)

"Nicetown" got its name from an early settler from what's now Germany named 
Neus; he arrived in the late 1600s.

B

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[TV orNotTV] Re: "McLaughlin Group" to return to PBS

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

This show died in 2013 with Jack Germond.

--Dave Sikula

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 10:30:26 AM UTC-7, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> After resurfacing on Wa(r)shington's ABC7 last year, Maryland Public TV 
> picks up production in September, then in January comes national 
> distribution from American Public TV... Tom Rogan remains alongside 
> Buchanan, Clift, and Page...
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2019/08/the-mclaughlin-group-returning-to-pbs-in-january-1202667082/
>  
> (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[chialex]

Just me thinking back to the mid 2000s. No worries. 

-From: "Doug Fields" 
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday August 14 2019 12:43:51PM
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

   ??? Where do you see anything saying they're trying to get
Paramount Parks back? This merger is strictly between CBS and Viacom.
Cedar Fair (and Paramount Parks) isn't involved at all, unless I
missed something in the press release.  
   Doug Fields  Tampa, FL  
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 FROM: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of chia...@nc.rr.com 
 SENT: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:44 AM
 TO: 'tvornottv@googlegroups.com' 
 SUBJECT: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together againA propos of
nothing, but I don't see Cedar Fair giving up the parks it gained in
the Paramount Parks deal. But that's neither here nor there. 

 ~D

- From: "Doug Fields" 
 To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday August 14 2019 7:26:55AM
 Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

  The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company
decided to split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a
solution to an internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever
the guy in charge of MTV was at the time, over who would replace
Sumner Redstone when he retired).  
   The original Viacom took the name "CBS Corporation" after the
split, with the rest of the company (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures,
etc) taking the name "Viacom" as a completely new entity. Now, with
this merger, they're putting the band back together, the way it was 15
years ago.  
   Doug Fields  Tampa, FL   

-
 FROM: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Doug Eastick 
 SENT: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:58 AM
 TO: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
 SUBJECT: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again Why did I
think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already? Were they
already "close" on many fronts? 

  On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M.,  wrote:
Here is the formal announcement   
[2]
[3]https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf
[4] 

  On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV  wrote:
All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says
will come this afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered
following big plunges Monday... 
   [6]
[7]https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/
[8] (link)   
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Daily Show and FOX News "vacations"

[Steve Timko]

The fact Carlson went on vacation is proof the racists aren't winning.

On Aug 14, 2019, 11:46 AM, at 11:46 AM, "Kevin M."  
wrote:
>Carlson is a racist denying the existence of racists. I guess the
>segment
>was well produced, but to what end? Whose mind was swayed? What point
>was
>made? FoxNews hosts are offensive morons. That’s not new. They get
>slapped
>on the wrist with paid vacations to give the pretense of punishment.
>That’s
>not new either. And it isn’t funny.
>
>This clip exemplifies why I had to stop watching these shows. The
>racists
>are winning, and it isn’t funny.
>
>On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:26 AM Steve Timko 
>wrote:
>
>> Jon Stewart jokes how he was able to add a wing to his home because
>he
>> ridiculed FOX News. Trevor Noah announced they would not be a regular
>> target on his show. But Tucker Carlson got a sudden vacation and that
>> prompted a bit everyone should see.
>> https://youtu.be/Xqd6z-XhfU0
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Daily Show and FOX News "vacations"

[Kevin M.]

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:34 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> The fact Carlson went on vacation is proof the racists aren't winning.
>

He will be back. Or he’ll start a streaming service to be racist online. Or
he’ll run for office and win. Hardly a victory for the rest of us.

On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:46 AM, "Kevin M."  wrote:
>
>> Carlson is a racist denying the existence of racists. I guess the segment
>> was well produced, but to what end? Whose mind was swayed? What point was
>> made? FoxNews hosts are offensive morons. That’s not new. They get slapped
>> on the wrist with paid vacations to give the pretense of punishment. That’s
>> not new either. And it isn’t funny.
>>
>> This clip exemplifies why I had to stop watching these shows. The racists
>> are winning, and it isn’t funny.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:26 AM Steve Timko < steveti...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jon Stewart jokes how he was able to add a wing to his home because he
>>> ridiculed FOX News. Trevor Noah announced they would not be a regular
>>> target on his show. But Tucker Carlson got a sudden vacation and that
>>> prompted a bit everyone should see.
>>> https://youtu.be/Xqd6z-XhfU0
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Daily Show and FOX News "vacations"

[Kevin M.]

