Re: [TV orNotTV] WGA and AMPTP reach settlement… to be voted on on Tuesday

[PGage]

We will have to wait and see the details,  But the Variety story seems to
assume that the WGA has been successful in getting minimum guaranteed staff
levels and a significant formula for providing streaming residuals. Union
rhetoric during the strike suggests that they would not set up without some
progress towards a deal on AI. If this is the case, it will be a major
accomplishment, and would set the stage for similar gains for the Actors.

 Of course, it will almost certainly be true that in ten or five or even
three years it will become clear that one side, or the other agreed to
terms which new developments have rendered not in their interest. Humans
have difficulty predicting the future, or even recognizing the implications
of the present. Even so, the perfect does not have to be the enemy of the
good, or even the better-than-nothing.

We are in a season of labor resurgence. A year ago today I was on strike
for a month and would be for another month more, and we made progress
partly when governor Newsom threatened to attend one of the negotiation
meetings and take a heavy hand with the employer if he did not see
Reasonable movement, which is part of what happened here with WGA. The
result was very, very, very far from perfect. But it did allow us to move
forward and provide a mechanism for things to get better. It also
demonstrated to management and to ourselves that we had a power that we
previously had not really believed in.

A Strike is the labor equivalent of war, and, and in its on the way it is
hell. Believe me the struggle, the uncertainty, and the anxiety is real. It
is an option of last resort. I hope that enough unions will be successful
during this period that corporations will acknowledge that their employees
are one of the stakeholders that must share substantially in the
corporation’s economic success, and not just top-tier executives and
shareholders.


Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 at 7:49 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Specifics haven’t yet been made public, but both sides are patting
> themselves on the back, so it’s probably another deal that will unravel in
> a few years after the next big tech breakthrough occurs.
>
>
> https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/writers-strike-ends-wga-amptp-deal-2-1235733452/
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CSMqXFiUKuSwRcJGwQoJ8t%2Bn%3DGoofOJd%2BDvzn9pRBrxg%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BuiXkQm%2B%3DvC33Tp_5g%3DdvdjR6jOGQLtPB4%3DWW%3DtJHDHQ%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] I listened to a Chevy Chase podcast interview so you don't have to

[PGage]

Hard to imagine how such a thing could go well, short of Mr. Chase
announcing that he had recently realized he had been an insufferable
asshole for most of his adult life, and was sorry.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 at 7:13 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Chevy Chase is on Marc Maron's WTF Podcast Monday and it sounds like it
> did go well.
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 3:08 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> I listened to the "Fly on the Wall" podcast with Al Franken and it was
>> good. I'd say SNL fans should listen to it.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 2:26 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> This sounds sad all around. The hosts need to make guests look good in
>>> this format. I will assume the finished episode is already edited down so
>>> this was the best they could get from Chase. They could have released a 20
>>> minute episode saying Chase wasn’t up to more or just decided not to
>>> release it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:42 PM Steve Timko 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I listened to Chevy Chase on the Dana Carvey and David Space “Fly On
 The Wall” podcast so you didn’t have to.
 It went pretty much how you would guess it went. The “news” from the
 podcast is that Chase had a heart attack early last year and suffered
 memory loss. This came up when Chase tried to recall a Richard Pryor
 anecdote, then conceded he couldn’t remember it. His wife explained the
 medical event from off the microphone, maybe on the other side of the room.
 Other than that, for 51 minutes or so, Chase had nothing to say. Carvey
 forced his laughs and that got annoying. Chase asked how Phil Hartman died,
 then remembered a minute or two later. He cracked a joke about Gilda Radner
 dying, but it fell flat. No discussion of “Community.” He kept saying Bill
 Murray killed someone, but it wasn’t clear if it was another bad joke or if
 he has enmity for Murray.
 They were trying to wrap up the interview and Chase kept pushing it
 forward.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
 an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To view this discussion on the web visit
 https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yzJruBE6D3vG95zwY%3D1S216f1enXus%2Bq4GtfNQaywN8kA%40mail.gmail.com
 
 .

>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEBQWq1HOJa9rKV3tosatqSq1ch-etRburk0rEQT99FUw%40mail.gmail.com
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yw1JtJjbXF3yuha4G8bk0yJ6bDQ%2BvEN_zOyuESgMd-6XA%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJyMOq3FBNbsCGAv0OOKPNjckvsP4JQX_%3DRidK24V4ejQ%40mail.gmail.com.

[TV orNotTV] Golden Globes voters removed for being Golden Globes voters

[Kevin M.]

In other news, water is wet

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/golden-globe-voters-expelled-violating-code-conduct-1235597889/amp/

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CDmp4DdzXZKSf2THqwdBuCQz_v%2ByYx-cjQ0FwCFzU4Cw%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] WGA and AMPTP reach settlement… to be voted on on Tuesday

[Jim Ellwanger]

Potential talk show guests (i.e., the kind of people Drew Barrymore had on that 
week of shows she taped): news personalities, reality show personalities, 
YouTube influencers, authors, musicians.


> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:28 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Obviously SAG-AFTRA would still need to reach an agreement with AMPTP for 
> much of anything to resume on television.  Certainly some pre-production 
> could resume, but the late night shows would still need guests, unless they 
> want to go all-in on the comedy bits.  (Personally I'd love this, but 
> wouldn't expect it to happen in a million years.)
> 
> In other words, I don't expect the new normal, whatever it is, to resume 
> *that* quickly.
> 
> David
> 
> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 07:49:06 PM PDT, Kevin M. 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Specifics haven’t yet been made public, but both sides are patting themselves 
> on the back, so it’s probably another deal that will unravel in a few years 
> after the next big tech breakthrough occurs. 
> 
> https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/writers-strike-ends-wga-amptp-deal-2-1235733452/
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1500497922.3362357.1695612500980%40mail.yahoo.com
>  
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/9EBF1B23-3809-4CC1-B9B1-DC56F9710DEB%40ellwanger.tv.

Re: [TV orNotTV] WGA and AMPTP reach settlement… to be voted on on Tuesday

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Obviously SAG-AFTRA would still need to reach an agreement with AMPTP for much 
of anything to resume on television.  Certainly some pre-production could 
resume, but the late night shows would still need guests, unless they want to 
go all-in on the comedy bits.  (Personally I'd love this, but wouldn't expect 
it to happen in a million years.)
In other words, I don't expect the new normal, whatever it is, to resume *that* 
quickly.
David

On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 07:49:06 PM PDT, Kevin M. 
 wrote:  
 
 Specifics haven’t yet been made public, but both sides are patting themselves 
on the back, so it’s probably another deal that will unravel in a few years 
after the next big tech breakthrough occurs. 
https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/writers-strike-ends-wga-amptp-deal-2-1235733452/
  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1500497922.3362357.1695612500980%40mail.yahoo.com.

[TV orNotTV] WGA and AMPTP reach settlement… to be voted on on Tuesday

[Kevin M.]

Specifics haven’t yet been made public, but both sides are patting
themselves on the back, so it’s probably another deal that will unravel in
a few years after the next big tech breakthrough occurs.

https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/writers-strike-ends-wga-amptp-deal-2-1235733452/

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CSMqXFiUKuSwRcJGwQoJ8t%2Bn%3DGoofOJd%2BDvzn9pRBrxg%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] I listened to a Chevy Chase podcast interview so you don't have to

[Steve Timko]

Chevy Chase is on Marc Maron's WTF Podcast Monday and it sounds like it did
go well.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 3:08 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> I listened to the "Fly on the Wall" podcast with Al Franken and it was
> good. I'd say SNL fans should listen to it.
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 2:26 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> This sounds sad all around. The hosts need to make guests look good in
>> this format. I will assume the finished episode is already edited down so
>> this was the best they could get from Chase. They could have released a 20
>> minute episode saying Chase wasn’t up to more or just decided not to
>> release it.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:42 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> I listened to Chevy Chase on the Dana Carvey and David Space “Fly On The
>>> Wall” podcast so you didn’t have to.
>>> It went pretty much how you would guess it went. The “news” from the
>>> podcast is that Chase had a heart attack early last year and suffered
>>> memory loss. This came up when Chase tried to recall a Richard Pryor
>>> anecdote, then conceded he couldn’t remember it. His wife explained the
>>> medical event from off the microphone, maybe on the other side of the room.
>>> Other than that, for 51 minutes or so, Chase had nothing to say. Carvey
>>> forced his laughs and that got annoying. Chase asked how Phil Hartman died,
>>> then remembered a minute or two later. He cracked a joke about Gilda Radner
>>> dying, but it fell flat. No discussion of “Community.” He kept saying Bill
>>> Murray killed someone, but it wasn’t clear if it was another bad joke or if
>>> he has enmity for Murray.
>>> They were trying to wrap up the interview and Chase kept pushing it
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yzJruBE6D3vG95zwY%3D1S216f1enXus%2Bq4GtfNQaywN8kA%40mail.gmail.com
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEBQWq1HOJa9rKV3tosatqSq1ch-etRburk0rEQT99FUw%40mail.gmail.com
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yw1JtJjbXF3yuha4G8bk0yJ6bDQ%2BvEN_zOyuESgMd-6XA%40mail.gmail.com.

[TV orNotTV] "This is the craziest s--t I EVER watched on tv"

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

So said Grenadian X poster Mougabé 
 (link) yesterday 
after seeing "Naked Attraction," the 10-season veteran of UK Channel Four's 
late-night lineup once referenced by our own Adam Bowie 
 (link) 
inside a thread about the "Great British Bake-Off/Baking Show" moving to 
Four back in 2016, which is now being rolled out elsewhere... including to 
Max, who's sprung for six seasons (didn't say which ones) of the show Ofcom 
amazingly cleared because, in the end, there's no onscreen, *ahem*, 
activity...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/naked-attraction-nude-dating-show-max-1235597729/
 (link)
B 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/371898d5-a3c3-4a1a-a6d3-a49d8422bcaen%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon Prime Going to Ads

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Peacock doesn't allow FFing breaks unless with some archived programs, but 
I've only tried it with Dan Patrick.
I hope the Zon uses some of this increased revenue to improve the supposed 
audio issues with Thursday Night Football...
B

Mark Jeffries, eventually to his OP, Sept 23rd:

Since I first posted this, I've seen that Amazon says that the ads will 
come before the actual program starts (and I assume you can't fast forward 
them).

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/f6f01a82-39cb-486c-a065-ac96ef9b8504n%40googlegroups.com.