Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight

[Jim Ellwanger]

One of the talking heads on the show is a friend of mine (Adam Nedeff, who has written some weighty, well-researched biographies about game show hosts) - the fact that he was interviewed is a good indication that it’s a somewhat serious documentary series.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 4, 2023, at 8:14 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:Program note: ABC will begin airing a four-part documentary (“The Game Show Show”) on Wednesday night.https://www.thewrap.com/abc-news-studios-the-game-show-show-exclusive/ From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin M.Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 20:30To: tvornottv@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight I got to know backstage crew who worked on a lot of the shows. Drinking did occur on some of them, as well as drugs, but they sometimes taped five or more episodes a day, so regardless of day of the week, they couldn’t all get hammered or they’d have never gotten through it. And it goes without saying that Dick Clark ran sober game show studios. Well, sober-ish.  One day, the crew from The Gong Show needs to co-author the definitive tell-all behind-the-scenes book. From even the tiny fraction of the stories I heard, it’s more bizarre than any account I’ve seen shared publicly so far. Dressing rooms exploding. Naked people in the lighting grid. Wild stories about what went on in the men’s room.  On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 5:16 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:I have rewatched some of the old match game shows, and I agree with that. /Doug east...@mcd.on.ca On Thu, May 4, 2023, 3:15 p.m. 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV  wrote:I've heard stories that this was commonplace in the 70s, particularly with Match Game. David On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV  wrote:   I'll bet that started while Whoopi was still producing...     BSteve Timko, May 2nd:Game show panelists were often drunk for Thursday and Friday shows. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRw5rX83/  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1868418011.2284992.1683227695610%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAK5Q1Bo%2BQ%3Df0pbyXwwGLh%2BQXT1S7mumG%3DWzK9_J1cWWLqqs%3D8g%40mail.gmail.com.-- Kevin M. (RPCV)-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CEff4gmZCTJ331iKMztvbEWqpuqagv80obD8X%2BPQQV8g%40mail.gmail.com.



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[TV orNotTV] Brief review: American Manhunt: The Boston Marathon Bombing

[Steve Timko]

I recommend “American Manhunt: The Boston Marathon Bombing” on Netflix.
There is fantastic video of the event and the 100 hours following as they
track down the bombers. There was a lot about the case I didn’t know,
including heroic actions by police and other first responders as well as
inept police work.
But it almost lost me at the start. It is severely overproduced. The
dramatic bombing video has lots of drama yet they use a manipulative,
over-the-top score and too much fancy editing. I would have preferred a
touch like PBS's “Frontline” and “Nova.”
Lots of twists and turns until they track down the brothers. Check it out.

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight

[Brad Beam]

Program note: ABC will begin airing a four-part documentary (“The Game Show 
Show”) on Wednesday night.
https://www.thewrap.com/abc-news-studios-the-game-show-show-exclusive/
 
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin M.
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 20:30
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight
 
I got to know backstage crew who worked on a lot of the shows. Drinking did 
occur on some of them, as well as drugs, but they sometimes taped five or more 
episodes a day, so regardless of day of the week, they couldn’t all get 
hammered or they’d have never gotten through it. And it goes without saying 
that Dick Clark ran sober game show studios. Well, sober-ish. 
 
One day, the crew from The Gong Show needs to co-author the definitive tell-all 
behind-the-scenes book. From even the tiny fraction of the stories I heard, 
it’s more bizarre than any account I’ve seen shared publicly so far. Dressing 
rooms exploding. Naked people in the lighting grid. Wild stories about what 
went on in the men’s room. 
 
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 5:16 PM Doug Eastick mailto:east...@eastick.ca> > wrote:
I have rewatched some of the old match game shows, and I agree with that.
 
/Doug 
east...@mcd.on.ca  
 
On Thu, May 4, 2023, 3:15 p.m. 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com> > wrote:
I've heard stories that this was commonplace in the 70s, particularly with 
Match Game.
 
