Re: [TV orNotTV] Emerald City sports traffic jam

[PGage]

They solved it by playing a double header tonight…

On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 at 12:06 PM Brad Beam  wrote:

> Hearkening back to the days of dual-use stadia, Seattle has a possible
> problem on Sunday.
>
>
>
> Should the Mariners (currently down 1-0) make it to a Game 4 at home, the
> Seahawks game across the street will shift to a 5:30 ET kickoff. (First
> pitch is at 3:07.)
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[TV orNotTV] Semi-OT: Shameless self-promotion

[Kevin M.]

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[Pete Ahles]

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 3:40 PM PGage  wrote:

> I count 30 of 36 teams on the SNF schedule (counting the season opener on
> Thursday) who made the playoffs in 2021 (83%), vs  18 of 32 playoff teams
> (56%) on the Amazon TNF schedule.
>
>
>
That was my point. The Thursday games include all the teams. Not just the
playoff teams.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[PGage]

I’m not sure I agree with your police work there. Of course it’s not
possible to know for sure if a matchup will be good or bad in April, but
they can make some reasonable projections.


I count 30 of 36 teams on the SNF schedule (counting the season opener on
Thursday) who made the playoffs in 2021 (83%), vs  18 of 32 playoff teams
(56%) on the Amazon TNF schedule.


Every single SNF game feature at least one playoff team, 12 feature two
playoff teams, none feature no playoff teams. In contrast, TNF has only 6
scheduled games with two playoff teams, and 4 with neither team having been
in the playoffs. All of that of course before any flexing.


Moreover, SNF has what I will identify as the 4 most desirable teams
(Dallas Cowboys, Tampa Bay Brady’s, and the two Super Bowl Teams) a total
of 11 times in 18 games (61%) while TNF has them only 4 of 16 games (25%).


I suppose I would need to do some more to show that the TNF are worse than
the other Sunday day games, so I will modify my claim to say that Michaels
had to know he was going to get significantly worse games than he got on
SNF (Or MNF when he was at ABC, which got one of the two best games when Al
was there).

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 at 9:37 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The NFL schedule comes out in April and there’s no way to tell which teams
> will be good or which matchups will be compelling in mid-October. Thursday
> football has never been a good idea and maybe now coaches and players are
> adjusting to it. Michaels can’t lobby for better games because nobody knows
> what will be a good game when the schedule is drawn up.
>
> The Dan Snyder story is long and complicated, mostly because the league is
> controlled by the owners and they have no interest in institutionalizing
> forcing an owner to sell. ESPN has a really long article explaining the
> situation and it’s clear that no comment made during a game broadcast can
> influence a decision.
>
>
> https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34778123/washington-commanders-owner-dan-snyder-claims-dirt-nfl-owners-roger-goodell
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 8:14 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> No doubt I am overthinking it. But, while bad, I don’t think the games
>> have been any worse than they have been in recent years (indeed, while
>> inartful, they have at least been competitive), and are just what he should
>> have expected them to be.
>>
>> My hypothesis that he is lobbying to get better games assigned to Amazon
>> is an attempt to be charitable to him. If not, I see him less as honestly
>> telling it like it is, and more as a rich and entitled asshole who took a
>> lot of money to call bad games and then angle to get cheap ratings by
>> taking a public dump on the predictably bad teams whose games he had to
>> call.
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 at 2:42 AM JW  wrote:
>>
>>> > So why complain so much when he is only getting what he signed up for?
>>> It
>>> > makes me suspect Amazon wants him to in order to try to pressure the
>>> NFL to
>>> > give them better games next year.
>>>
>>> I suspect you're overthinking it. I'm sure Al knew that he'd be getting
>>> lesser matchups on Thursdays; what neither he nor viewers expected was
>>> games as awful as the last two Thursday nights. And Michaels has reached
>>> the point where he can "tell it like it is" (to cite one of his former
>>> colleagues) and call bad football bad football.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[Tom Wolper]

Sunday night games can be flexed. Monday games go to a much larger audience
than Thursday, which is Amazon Prime and NFL+ (on mobile devices) only.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 1:10 PM Pete Ahles  wrote:

> Sunday night and Monday night games are picked by the schedulers to
> showcase the better teams.
> The league has mandated that every team gets a Thursday game.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[Pete Ahles]

Sunday night and Monday night games are picked by the schedulers to
showcase the better teams.
The league has mandated that every team gets a Thursday game.

Pete

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Re: [TV orNotTV] To Explain Those Promos on Colbert This Week...

[Diner]

Yes, except that I doubt we're going to see Emma Watson or Aisha Tyler 
going into the dunk tank like Lynda Carter or Catherine Bach did.

(Although frankly that would be the only way they would to get me to watch.)

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:54:25 PM UTC-4 eas...@eastick.ca wrote:

> This reminds me of Battle of the Network Stars 
>
>
>
> /Doug 
> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 1:29 p.m. Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> I remember when November sweeps meant exciting programming.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 1:19 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>>
>>> Colbert is hosting "Pickled," a celebrity pickleball tournament to air 
>>> on CBS in prime time Thurs. Nov. 17.  He'll sing the national anthem with 
>>> Kenny Loggins and preside over the events to be played as a benefit for 
>>> Comic Relief US. Among the contestants are Will Ferrell, Aisha Tyler, Emma 
>>> Watson, Tig Notaro, Phil Keoghan and Sugar Ray Leonard, and CBS Sports' 
>>> Cari Champion and Bill Raftery will call the action, along with John 
>>> MIchael Higgins, who better not be repeating any of his lines from 
>>> "Licorice Pizza":
>>>
>>>
>>> https://theblendnow.com/cbs-announces-16-celebrities-competing-on-sports-special-pickled/
>>>
>>> Funny or Die is doing the actual production, with Evie listed as an 
>>> executive producer along with her husband.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[Tom Wolper]

The NFL schedule comes out in April and there’s no way to tell which teams
will be good or which matchups will be compelling in mid-October. Thursday
football has never been a good idea and maybe now coaches and players are
adjusting to it. Michaels can’t lobby for better games because nobody knows
what will be a good game when the schedule is drawn up.

