Re: [TV orNotTV] Kaleidoscope

2023-01-16 Thread Adam Bowie 
Ha ha. Yeah. A mandated evacuation and yet somehow characters could waltz
around New York with ease. The streets weren't clogged/flooded/whatever.
Anyone could go anywhere...

On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 1:11 PM Dave Sikula  wrote:

> I totally agree with you about the rain, but the thing that kept my
> disbelief unsuspended was that no one lost power during the storm.
>
> — Dave Sikula
>
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 16, 2023, at 5:08 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
> 
> I thought it was fine. But only really fine.
>
> The trouble is that I don't think the structure works. Theoretically you
> can watch the episodes in any order, with only the final episode being
> necessarily watched last.
>
> I watched them in the order that Netflix served them up, and frankly I
> don't think it worked. In TV today, flashbacks can mean some very
> lazy writing, but I think I'd have preferred a linear narrative with
> occasional flashbacks to this. Characters kept needing to be reintroduced
> or would just be missing. In particular, the episode set six months later
> really spoiled the final episode. I didn't get a sense of satisfaction that
> you usually take from a heist movie.
>
> The whole hurricane element seemed a bit contrived too. Suddenly they can
> break in utilising an unplannable phenomenon? What's more, the VFX budget
> ran out at that point and it just looked like a wet Wednesday in New York
> rather than storm of the century. The movie Hard Rain did the
> heist-during-a-storm thing much better.
>
> I still watched it all the way through, but then I'll always watch Rufus
> Sewell. And in general I liked the cast.
>
> But the whole thing could have been two episodes shorter and told in a
> regular format.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 12:17 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone else in on this one? The wife and I finished it tonight and mostly
>> liked it, though it did strike me that, minus the "Choose Your Own
>> Adventure" gimmickry, it seemed like, if watched in chronological order, it
>> would be only a so-so caper/thriller.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Kaleidoscope

2023-01-16 Thread Dave Sikula 
I totally agree with you about the rain, but the thing that kept my disbelief unsuspended was that no one lost power during the storm.— Dave SikulaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 5:08 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:I thought it was fine. But only really fine. The trouble is that I don't think the structure works. Theoretically you can watch the episodes in any order, with only the final episode being necessarily watched last.I watched them in the order that Netflix served them up, and frankly I don't think it worked. In TV today, flashbacks can mean some very lazy writing, but I think I'd have preferred a linear narrative with occasional flashbacks to this. Characters kept needing to be reintroduced or would just be missing. In particular, the episode set six months later really spoiled the final episode. I didn't get a sense of satisfaction that you usually take from a heist movie. The whole hurricane element seemed a bit contrived too. Suddenly they can break in utilising an unplannable phenomenon? What's more, the VFX budget ran out at that point and it just looked like a wet Wednesday in New York rather than storm of the century. The movie Hard Rain did the heist-during-a-storm thing much better.I still watched it all the way through, but then I'll always watch Rufus Sewell. And in general I liked the cast. But the whole thing could have been two episodes shorter and told in a regular format.AdamOn Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 12:17 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV  wrote:Anyone else in on this one? The wife and I finished it tonight and mostly liked it, though it did strike me that, minus the "Choose Your Own Adventure" gimmickry, it seemed like, if watched in chronological order, it would be only a so-so caper/thriller.--Dave Sikula



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Kaleidoscope

2023-01-16 Thread Adam Bowie 
I thought it was fine. But only really fine.

The trouble is that I don't think the structure works. Theoretically you
can watch the episodes in any order, with only the final episode being
necessarily watched last.

I watched them in the order that Netflix served them up, and frankly I
don't think it worked. In TV today, flashbacks can mean some very
lazy writing, but I think I'd have preferred a linear narrative with
occasional flashbacks to this. Characters kept needing to be reintroduced
or would just be missing. In particular, the episode set six months later
really spoiled the final episode. I didn't get a sense of satisfaction that
you usually take from a heist movie.

The whole hurricane element seemed a bit contrived too. Suddenly they can
break in utilising an unplannable phenomenon? What's more, the VFX budget
ran out at that point and it just looked like a wet Wednesday in New York
rather than storm of the century. The movie Hard Rain did the
heist-during-a-storm thing much better.

I still watched it all the way through, but then I'll always watch Rufus
Sewell. And in general I liked the cast.

But the whole thing could have been two episodes shorter and told in a
regular format.


Adam

On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 12:17 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Anyone else in on this one? The wife and I finished it tonight and mostly
> liked it, though it did strike me that, minus the "Choose Your Own
> Adventure" gimmickry, it seemed like, if watched in chronological order, it
> would be only a so-so caper/thriller.
>
> --Dave Sikula
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[TV orNotTV] Kaleidoscope

2023-01-16 Thread 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
Anyone else in on this one? The wife and I finished it tonight and mostly 
liked it, though it did strike me that, minus the "Choose Your Own 
Adventure" gimmickry, it seemed like, if watched in chronological order, it 
would be only a so-so caper/thriller.

--Dave Sikula

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