David
 
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 
 
 
I'll bet that started while Whoopi was still producing... B
Steve Timko, May 2nd:
Game show panelists were often drunk for Thursday and Friday shows.
 
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRw5rX83/ 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight

[Kevin M.]

I got to know backstage crew who worked on a lot of the shows. Drinking did
occur on some of them, as well as drugs, but they sometimes taped five or
more episodes a day, so regardless of day of the week, they couldn’t all
get hammered or they’d have never gotten through it. And it goes
without saying that Dick Clark ran sober game show studios. Well,
sober-ish.

One day, the crew from The Gong Show needs to co-author the definitive
tell-all behind-the-scenes book. From even the tiny fraction of the stories
I heard, it’s more bizarre than any account I’ve seen shared publicly so
far. Dressing rooms exploding. Naked people in the lighting grid. Wild
stories about what went on in the men’s room.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 5:16 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> I have rewatched some of the old match game shows, and I agree with that.
>
> /Doug
> east...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023, 3:15 p.m. 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I've heard stories that this was commonplace in the 70s, particularly
>> with Match Game.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'll bet that started while Whoopi was still producing... B
>>
>> Steve Timko, May 2nd:
>>
>> Game show panelists were often drunk for Thursday and Friday shows.
>>
>> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRw5rX83/
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight

[Doug Eastick]

I have rewatched some of the old match game shows, and I agree with that.

/Doug
east...@mcd.on.ca

On Thu, May 4, 2023, 3:15 p.m. 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I've heard stories that this was commonplace in the 70s, particularly with
> Match Game.
>
> David
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'll bet that started while Whoopi was still producing... B
>
> Steve Timko, May 2nd:
>
> Game show panelists were often drunk for Thursday and Friday shows.
>
> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRw5rX83/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Best way to stream “Jeopardy!”?

[Kevin M.]

So, the only legal non cable/dish option available is YouTubeTV… so now I’m
paying $70 a month so my mother in law can watch 30 minutes of programming
a day.

This week, I’ve learned that Blossom is doing a Jack Webb impersonation
when she hosts the show. Not sure why she does that. My mother in law
prefers watching it with the subtitles on rather than hear her voice. I do
not blame her.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:07 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The times my OTA DVR has failed, I’ve gone to YouTube first, doing a
> search for Jeopardy and the date. The people who post shows corrupt the
> files in some minor way to get around the automated IP checks. In the small
> number of times I had to do it the quality has been hit or miss, with
> problems like missing chunks.
>
> If that fails I download a copy from a torrent site (not the Pirate Bay).
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:00 PM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>> For the regular weeknight syndicated version, the only way to officially
>> do it is to get a streaming service that includes local channels. (People
>> do unofficially post episodes to YouTube, but those may be of dubious
>> quality and will be taken down as soon as Sony finds them.)
>>
>> For the tournaments that air in ABC prime-time, those are available on
>> Hulu the next day.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 7:53 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>> This is about to become an issue in the house. I’m open to
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Suns Return to OTA TV in AZ, Will Other Teams Follow?

[Brad Beam]

Meanwhile, the Vegas Golden Knights will be shifting to a soon-to-be 
independent Scripps station, with Ion affiliates throughout the Rockies 
filling in for AT SportsNet.
https://www.ktnv.com/news/golden-knights/vegas-golden-knights-scripps-sports-announce-historic-broadcast-partnership
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 12:42:16 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Bt Diamond, the holding entity for the Bally nets, also plans to 
> complain in bankruptcy court that Gray is breakin' the law...
>
> https://www.nexttv.com/news/bally-parent-diamond-sports-says-suns-breached-contract-with-gray-deal
>  (link)
> I wondered where Broadcasting & Cable was... remember seeing their 
> Yearbook, a directory of the industries, in public libraries?
> B 
>
> Mark Jeffries, April 28th:
>
> Starting next season, the NBA Phoenix Suns and WNBA Mercury will leave 
> Sinclair's bankrupt Bally Sports Arizona for Gray Broadcasting's indie KTVK 
> and new LPTV KPHE (branded with CBS affil KPHO as "Arizona's Family") for a 
> deal that will have both teams' games not airing nationally on ABC, ESPN or 
> TNT airing on the two stations (KPHE may be low-power, but will eventually 
> have translators all over the state)--KTVK dropped Fox in the mid-90s and 
> never looked back with its successful mix of sports, news and "Jeopardy!" 
> and "Wheel of Fortune" running in the first hour of prime time at 7 p.m.:
>
>
> https://www.nexttv.com/news/phoenix-suns-fastbreak-to-broadcast-with-gray-from-bankrupt-bally-rsn?utm_source=substack_medium=email
>
> As the MLB teams are seeing the Bally regional channels default on 
> payments, there could be a lot of sports teams returning to OTA in the next 
> year.
>
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[TV orNotTV] Drew Barrymore withdraws from hosting next MTV Movie/TV Awards