Carlson is a racist denying the existence of racists. I guess the segment
was well produced, but to what end? Whose mind was swayed? What point was
made? FoxNews hosts are offensive morons. That’s not new. They get slapped
on the wrist with paid vacations to give the pretense of punishment. That’s
not new either. And it isn’t funny.

This clip exemplifies why I had to stop watching these shows. The racists
are winning, and it isn’t funny.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:26 AM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Jon Stewart jokes how he was able to add a wing to his home because he
> ridiculed FOX News. Trevor Noah announced they would not be a regular
> target on his show. But Tucker Carlson got a sudden vacation and that
> prompted a bit everyone should see.
> https://youtu.be/Xqd6z-XhfU0
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[TV orNotTV] Daily Show and FOX News "vacations"

[Steve Timko]

Jon Stewart jokes how he was able to add a wing to his home because he
ridiculed FOX News. Trevor Noah announced they would not be a regular
target on his show. But Tucker Carlson got a sudden vacation and that
prompted a bit everyone should see.
https://youtu.be/Xqd6z-XhfU0

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[M-D November]

Per the 'pedia, Cedar Fair terminated their licensing agreement with CBS 
for Paramount properties (like Star Trek) in 2007-2008.  As for the parks 
themselves, some have been integrated into Cedar Fair's operations, and 
some have been sold.

It wouldn't be in CBS's best interest to go after Cedar Fair (either to get 
the parks back or to acquire the company as a whole) - unless you're Disney 
or Comcast and have the ancillary business to prop them up during down 
times, theme parks tend to be a losing proposition for movie 
studios/entertainment companies in the US.  (And I say this having worked 
at Six Flags Great Adventure at the tail end of the Time Warner era.)

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 10:45:02 AM UTC-4, BigOShowtime wrote:
>
> A propos of nothing, but I don't see Cedar Fair giving up the parks it 
> gained in the Paramount Parks deal. But that's neither here nor there. 
>
> ~D
>
> -
> From: "Doug Fields" 
> To: "tvor...@googlegroups.com "
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday August 14 2019 7:26:55AM
> Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again
>
> The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company decided 
> to split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a solution to 
> an internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever the guy in 
> charge of MTV was at the time, over who would replace Sumner Redstone when 
> he retired).
>
> The original Viacom took the name "CBS Corporation" after the split, with 
> the rest of the company (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures, etc) taking the name 
> "Viacom" as a completely new entity.  Now, with this merger, they're 
> putting the band back together, the way it was 15 years ago.
>
> Doug Fields
> Tampa, FL
>
> --
> *From:* tvor...@googlegroups.com   > on behalf of Doug Eastick >
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:58 AM
> *To:* tvor...@googlegroups.com   >
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again 
>  
> Why did I think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already?  
>  Were they already "close" on many fronts? 
>
>
>
> On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M.,  > wrote:
>
> Here is the formal announcement 
>
>
> 
> https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says will come 
> this afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered following big 
> plunges Monday...
>
> 
> https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/ 
> (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[M-D November]

Minor correction - the ORIGINAL Viacom was spun off of CBS to act as their 
syndication arm; they were forced to divest in the early '70s. In the late 
90s, THAT version of Viacom ultimately bought Westinghouse (which, by then, 
had bought CBS and renamed itself after the network).  They split again in 
2006; the company that became CBS, Inc. was essentially the legal successor 
to the original Viacom (as well as CBS), whereas the entity known as Viacom 
was, essentially, a new company.

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 7:27:00 AM UTC-4, Doug Fields wrote:
>
> The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company decided 
> to split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a solution to 
> an internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever the guy in 
> charge of MTV was at the time, over who would replace Sumner Redstone when 
> he retired).
>
> The original Viacom took the name "CBS Corporation" after the split, with 
> the rest of the company (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures, etc) taking the name 
> "Viacom" as a completely new entity.  Now, with this merger, they're 
> putting the band back together, the way it was 15 years ago.
>
> Doug Fields
> Tampa, FL
>
> --
> *From:* tvor...@googlegroups.com   > on behalf of Doug Eastick >
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:58 AM
> *To:* tvor...@googlegroups.com   >
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again 
>  
> Why did I think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already?  
>  Were they already "close" on many fronts? 
>
>
>
> On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M.,  > wrote:
>
> Here is the formal announcement 
>
>
> https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says will come 
> this afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered following big 
> plunges Monday...
>
> https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/ 
> (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[Doug Fields]

???  Where do you see anything saying they're trying to get Paramount Parks 
back?  This merger is strictly between CBS and Viacom.  Cedar Fair (and 
Paramount Parks) isn't involved at all, unless I missed something in the press 
release.