The Dan Snyder story is long and complicated, mostly because the league is
controlled by the owners and they have no interest in institutionalizing
forcing an owner to sell. ESPN has a really long article explaining the
situation and it’s clear that no comment made during a game broadcast can
influence a decision.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34778123/washington-commanders-owner-dan-snyder-claims-dirt-nfl-owners-roger-goodell


On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 8:14 AM PGage  wrote:

> No doubt I am overthinking it. But, while bad, I don’t think the games
> have been any worse than they have been in recent years (indeed, while
> inartful, they have at least been competitive), and are just what he should
> have expected them to be.
>
> My hypothesis that he is lobbying to get better games assigned to Amazon
> is an attempt to be charitable to him. If not, I see him less as honestly
> telling it like it is, and more as a rich and entitled asshole who took a
> lot of money to call bad games and then angle to get cheap ratings by
> taking a public dump on the predictably bad teams whose games he had to
> call.
>
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 at 2:42 AM JW  wrote:
>
>> > So why complain so much when he is only getting what he signed up for?
>> It
>> > makes me suspect Amazon wants him to in order to try to pressure the
>> NFL to
>> > give them better games next year.
>>
>> I suspect you're overthinking it. I'm sure Al knew that he'd be getting
>> lesser matchups on Thursdays; what neither he nor viewers expected was
>> games as awful as the last two Thursday nights. And Michaels has reached
>> the point where he can "tell it like it is" (to cite one of his former
>> colleagues) and call bad football bad football.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] To Explain Those Promos on Colbert This Week...

[Tom Wolper]

As a teenager in the era of three networks, I knew who all the TV stars
were, even if I never watched the shows. I’d go through the TV Guide and
the TV column in the newspaper and I’d watch the Mike Douglas Show after
school. When a show like Battle of the Network Stars came on I’d know who
the contestants were even if I hadn’t seen the shows. Now I have no idea
who the stars are unless I am watching their show. It’s a problem watching
them on late night talk shows and it’s certainly a deterrent to watching
them on prime time stunt shows.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 11:14 PM PGage  wrote:

> Me too.
>
> I was remembering that back in the day I watched Superstars, and Celebrity
> Bowling, and BotNS, and Match Game. But that was when the number of viewing
> options was very limited, and even as a kid I would shake my head at the
> thought of what I was watching. This deep into the 21st century I have way
> too many options to watch anything like this.
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 at 7:54 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of Battle of the Network Stars
>>
>>
>>
>> /Doug
>> east...@mcd.on.ca
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 1:29 p.m. Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> I remember when November sweeps meant exciting programming.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 1:19 PM Mark Jeffries 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Colbert is hosting "Pickled," a celebrity pickleball tournament to air
 on CBS in prime time Thurs. Nov. 17.  He'll sing the national anthem with
 Kenny Loggins and preside over the events to be played as a benefit for
 Comic Relief US. Among the contestants are Will Ferrell, Aisha Tyler, Emma
 Watson, Tig Notaro, Phil Keoghan and Sugar Ray Leonard, and CBS Sports'
 Cari Champion and Bill Raftery will call the action, along with John
 MIchael Higgins, who better not be repeating any of his lines from
 "Licorice Pizza":


 https://theblendnow.com/cbs-announces-16-celebrities-competing-on-sports-special-pickled/

 Funny or Die is doing the actual production, with Evie listed as an
 executive producer along with her husband.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[PGage]

No doubt I am overthinking it. But, while bad, I don’t think the games have
been any worse than they have been in recent years (indeed, while inartful,
they have at least been competitive), and are just what he should have
expected them to be.

My hypothesis that he is lobbying to get better games assigned to Amazon is
an attempt to be charitable to him. If not, I see him less as honestly
telling it like it is, and more as a rich and entitled asshole who took a
lot of money to call bad games and then angle to get cheap ratings by
taking a public dump on the predictably bad teams whose games he had to
call.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 at 2:42 AM JW  wrote:

> > So why complain so much when he is only getting what he signed up for? It
> > makes me suspect Amazon wants him to in order to try to pressure the NFL
> to
> > give them better games next year.
>
> I suspect you're overthinking it. I'm sure Al knew that he'd be getting
> lesser matchups on Thursdays; what neither he nor viewers expected was
> games as awful as the last two Thursday nights. And Michaels has reached
> the point where he can "tell it like it is" (to cite one of his former
> colleagues) and call bad football bad football.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Is Bad Football Breaking Al Michaels?

[JW]

 > So why complain so much when he is only getting what he signed up for? It
> makes me suspect Amazon wants him to in order to try to pressure the NFL
to
> give them better games next year.

I suspect you're overthinking it. I'm sure Al knew that he'd be getting
lesser matchups on Thursdays; what neither he nor viewers expected was
games as awful as the last two Thursday nights. And Michaels has reached
the point where he can "tell it like it is" (to cite one of his former
colleagues) and call bad football bad football.

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