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

In support of striking writers, also the reason there'll be no replacement 
nor red carpet nor talent interviews...
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/drew-barrymore-mtv-movie-tv-awards-writers-strike-1235603357/
 (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Shatner to feature in "Stars on Mars"

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

And here's your cast, led by disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong and 
entertainer Tinashe, also including NFL great Richard Sherman, "Modern 
Family" fave Ariel Winter, and the reason sports-talk radio host Andrew 
Perloff is also called McLovin, Christopher Mintz-Plasse...
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/stars-on-mars-fox-cast-lance-armstrong-1235603692/
 (link)
B

Moi, April 13th:

Headed for Fox from a Fremantle division, the celebrity competition plays 
out in a space-station environment designed to resemble conditions on the 
Red Planet... the "Trek" legend will be at "Mission Control," outside said 
environment apparently... débuts June 5th.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/william-shatner-fox-stars-on-mars-celebrity-reality-show-1235373067/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 I've heard stories that this was commonplace in the 70s, particularly with 
Match Game.
David

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:  
 
 I'll bet that started while Whoopi was still producing...     B

Steve Timko, May 2nd:

Game show panelists were often drunk for Thursday and Friday shows.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRw5rX83/ 

  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Interesting game show insight

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

I'll bet that started while Whoopi was still producing... B

Steve Timko, May 2nd:

Game show panelists were often drunk for Thursday and Friday shows.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRw5rX83/ 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Trump Gets Free Airtime on CNN Next Wed.

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

He was likely overruled on that matter by his writing staff long ago, and 
he's waiting for the inevitable, how-be-it unconstitutional, intervention 
by a re-elected FP promising retribution for defamation... against all of 
LN, not just Steve...
B

Mark Jeffries, May 2nd, in part:

And speaking of Colbert--Stephen, stop with the "T" and "former 
President" crap.  Trump is not going away any time soon and he may just win 
again in 2024.  I hate it as much as you do, but deal with it.  But don't 
bother with the impersonation--Meyers' Trump impersonation was always 
better.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Jim Ellwanger]

It's a Hilton next to the 405, actually (formerly a Doubletree, and before that 
it was a Radisson). "Jeopardy!" also holds local contestant tryouts there on 
occasion. They don't validate parking for potential contestants (valet-only, 
and the nearest street parking is some distance away), but at my most recent 
tryout in 2022, at least I got some extra Hilton Honors points by paying for it 
with my Hilton AMEX card.