Doug Fields
Tampa, FL

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chia...@nc.rr.com 
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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

A propos of nothing, but I don't see Cedar Fair giving up the parks it gained 
in the Paramount Parks deal. But that's neither here nor there.

~D


-

From: "Doug Fields"
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 14 2019 7:26:55AM
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company decided to 
split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a solution to an 
internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever the guy in charge of 
MTV was at the time, over who would replace Sumner Redstone when he retired).

The original Viacom took the name "CBS Corporation" after the split, with the 
rest of the company (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures, etc) taking the name 
"Viacom" as a completely new entity.  Now, with this merger, they're putting 
the band back together, the way it was 15 years ago.

Doug Fields
Tampa, FL


From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Doug 
Eastick 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:58 AM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

Why did I think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already?   Were 
they already "close" on many fronts?



On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M., 
mailto:drunkbastar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here is the formal announcement

https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf


On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says will come this 
afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered following big plunges 
Monday...

https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/
 (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] "McLaughlin Group" to return to PBS

[M-D November]

This feels like as good a reason as any to post this link:
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-sinatra-group/n10008

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:34:53 AM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 9:18 PM Kevin M.  > wrote:
>
>> You can be a dissenter, but whatever the show was or whatever purpose it 
>> served, it is redundant in an arena where every supposed news program 
>> features a panel of blowhards.
>>
>
> I was in no way doing a critique of The McLaughlin Group of back in the 
> day. In the intervening years there have been sea changes in the 
> institutions of the federal government, the political parties, and 
> journalism, and bringing out fossils of those old days to yell at each 
> other does nobody a service.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[chialex]

A propos of nothing, but I don't see Cedar Fair giving up the parks it
gained in the Paramount Parks deal. But that's neither here nor there.


~D

-From: "Doug Fields" 
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday August 14 2019 7:26:55AM
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

   The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company
decided to split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a
solution to an internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever
the guy in charge of MTV was at the time, over who would replace
Sumner Redstone when he retired).  
   The original Viacom took the name "CBS Corporation" after the
split, with the rest of the company (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures,
etc) taking the name "Viacom" as a completely new entity. Now, with
this merger, they're putting the band back together, the way it was 15
years ago.  
   Doug Fields  Tampa, FL   

-
 FROM: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Doug Eastick 
 SENT: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:58 AM
 TO: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
 SUBJECT: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again Why did I
think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already? Were they
already "close" on many fronts? 

  On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M.,  wrote:
Here is the formal announcement   
   
[2]https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf
[3] 

  On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV  wrote:
All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says
will come this afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered
following big plunges Monday... 
  
[5]https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/
[6] (link)   
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Doug Fields, to Doug Eastick and Kevin M, in part today (8/14):
>
> The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company decided 
> to split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a solution to 
> an internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever the guy in 
> charge of MTV was at the time, over who would replace Sumner Redstone when 
> he retired).
>
>  
Tom Freston. Possibly better known today as chairman of anti-poverty 
charity ONE Campaign.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[Doug Fields]

The original Viacom owned CBS for several years, until the company decided to 
split in the mid-00s due to stock market strategy (and as a solution to an 
internal power struggle between Les Moonves and whoever the guy in charge of 
MTV was at the time, over who would replace Sumner Redstone when he retired).

The original Viacom took the name "CBS Corporation" after the split, with the 
rest of the company (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures, etc) taking the name 
"Viacom" as a completely new entity.  Now, with this merger, they're putting 
the band back together, the way it was 15 years ago.

Doug Fields
Tampa, FL


From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Doug 
Eastick 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:58 AM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

Why did I think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already?   Were 
they already "close" on many fronts?



On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M., 
mailto:drunkbastar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here is the formal announcement

https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf


On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says will come this 
afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered following big plunges 
Monday...

https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/ (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, Viacom together again

[Doug Eastick]

Why did I think that CBS had been owned by Viacom for years already?   Were
they already "close" on many fronts?



On Tue., Aug. 13, 2019, 2:28 p.m. Kevin M., 
wrote:

> Here is the formal announcement
>
>
> https://www.cbscorporation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ViacomCBS-Press-Release-FINAL.pdf
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> All that's left is the formal announcement, which Deadline says will come
>> this afternoon (8/13)... both firms' stock prices recovered following big
>> plunges Monday...
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2019/08/cbs-viacom-merger-deal-price-1202667116/
>> (link)
>>
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