> On May 4, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> It should be pointed out that U.S. game shows, with a few exceptions, do not 
> pay to fly in or put up contestants for a LA or New York recording. The best 
> "Jeopardy!" contestants get is a discount at the Marriott near the Sony lot 
> and the hotel's airport limo taking them over to the Trebek Stage and back.
> 
> And it is interesting that "The Wall" in the U.S. is still going without 
> audiences, but instead of the hack sweetener Christian Shrader, they've 
> called upon Sonofans, the "immersive crowd performance sound system" company 
> that provided crowd noise for sports teams and Fox Sports during the 
> pandemic.  This article from a sound trade mag explains what they do, which 
> they swear up-and-down is not "canned," even though everyone else says it is:
> 
> https://www.sonofans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/LS2101_Sonofans-Final.pdf
> 
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com 
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:50 AM Adam Bowie  > wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are still 
>>> being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if they 
>>> have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel, since 
>>> there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want to be 
>>> contestants).
>> 
>> It's surely just a money thing. 
>> 
>> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions - 
>> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I 
>> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just 
>> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place 
>> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some 
>> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say, 
>> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than 
>> big enough to make sense.
>> 
>> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the US. 
>> In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing double-duty 
>> for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the primetime "celebrity" 
>> version in the UK with a different presenter doing the daytime one. And from 
>> what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now been cancelled. Again, 
>> while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they tend to be for dramas and 
>> children's shows, not game shows.
>> 
>> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really 
>> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina 
>> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot 
>> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I remember 
>> once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company promoting their  
>> upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people would never have 
>> been able to produce a series like that on their own.
>> 
>> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set 
>> in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter 
>> there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people 
>> who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any 
>> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
>> 
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Mark Jeffries]

It should be pointed out that U.S. game shows, with a few exceptions, do
not pay to fly in or put up contestants for a LA or New York recording. The
best "Jeopardy!" contestants get is a discount at the Marriott near the
Sony lot and the hotel's airport limo taking them over to the Trebek Stage
and back.

And it is interesting that "The Wall" in the U.S. is still going without
audiences, but instead of the hack sweetener Christian Shrader, they've
called upon Sonofans, the "immersive crowd performance sound system"
company that provided crowd noise for sports teams and Fox Sports during
the pandemic.  This article from a sound trade mag explains what they do,
which they swear up-and-down is not "canned," even though everyone else
says it is:

https://www.sonofans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/LS2101_Sonofans-Final.pdf

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:50 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are
>> still being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if
>> they have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel,
>> since there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want
>> to be contestants).
>>
>
> It's surely just a money thing.
>
> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions -
> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I
> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just
> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place
> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some
> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say,
> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than
> big enough to make sense.
>
> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the
> US. In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing
> double-duty for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the
> primetime "celebrity" version in the UK with a different presenter doing
> the daytime one. And from what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now
> been cancelled. Again, while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they
> tend to be for dramas and children's shows, not game shows.
>
> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really
> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina
> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot
> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I
> remember once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company
> promoting their  upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people
> would never have been able to produce a series like that on their own.
>
> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set
> in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter
> there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people
> who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any
> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
>
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Kevin M.]

For a while at least, the Ninja Warrior and Total Wipeout shows were not
being filmed in the US due to insurance/liability issues, but I think they
worked that out

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:26 AM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> Wasn't another reason for starting these expatriate productions so that
> they could get full audiences of people not wearing masks? U.S. audiences
> (at least in the Los Angeles area) were being required to wear masks until
> recently, due to the unions' Covid safety agreements with the studios.
>
>
> On May 4, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are
>> still being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if
>> they have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel,
>> since there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want
>> to be contestants).
>>
>
> It's surely just a money thing.
>
> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions -
> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I
> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just
> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place
> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some
> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say,
> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than
> big enough to make sense.
>
> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the
> US. In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing
> double-duty for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the
> primetime "celebrity" version in the UK with a different presenter doing
> the daytime one. And from what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now
> been cancelled. Again, while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they
> tend to be for dramas and children's shows, not game shows.
>
> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really
> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina
> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot
> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I
> remember once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company
> promoting their  upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people
> would never have been able to produce a series like that on their own.
>
> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set
> in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter
> there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people
> who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any
> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
>
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Jim Ellwanger]

Wasn't another reason for starting these expatriate productions so that they 
could get full audiences of people not wearing masks? U.S. audiences (at least 
in the Los Angeles area) were being required to wear masks until recently, due 
to the unions' Covid safety agreements with the studios.


> On May 4, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries  > wrote:
>> 
>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are still 
>> being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if they have 
>> to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel, since there 
>> aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want to be 
>> contestants).
> 
> It's surely just a money thing. 
> 
> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions - 
> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I 
> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just 
> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place 
> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some 
> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say, 
> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than 
> big enough to make sense.
> 
> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the US. 
> In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing double-duty 
> for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the primetime "celebrity" 
> version in the UK with a different presenter doing the daytime one. And from 
> what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now been cancelled. Again, 
> while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they tend to be for dramas and 
> children's shows, not game shows.
> 
> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really 
> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina 
> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot 
> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I remember 
> once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company promoting their  
> upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people would never have been 
> able to produce a series like that on their own.
> 
> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set in 
> Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter there. I 
> was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people who 
> understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any 
> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
>  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Adam Bowie]

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

>
> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are
> still being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if
> they have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel,
> since there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want
> to be contestants).
>

It's surely just a money thing.

While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions -
32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I
can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just
bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place
makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some
accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say,
Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than
big enough to make sense.

See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the
US. In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing
double-duty for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the
primetime "celebrity" version in the UK with a different presenter doing
the daytime one. And from what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now
been cancelled. Again, while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they
tend to be for dramas and children's shows, not game shows.

These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really
elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina
that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot
episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I
remember once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company
promoting their  upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people
would never have been able to produce a series like that on their own.

Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set
in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter
there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people
who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any
interest whatsoever in proceedings...


Adam

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[TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Mark Jeffries]

Jamie Foxx has been in an undisclosed hospital for undisclosed reasons 
since Apr. 12, while he was making a film for Netflix in Atlanta--since it 
seems as though his Fox game show "Beat Shazam" was shooting for its annual 
summer run in Ireland, NIck Cannon will fill in for him for this year's run 
starting May 23 (and the studio in Ireland will then house Niecy Nash and 
the second season of the reboot of "Don't Forget the Lyrics!", which will 
also premiere on May 23):

https://www.thewrap.com/jamie-foxx-hospitalized-instagram-post/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=breaking_news_7258830

For the record, Foxx's daughter Corrine will not be acting as sidekick and 
"DJ" this season, with Kelly Osbourne taking her place, so Nick Cannon 
procreation jokes will be welcome.

And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are still 
being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if they 
have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel, since 
there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want to be 
contestants).

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Comisar Collection Auction

[Diner]

It's amazing, isn't it? I'd listened to Comisar's interview on The Carson 
Podcast a while back, so I knew he had quite a collection, but I hadn't 
realized it was this good and this diverse. I mean, it's one thing to have 
Johnny's desk, but to have Doc's music stand too? And a set of doors from 
The Price Is Right, and a set of doors from Jeopardy? And Bob Crane's 
leather jacket from Hogan's Heroes, and Linda Kaye Henning's wedding dress 
from Petticoat Junction, and Jim Rockford's business cards? And the 
orchestrations from when Steve Martin sang "King Tut" on SNL, orchestrated 
by... Tommy Newsom?? And all that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Though probably my favorite item is "A Group of Prop Human Remains Evidence 
from Law & Order: Special Victims Unit."

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:09:37 AM UTC-4 Adam Bowie wrote:

> I don't know if anyone here has found some spare cash down the back of the 
> sofa recently, but there's an extraordinary auction of TV memorabilia 
> happening including things like Letterman and Carson desk sets as well as 
> the Cheers bar! And much much more...
>
>
> https://entertainment.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=7318=hero-comisarCollection-AuctionHome-7318-050123
>
>
>
>
> Adam
>

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[TV orNotTV] Comisar Collection Auction

[Adam Bowie]

I don't know if anyone here has found some spare cash down the back of the
sofa recently, but there's an extraordinary auction of TV memorabilia
happening including things like Letterman and Carson desk sets as well as
the Cheers bar! And much much more...

https://entertainment.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=7318=hero-comisarCollection-AuctionHome-7318-050123




Adam

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